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I don’t see what Smith could say to Coleman that the Tennessee support system isn’t already. Looks as if Coleman is going through a full-blown mental health crisis.
Regardless of how things played out with him at PSU, I hate to think of any young man (or any person of any age) struggling with their mental health. I do hope things get better for him.

Can’t say I’m particularly hopeFUL for him in this regard, though, as I’ve never held the Vols and their program in any sort of esteem.
 

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It appears that the story that he got three mil from Tennessee is actually true. Believe it or not, they do not have a GM, which is kind of shocking for an SEC team. This is exactly why you just don’t throw huge amounts of money at potential. Coleman is potential and nothing more at this point, a super athlete playing football who made a few amazing plays and otherwise got pushed around.
 
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It appears that the story that he got three mil from Tennessee is actually true. Believe it or not, they do not have a GM, which is kind of shocking for an SEC team. This is exactly why you just don’t throw huge amounts of money at potential. Coleman is potential and nothing more at this point, a super athlete playing football who made a few amazing plays and otherwise got pushed around.
"total value"--none of these guys are getting close to the "value" of the deals
 

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I missed it I guess. What did he say/do? Link? Otherwise it's just talk
Not sure if this is what the poster is referencing, but the news coming out of Vols land is that they paid him a ton of money and he has to show up for any offseason stuff and they aren’t sure he’ll even be with the program much longer.
 

mh-larch

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They pay the entire amount of the deal upfront? Wow.....huge mistake. Talk about a quick way to undermine motivation. You see it with pros after they get their big deals too. Can they claw any of it back if he leaves?
 

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Link: Coleman Update

“Chaz has been dealing with some things, and we’re here to support him,” said Vols head coach Josh Heupel to On3 this past week at the SEC league meetings. “We’ll continue to go through that process.”

Price also reported this week that Tennessee reworked Coleman’s NIL deal, so he’s yet to receive the bulk of his money from the Vols (which protects UT financially against Coleman leaving the program).

The money part is important for Tennessee, but I think most fans are more concerned with whether Coleman is going to be rushing the quarterback while wearing orange and white this fall. Coleman, who played under new Vols defensive coordinator Jim Knowles last season, is supposed to be a big part of Tennessee’s defense in 2026. The Vols have some quality options who can step up if Coleman isn’t part of the team, but Tennessee would obviously love to have the upside of the Penn State transfer on the field (there’s a reason UT aggressively pursued Coleman in the transfer portal).
 
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This is the same player that quit on his team last season, blatantly talked to the Ohio State staff after the game last year, got manhandled by Rutgers, and has not proven that he can be in every day player in this conference. No thank you.
Let’s face it. He’s an Ohio kid and apparently the best run program in the country, which is in his home state, obviously didn’t believe that he could contribute for them, or else he’d be wearing Scarlet and Grey. That tells me a lot about him.
 
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KingLando

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Let’s face it. He’s an Ohio kid and apparently the best run program in the country, which is in his home state, obviously didn’t believe that he could contribute for them, or else he’d be wearing Scarlet and Grey. That tells me a lot about him.
Or Ohio State didn't make the promises others did
There's no doubt the kid has talent--if he was still here some (not you) would be stating he was the next Abdul Carter and would be a top 5 pick
 
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Or Ohio State didn't make the promises others did
There's no doubt the kid has talent--if he was still here some (not you) would be stating he was the next Abdul Carter and would be a top 5 pick
I’d only do that if I saw him make the plays against Big 10 competition that he made against the overmatched non-conference opponents in 2025, which we never saw for several reasons.

Don’t get me wrong; I think that he could’ve developed into a productive Big 10 d-end. However, he had one and a half feet out of the door after the non-conference games last season. IMO, he largely quit on PSU.
 
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It appears that he is a head case. He comes from a town that has produced a lot of Div I and NFL talent, but O$U didn’t seem that interested with all their connections to this town (trust me I know because I grew up there). That is all you need to know about him. He probably will never amount to much in CFB unless he gets his head screwed on straight and I’m not sure that’s going to happen.
 
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LMTLION

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Let’s face it. He’s an Ohio kid and apparently the best run program in the country, which is in his home state, obviously didn’t believe that he could contribute for them, or else he’d be wearing Scarlet and Grey. That tells me a lot about him.
They did want him in the portal and all signs pointed that direction, but Tenn came in with that ridiculous $ that not even the Buckeyes could come close to matching. Knowles is taking the heat for this down there. In fact, it would appear that he took the wrong de. Kemajou has elite athleticism but size to play the run and a better body of work last season.
 

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They did want him in the portal and all signs pointed that direction, but Tenn came in with that ridiculous $ that not even the Buckeyes could come close to matching. Knowles is taking the heat for this down there. In fact, it would appear that he took the wrong de. Kemajou has elite athleticism but size to play the run and a better body of work last season.
Then it’s shocking that OSU, which seemingly is run by a sovereign wealth fund, couldn’t outspend Tennessee for a player they really wanted. If they really wanted him, they would’ve found a way. I mean, OSU probably has a payroll that exceeds several NFL teams; what’s another million or three to them?
 
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LMTLION

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Then it’s shocking that OSU, which seemingly is run by a sovereign wealth fund, couldn’t outspend Tennessee for a player they really wanted. If they really wanted him, they would’ve found a way. I mean, OSU probably has a payroll that exceeds several NFL teams.
Even OSU has a system that they adhere to, believe it or not.
 

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Then it’s shocking that OSU, which seemingly is run by a sovereign wealth fund, couldn’t outspend Tennessee for a player they really wanted. If they really wanted him, they would’ve found a way. I mean, OSU probably has a payroll that exceeds several NFL teams; what’s another million or three to them?
lol at a payroll higher than NFL teams
 
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KingLando

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I don’t know anything about the details of these deals. Can you explain in basic terms?
Good question. For example, Beau's deal included tickets to games for family and friends, they would cover their flights to the game, tickets to other sporting events and events (like concerts), his furnished apartment was covered, they get clothes and other items gifted to the program, he's loaned a vehicle (or given one but i believe Beau was a loan iirc)...they are not getting a check for the amount people claim.
So programs can claim X has so much value but does it really...
 
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Good question. For example, Beau's deal included tickets to games family and friends, they would cover their flights to the game, tickets to other sporting events and events (like concerts), his furnished apartment was covered, they get clothes and other items gifted to the program, he's loaned a vehicle (or given one but i believe Beau was a loan iirc)...they are not getting a check for the amount people claim.
So programs can claim X has so much value but does it really...
Thanks
 

BCS PSU

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The NFL salary cap is way more than 30 to 50 million. It’s about 300 million per year. Josh Allen will make around 50 million in 2026. Ohio State can’t sniff that money.
I obviously was speaking in hyperbole. But it can’t be argued that several college players, and especially QBs, make more per season than they would make on their initial NFL rookie contracts. Also, I stand by my statement that if OSU really wanted this player, they would’ve found a way to get him; there’s a reason why he ended up at Tennessee.
 

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I obviously was speaking in hyperbole. But it can’t be argued that several college players, and especially QBs, make more per season than they would make on their initial NFL rookie contracts. Also, I stand by my statement that if OSU really wanted this player, they would’ve found a way to get him; there’s a reason why he ended up at Tennessee.
Because they have more value to their college team than they do in the NFL.
If we really wanted him we'd have found a way to keep him then using your logic which is flawed. Ohio State couldn't promise the playing time Tennessee could.
It's not all about money. Most leave due to scheme, coaching, playing time, contend or simply level up. Money is merely a factor.