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Ben101er

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Ben101er

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A guy with a name Cal-4-Three posts and proceeds to tell the board that the 14th All Time winningest coach isn't a great coach. A coach that has one losing record on his resume. A coach in the Hall of Fame.

Great share, really it is. Brilliant of K to press when down 23. As for the zone...UL couldn't get past half court at most 3/4 court.

And when they did, they were so surprised they threw up any kind of shot. Clappy would have pressed if he were down 23 in the 2nd half, on the road. Is he a great coach?
 
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Ben101er

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This reminds me of those who insist on saying Cal loses every big game - then you figure out the only "big games" are the ones we lost. heh. UK vs Ohio State, UNC, Michigan, Wisconsin, Wichita State? etc? Not big games!

Yeah, I suppose he should have made adjustments for Higgins calling the game. What should that have been?
 
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Ben101er

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I'm sorry but if you are arguing that Coach K isnt a great coach you are too dumb to argue with. Sorry, The dude has 5 titles since 1980. Coach K is probably the best to ever do it. I appreciate the devils advocate though. I hate the guy and hate the dukies but you can't deny he is a great coach possibly the best.

Buying players over the years with the NCAA turning their head has sure contributed to that.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.
There are great examples of awful posters. Here is probably the best ever. 10 game win streak and nary a word. 2 point loss to a pretty good team and here comes the knuckle draggers. I feel sorry for folks that have to be around you on a daily basis.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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I'm sorry but if you are arguing that Coach K isnt a great coach you are too dumb to argue with. Sorry, The dude has 5 titles since 1980. Coach K is probably the best to ever do it. I appreciate the devils advocate though. I hate the guy and hate the dukies but you can't deny he is a great coach possibly the best.
What can't be denied is that you are a fraud. Folks like you are the biggest cowards there are. In complete hibernation until a loss.
 

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5 titles in 38 years. Sounds like he didn’t adjust 33 out of 38 years.

I’m not here to say anything anti UK or anti Coach Cal. Definitely not here to say anything complimentary about Duke or Coach K. But Cal won’t get close to 5 titles in his career. He’ll be lucky to get 2. That’s not a good road for us to go down. Let’s just keep supporting Cal and the team and hope we win another one. GBB.
 
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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.
If Coach K had watch tape of one of UofL games last week he would have noted the Cards guards are really poor ball handlers under pressure and turn over machines when pressed.
 

KYFOSSIL

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I'm sorry but if you are arguing that Coach K isnt a great coach you are too dumb to argue with. Sorry, The dude has 5 titles since 1980. Coach K is probably the best to ever do it. I appreciate the devils advocate though. I hate the guy and hate the dukies but you can't deny he is a great coach possibly the best.
So that was some pretty innovative strategy to get down by 23 in the first place so you could use that press and get the other team overconfident that was absolutely brilliant !
Also his incredible coaching abilities signed against both Lehigh and Mercer .
 
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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.

Cal is a great coach. There is no debate on that point. Cal makes many in flame adjustments, apparently ones you fail to see.

If you think Ratface is the only great coach then go root for Puke. You brought that on yourself.
 

catswin

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Coach K is so smart. He didn’t over exert his team one second. He knew the EXACT moment to change things up for Duke to be able to come back with 12 seconds remaining.

The other 31 minutes he was just playing possum.
 
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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.

So you’re saying cal wouldn’t press being down 23 late in the 2nd half? Cals one of the greatest ever and has won us many games with in game adjustments. It’s hard to make adjustments (in game) when your best player is on the bench in foul trouble.
 

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Cal is a great motivator. Great recruiter although he is losing a little lustre there lately. Offensively I think we could and should run more sets..Defensively we play man and we switch most everything...His stubbornness to go zone has cost us at least 2 championships and multiple other games including last night.
These post are my favorite, as if you know exactly how the game would have played out if we went zone. No chance we go zone and someone on the other team gets hot from 3 right? That never happens to Kentucky. I would love to see these alternate universe tapes of the 2 titles he cost us if you have them available.
 
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There are great examples of awful posters. Here is probably the best ever. 10 game win streak and nary a word. 2 point loss to a pretty good team and here comes the knuckle draggers. I feel sorry for folks that have to be around you on a daily basis.

I like the ones that talk like a Puke fan. Then in the next sentence get all teary eyed and tell people don’t call then a Puke fan
 

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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.
Coach k is just so stubborn. In the last few years, he's lost a 2 15 game, a 3 14, and had a double digits loss season with a roster that was supposed to be as talented as '15 UK according to every media outlet. He failed to win the championship back in 99 with 5 lottery picks including the number one.

No, I don't want to hear about his successes, because this here is emotional, stuffing bras in the middle school locker room, completely detached from reality talk.

Call is obviously not elite, because I can think of coaches who have fewer disappointing outcomes and more success than him - yes they are all either imaginary or top 10 coaches of all time, but that's just because I'm not thinking hard enough right now.
 

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Spot on in every way - I was going to make same post - its why Cal only has one title. That and his refusal to teach taking charges - a scoring inbounds play and crazy spur of the moment substitutions

Teach to take charges? You honestly believe cal forbids guy from taking charges? There’s no coaching taking a charge. You literally man up, protect your nuts and take the contact and hope the ref makes the right call.
 

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I’m not here to say anything anti UK or anti Coach Cal. Definitely not here to say anything complimentary about Duke or Coach K. But Cal won’t get close to 5 titles in his career. He’ll be lucky to get 2. That’s not a good road for us to go down. Let’s just keep supporting Cal and the team and hope we win another one. GBB.
That’s because Cal won’t be at UK 40 years like K will be at Duke. And K didn’t win a title his first ten years at Duke. You can’t expect Cal to get close to 5 titles in 15 or 20 years and give K double the time to get his.
 

