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So you really think the top 4 teams in your conference are that much better than the top 4 teams in Shelby’s conference? I’m not saying there not, just asking. I think we both agree after you get past the top 4 teams in either conference there is a huge drop off.

We play NG and FV, so I will give you an honest opinion if they are that much better than Cherryville and West Lincoln.
Most years NG is better than Cherryville but not as good as WL lately. Forestview’s records can be a little deceiving because they tend to over schedule themselves in non conference with much tougher programs. Forestview is better than most of the rest of your conference by a lot most years. FV usually have size and the lines and speed galore. NG is the only truly horrible team in the Big South. Huss in your conference would be a problem most years for the majority of your conference teams.
 
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Most years NG is better than Cherryville but not as good as WL lately. Forestview’s records can be a little deceiving because they tend to over schedule themselves in non conference with much tougher programs. Forestview is better than most of the rest of your conference by a lot most years. FV usually have size and the lines and speed galore. NG is the only truly horrible team in the Big South. Huss in your conference would be a problem most years for the majority of your conference teams.
Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
 

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What im hearing going get very hard to transfer in Cleveland Co..
They are getting ready to tighten screws on it
If Crest can't get transfers from other schools they can't win. When was the last time Crest won a title without getting transfers especially from Burns. Probably 1994 and 1996.
 
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Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
Don’t apologize or feel bad about supporting your team. You guys are doing some great things at Cramer and expectations have grown. Trust me it’s always good to have expectations. I am excited to see how the four teams in your conference shakes out. I look forward to seeing you guys at the Jamboree.
 
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Nope not the entire conference, just looking forward to the first two weeks of the season, maybe a few of the scrimmages involving the top 4 of the conferences before the regular season starts. Only way to take the opinions out of this.

I do always appreciate the insight you bring to the forum. Very thought out and always fact based.

I look forward to your retort speaking of previous years…..just FYI I am only talking about the upcoming year….
Scrimmages do not matter and anyone basing a result on that for a season is wasting time.
Based on this and your posts on your 8 man conference thread it looks like I’ve reserved a spot in your head rent free. Appreciate it.
 
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Just talking about this year but I agree with your assessment. We did 7 on 7 Huss and Ashbrook, get you guys in the Jamboree, and play FV and NG so we get to see 5 out of the 7 teams. Again I am not trying to say anything negative about the Big South, a lot of respect for those teams. I only was stating that this year in my opinion that the separation between the top 4 vs the top 4 of our conference will be a lot closer than last year. I only brought it up to get some discussion since I know our conference is very weak after the top 4 but so is everyone else so conference schedule can be misleading. We also have 2 more teams in the conference to bring down a strength of schedule instead of being able to schedule 2 more out of conference opponents.

However I do realize this thread is 90% Crest or Shelby banging on each other and I poked my nose in the discussion. Shame on me.
Dude. You keep speaking your truth. You can’t take any of this personal.

Shelby Sucks !

Stuart Cramer is starting to care. Got great facilities and it seems like they got a coach.

Shelby Sucks!

If yall do it right. You can end South Point and that archaic red bone. SC has an opportunity to join the crowd if they do it right.

Shelby SUCKS!
 

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Storm they are not going to listen to anything you say. I do have a question for the Gazette, how can Burn's schedule be 3 places higher than Shelby when we play the exact same schedule?
Thought the same thing. Hell Burns isn’t even in the top 5 preseason in 4A. Maybe they know more than we do. 🤷‍♂️ It’s a little bit grey though. Our geniuses in the NCHASS or however it’s abbreviated decided that we only get two non conference games which makes us play Crest and KM naturally. Crest and KM actually get more non conference games. Playing Weddington and Catholic is automatically going to boost their schedule strength and rankings. Nobody mentioned that part. Crest, KM and SP will be very good but I think even Ashbrook falls off this year to go with the rest of that bottom tier. The difference this year is their tough non conference games.
 

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Scrimmages do not matter and anyone basing a result on that for a season is wasting time.
Based on this and your posts on your 8 man conference thread it looks like I’ve reserved a spot in your head rent free. Appreciate it.
Hahaha…you give yourself way too much credit!!! Don’t go losing either one of those first 2 games or do!!!!
 

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Dude. You keep speaking your truth. You can’t take any of this personal.

Shelby Sucks !

Stuart Cramer is starting to care. Got great facilities and it seems like they got a coach.

Shelby Sucks!

If yall do it right. You can end South Point and that archaic red bone. SC has an opportunity to join the crowd if they do it right.

Shelby SUCKS!
Moving in the right direction and we definitely have the right coach!!!!
Rulz, Sausages try and get your boy Charger 02 on the same level you guys bring it. He tried to come to the 3A/4A thread got big timed and never came back. We miss him but he needs to possibly get some tutoring from you 2 before he returns.
 

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cowardlyWe do suck at times and that is the reason we only have 20 STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. Once again 20 STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Shelby is GAY.
Classic Movies Agree GIF
 
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Moving in the right direction and we definitely have the right coach!!!!
Rulz, Sausages try and get your boy Charger 02 on the same level you guys bring it. He tried to come to the 3A/4A thread got big timed and never came back. We miss him but he needs to possibly get some tutoring from you 2 before he returns.
This is the off season. I'll personally say anything to keep this crap stirred up right now.

