I highly doubt Frost fires Chinander, but I hope I’m wrong. I think Scott goes down with the ship....he’s too loyal to fire him even though Chins is truly awful.
Chinander's gotta go!
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Hope you're right, nut have my doubts. Why? Those statements about their schemes work, blah, blah, blah.....
My biggest issue is there was no adaptation to what Indiana was doing. They stayed in zone and got torched on the same crossing routes that linebackers had to try to cover. I mean they had nearly 400 yards passing but they still had 3 or 4 LBs in every play. If it isn't working, try something different.
Unless Frost is a better scam artist than Riley in saying how much he cares about the program, I think he'll put the program ahead of any assistants he has including Chinander.
The defense has lost a lot more games in the last 2 years than the offense. Chinander is the 2nd coming of Kevin Cosgrove.
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There isn't 1 defender that I'm sorry is leaving. D line has zero ability to get past a double or even single block. Even Mo Barry has been exposed this year.
I'm not disputing that. The problem is, if there was someone even close to being better than those guys, we would have at least seen a GLIMPSE of them at this point. I haven't. Maybe you have, but I haven't. That's not good.
Nope. I was all for Frost. And still believe he could lead us to great things. I think he will eventually get the offense rolling. But, it would require him moving on from some of his UCF buddies. And that’s probably a pie in the sky dream.
Frost is fine with a defense that gives up 38 points, because he expects to score 50+ points a game. That's the Chip Kelly/Oregon philosophy.
Unfortunately, we play in the Big Ten, not the AAC or Pac-12, so I'm not sure that is a smart strategy.
Unfortunately, we play in the Big Ten, not the AAC or Pac-12, so I'm not sure that is a smart strategy.
If Vedral doesn't absolutely kill us with that fumble and we go up 21-9, this thread doesn't get made.
Doesn’t get made until next week.
Chinander is not a Vedral fumble away from being a good defensive coordinator.
No, he's not. But that was the turning point in the game. All went downhill from there .
Agree and you could see all the momentum vanish with that fumble, it was like hear we go again, I noticed it in the body language
Hey man can’t believe we’re agreeing on a lot of things. You think if we start arguing about something the team will snap out of it?Winking
Iowa fan here- I come in peace- from where I sit- the D is better than last year- but the overall system SF plays doesn’t do any d coordinator any justice. Too many possessions.
Still think neb needs a Paul Chrystal type of system to get closer to where they want to be.
We have that losing mentality. First punch we take we’re doomed. The young guys (Wandale and McCaffrey) are ballers but our upperclass men are settling for that magical 6 win season (as of now it ain’t happening).
Naw ain’t worth the energy. Thumbs up to ya. Guess the team will have to sink then
It like a hitter in baseball that in a 0-30 slump in hitting, it really hard to get out of it
What's that? Having someone shadow the quarterback so he can't continually run for first downs? Have someone on defense who can prevent other teams from converting long second and third downs? I thought we had better talent on defense, but it's obvious that I was mistaken.
I have no clue how you can call this D aggressive. I guess if you say it enough it becomes true.
the aggressive scheme is to go after the ball.. to strip it, to try to get a turnover.. when you see the guy running down field and our defenders trying to strip the ball rather than tackle the player.. that is what I mean. They are taking big risks (no fear of failure thing) to try to get turnovers, and the result is, you get burned a lot and give up points, but the upside is, you should also get the ball a few extra times for your offense to score. Its all based on giving the offense more chances to go score quickly. The aggressive defense is not trying to limit the opponents score at all, but trying to get more opportunities for the offense.
I personally think it's a stupid scheme, but that is what it is.
Defenders are too slow...as in incredibly slow...overall
Not sure we have anyone on the D capable of shadowing and containing a QB
we’re not recruiting any top speed on the defensive side of the ball. That’s the part that troubles me.
As long Chinander is going......what is it exactly that Dewitt does?
You never hear is name on the recruiting trail, in fact our OLB recruiting is pretty laughable. And to top it off,our special teams are less than special. It’s a miracle if we make it thru a quarter without a special teams blunder.
You never hear is name on the recruiting trail, in fact our OLB recruiting is pretty laughable. And to top it off,our special teams are less than special. It’s a miracle if we make it thru a quarter without a special teams blunder.
I am not a Chinander fan, but we should cut him a bit of slack. Look at our Senior and Junior classes and ask yourself who on defense would play significant minutes for Ohio Stae, Penn State, Wisconsin or Michigan. The honest answer is NONE!!! WITH OUR RECRUITS THE PAST TWO YEARS AND THIS YEAR'S, IMPROVEMENT SHOULD SHOW UP IN 2 YEARS. IF NOT HE GONE!!!
Do the same when looking at Chinander....would Ohio St, Penn St, Wisconsin, Mich hire this guy?
But, we played Indiana yesterday. Not to be confused with Ohio St. I know people want to think so badly that it’s simply a talent issue but it’s not. And to top it off, our defensive recruiting this year is not great.