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That’s because Cal won’t be at UK 40 years like K will be at Duke. And K didn’t win a title his first ten years at Duke. You can’t expect Cal to get close to 5 titles in 15 or 20 years and give K double the time to get his.

You’re right. As I said, I’m a Cat fan and I despise Duke. On top of that the game has changed quite a bit. But I’m not seeing Cal winning multiple titles before he leaves. He’s missed a few golden opportunities..... titles are hard and you need some luck to boot.
 

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These post are my favorite, as if you know exactly how the game would have played out if we went zone. No chance we go zone and someone on the other team gets hot from 3 right? That never happens to Kentucky. I would love to see these alternate universe tapes of the 2 titles he cost us if you have them available.

Exactly! If cal would of gave Wisconsin a little token pressure around the 8:30 mark they wouldn’t of stood a chance. Better yet if he had changed token pressure to a man press and had us falling back in a 3-2 it wouldn’t of even been a game.
 

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No but one of those years he was losing to Robert Morris in the NIT.

Yeah you are right. When Noel got hurt he should have quit on his team and put Kenny in charge for the rest of the year....and pinned the losses on Kenny.

Ya know, that's what real leaders do...kind of like K when he quit in '94-'95, knowing he had a lousy team and then had the audacity to pin the losses on his assistant...lol
 
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Yeah you are right. When Noel got hurt he should have quit on his team and put Kenny in charge for the rest of the year....and pinned the losses on Kenny.

Ya know, that's what real leaders do...kind of like K when he quit in '94-'95, knowing he had a lousy team and then had the audacity to pin the losses on his assistant...lol

You’re right, down one player UK should be in the NIT losing to Robert Morris. Cals a great coach. You cherry picked games to use against K. That works with Cal too.
 

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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.

A good press can completely rattle a team..Pitino showed that many times while at UK....Why dont coaches throw in a press here and there during a game to see if it works...I dont mean a token press but a full court press...many times is will make the other team fall apart..
 
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The difference between Coach Cal and becoming a great coach is what you saw in the Duke Louisville game last night. Duke was getting man handled and dominated until Coach K implemented the full/3/4 court zone. That threw everything UL was doing off badly. Probably the only thing that I can't stand about Cal is his refusal to make in game adjustments like this to disrupt the flow of the game for the other team. And save the "Well go root for duke etc" comments....I love my Cats, just like to see more from Cal on the in game adjustments to make it harder for other teams to prepare for us.

1) A HOF coach isn't a great coach? WOW!!!
2) Cal didn't need to full court press UL because we handled them easily.
 
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HagginHall1999

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You’re right, down one player UK should be in the NIT losing to Robert Morris. Cals a great coach. You cherry picked games to use against K. That works with Cal too.

Waah...go gargle K.

Nerlens was a double double guy averaging like 4-5 blocks a game. They were like 19-6 when he got hurt and unraveled after.

Not sure what that has to do with Lipscomb?
 
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HagginHall1999

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Totally agree! Cal is a recruiter. He wins on talent. Unfortunately Coach K (Penny is getting there) has now bypassed him at his main strength and I’m just not sure we will be much more than a sweet 16 maybe elite 8 if he can’t get back to being the recruiter he was.....let’s hope he does!

Yeah, because K's been getting bologna sandwiches all these years. Lol. He has been getting multiple McD AAs since the '80s.

There are plenty of mental health institutions in Ky. Look them up. Clueless.
 
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Please tell me the last time Cal implemented a 3/4 court pressure zone to disrupt the game....I'll wait. I love Cal and dont want anyone else. I'm just saying, if he adds flexibility to his coaching, the rest of the NCAA better watch out.

You've honestly never seen U.K. randomly pull out a full court or 3/4 court press during a game? Then you must not watch much.
 
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HagginHall1999

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No Coach K is both a great coach and has now started accepting OAD’s recently. He didn’t always do that before. He’s got the best of both worlds right now unfortunately.

NM. It is like talking to a wall. Go look at the recruits he has gotten over the past 30 years. If they were able to be one and done they would have been. Didn't used to be an option. He's been recruiting the same way forever.

You need to reconsider how you view it. He is recruiting a different kind of kid he used to not embrace.
 

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You’re right, down one player UK should be in the NIT losing to Robert Morris. Cals a great coach. You cherry picked games to use against K. That works with Cal too.
You cherry picked one season to use against Cal versus... his entire body of work.

Cal is way, way above UK historical averages for (per year) wins, tournament wins, final fours, and championships, and you have the gall to talk about cherry picking?
 
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Rats do not like to be zoned.
 

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Please tell me the last time Cal implemented a 3/4 court pressure zone to disrupt the game....I'll wait. I love Cal and dont want anyone else. I'm just saying, if he adds flexibility to his coaching, the rest of the NCAA better watch out.

Alabama this year. 1st cofrence game. We almost came back as well.
 

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Cal is his own man and requires no shoe companies nor espn nor any zebras to ensure his legacy

Those things are the byproduct of greatness. Organizations tend to latch onto and associate themselves with those that bring value. I guess Jordan needed those things to ensure his legacy? No.
 
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A good press can completely rattle a team..Pitino showed that many times while at UK....Why dont coaches throw in a press here and there during a game to see if it works...I dont mean a token press but a full court press...many times is will make the other team fall apart..

This is the whole point of my post. A GREAT coach will find little adjustments like that to make or atleast try. Not saying it will work 100% of the time etc but it seems Cal is just set in stone with his man to man defense and will use it even if we are getting killed. Love him to death and don't want anyone else because I believe he has the personality and likability that it takes to be the coach here. But man oh man is he stubborn lol