We just saw an opportunity to rag on Shelby because they were 9th so we did.

Believe me, we know that Shelby is to deal with and Burns too, no cupcakes there. But how much fun is it if we just sing Kumbaya while holding hands. If we did that SHS Lion would want to kiss one of us in the mouth so since you are newly adopted amongst us, you're up to bat on that if we decide to go that direction.
 

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Moving in the right direction and we definitely have the right coach!!!!
Rulz, Sausages try and get your boy Charger 02 on the same level you guys bring it. He tried to come to the 3A/4A thread got big timed and never came back. We miss him but he needs to possibly get some tutoring from you 2 before he returns.
Can only beat up on the cripples so many times before feeling bad about it. Expected Shelby would feel the same way but they keep loading up on you guys.
 

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Moving in the right direction and we definitely have the right coach!!!!
Rulz, Sausages try and get your boy Charger 02 on the same level you guys bring it. He tried to come to the 3A/4A thread got big timed and never came back. We miss him but he needs to possibly get some tutoring from you 2 before he returns.
Ya'll have the right conference.... that coach's record would mirror McMillans within a game or two over a 3-4 year span if you were still playing in the Big South. Nothing against the new coach or the program...just absolute facts. The program will continue to sleepwalk to 8 or 9 wins every year playing 2 win teams and that conference schedule. That don't make you good. Schedule any non conf. team with a pulse if that new coach wants to prove anything in reality.... or at least stay within 14 points of Burns or Shelby at least once.
SC beat NG last year 34-27? Ya'll comparing Big South vs. that 2a-4a conference this year? Reefer madness.
 
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Ya'll have the right conference.... that coach's record would mirror McMillans within a game or two over a 3-4 year span if you were still playing in the Big South. Nothing against the new coach or the program...just absolute facts. The program will continue to sleepwalk to 8 or 9 wins every year playing 2 win teams and that conference schedule. That don't make you good. Schedule any non conf. team with a pulse if that new coach wants to prove anything in reality.... or at least stay within 14 points of Burns or Shelby at least once.
SC beat NG last year 34-27? Ya'll comparing Big South vs. that 2a-4a conference this year? Reefer madness.
Hey Deboer is back. Ok guys this has been a total success. My whole reason for getting on here yesterday and saying what I said was to get our guy Deboer back. Sorry Charger 02 but it is the truth. I wanted to read an exact post of something he posted 4-5 months ago and he didn’t disappoint. Glad to have you back my friend.

However you are totally wrong about the coaching comparisons. Also totally wrong about where Cramer would finish in the Big South this year. We will see how those games shake out against Burns and Shelby this year. Going to be tough. However at least you are giving them some credit this year, last year it was no credit to them either.

Also would give anything to play SP this year. Go ahead and bring up every other year (prior to the coaching change) where SP killed SC, but I’m talking about this year.
 
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Hey Deboer is back. Ok guys this has been a total success. My whole reason for getting on here yesterday and saying what I said was to get our guy Deboer back. Sorry Charger 02 but it is the truth. I wanted to read an exact post of something he posted 4-5 months ago and he didn’t disappoint. Glad to have you back my friend.

However you are totally wrong about the coaching comparisons. Also totally wrong about where Cramer would finish in the Big South this year. We will see how those games shake out against Burns and Shelby this year. Going to be tough. However at least you are giving them some credit this year, last year it was no credit to them either.

Also would give anything to play SP this year. Go ahead and bring up every other year (prior to the coaching change) where SP killed SC, but I’m talking about this year.
I would bet everything you and I both have that if your coach and AD called SP right now they would drop a team to schedule you.
Good luck this year. I DO hope ya'll find success. I just hope you play and beat legit teams and earn it. Nothing is better.

I would love to give them credit. Gotta earn it. It can't be hype and smokescreens. Go make a statement.
 
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I'd rather crap in my hands and clap vigorously than be in this conference we are in
LMAO - Not for nothing....but this (and what BurnsBulldog02 said) is what I'm talking about. Nobody ever gonna accuse CC football of cruising or looking for something unearned. They would throw their......uh...sticks... on the line every week. That is the most respectable thing about the county IMO regarding football.
 
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I would bet everything you and I both have that if your coach and AD called SP right now they would drop a team to schedule you.
Good luck this year. I DO hope ya'll find success. I just hope you play and beat legit teams and earn it. Nothing is better.

I would love to give them credit. Gotta earn it. It can't be hype and smokescreens. Go make a statement.
Probably so and I can’t speak for our AD but I am just saying I wish we could and I know for an absolute fact that several kids wish that too.
 
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Ya'll have the right conference.... that coach's record would mirror McMillans within a game or two over a 3-4 year span if you were still playing in the Big South. Nothing against the new coach or the program...just absolute facts. The program will continue to sleepwalk to 8 or 9 wins every year playing 2 win teams and that conference schedule. That don't make you good. Schedule any non conf. team with a pulse if that new coach wants to prove anything in reality.... or at least stay within 14 points of Burns or Shelby at least once.
SC beat NG last year 34-27? Ya'll comparing Big South vs. that 2a-4a conference this year? Reefer madness.
Reefer madness 😂