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So you really think the top 4 teams in your conference are that much better than the top 4 teams in Shelby’s conference? I’m not saying there not, just asking. I think we both agree after you get past the top 4 teams in either conference there is a huge drop off.

We play NG and FV, so I will give you an honest opinion if they are that much better than Cherryville and West Lincoln.
Most years NG is better than Cherryville but not as good as WL lately. Forestview’s records can be a little deceiving because they tend to over schedule themselves in non conference with much tougher programs. Forestview is better than most of the rest of your conference by a lot most years. FV usually have size and the lines and speed galore. NG is the only truly horrible team in the Big South. Huss in your conference would be a problem most years for the majority of your conference teams.
 
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Storm they are not going to listen to anything you say. I do have a question for the Gazette, how can Burn's schedule be 3 places higher than Shelby when we play the exact same schedule?
Because in Burns schedule they play you guys who finished with 13 wins versus you guys who play Burns who finished with 7 wins lol
 
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Stormsurge1

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Most years NG is better than Cherryville but not as good as WL lately. Forestview’s records can be a little deceiving because they tend to over schedule themselves in non conference with much tougher programs. Forestview is better than most of the rest of your conference by a lot most years. FV usually have size and the lines and speed galore. NG is the only truly horrible team in the Big South. Huss in your conference would be a problem most years for the majority of your conference teams.
Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
 

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What im hearing going get very hard to transfer in Cleveland Co..
They are getting ready to tighten screws on it
If Crest can't get transfers from other schools they can't win. When was the last time Crest won a title without getting transfers especially from Burns. Probably 1994 and 1996.
 
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Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
Don’t apologize or feel bad about supporting your team. You guys are doing some great things at Cramer and expectations have grown. Trust me it’s always good to have expectations. I am excited to see how the four teams in your conference shakes out. I look forward to seeing you guys at the Jamboree.
 

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Nope not the entire conference, just looking forward to the first two weeks of the season, maybe a few of the scrimmages involving the top 4 of the conferences before the regular season starts. Only way to take the opinions out of this.

I do always appreciate the insight you bring to the forum. Very thought out and always fact based.

I look forward to your retort speaking of previous years…..just FYI I am only talking about the upcoming year….
Scrimmages do not matter and anyone basing a result on that for a season is wasting time.
Based on this and your posts on your 8 man conference thread it looks like I’ve reserved a spot in your head rent free. Appreciate it.
 
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Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
Dude. You keep speaking your truth. You can’t take any of this personal.

Shelby Sucks !

Stuart Cramer is starting to care. Got great facilities and it seems like they got a coach.

Shelby Sucks!

If yall do it right. You can end South Point and that archaic red bone. SC has an opportunity to join the crowd if they do it right.

Shelby SUCKS!
 

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Storm they are not going to listen to anything you say. I do have a question for the Gazette, how can Burn's schedule be 3 places higher than Shelby when we play the exact same schedule?
Thought the same thing. Hell Burns isn’t even in the top 5 preseason in 4A. Maybe they know more than we do. 🤷‍♂️ It’s a little bit grey though. Our geniuses in the NCHASS or however it’s abbreviated decided that we only get two non conference games which makes us play Crest and KM naturally. Crest and KM actually get more non conference games. Playing Weddington and Catholic is automatically going to boost their schedule strength and rankings. Nobody mentioned that part. Crest, KM and SP will be very good but I think even Ashbrook falls off this year to go with the rest of that bottom tier. The difference this year is their tough non conference games.
 
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BurnsBulldog02

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Crest playing Asheville and KM playing Bandys will without a doubt boost their ranking above ours. Did I mention I hate having this conference laid out like that?