Bush (1) came to my high school way back. Secret service guys had no sense of humor and we pretty much were on lockdown for the duration. I thought I was going to have to pee out of a window, but I might have gotten my pecker shot off, if they had a marksman equivalent to Carlos Hathcock to see and hit the thing...
Yes but it would have been very close if only college graduates voted, and if you count only those affluent enough to also attend college football games, I question whether he wins at all.
That stadium, in a downtown area, I can't imagine the normal mess being anything less than crazy.
Wild thought here- Championship winning sports teams visiting the WH really shouldnt be a thing. And only some Championship teams being invited helps highlight how obviously unnecessary it is for any teams to be invited.
That's fine and I don't disagree......but the underlying issue is that at any given moment, half the country does not respect the presidency. That's a problem that we can ignore all we want to, but it's serious.
You're kind of burying your head in the sand here. So many of us have memory holed the way Trump behaved in the entire 10 weeks following his loss in November 2020 (including but certainly not limited to 1/6/2021), trying everything he could to steal the office from the American people.
In before the lock. Gas is still way cheaper here than when child sniffer pedo joe was president.
“It’s the best game it really is. It wasn’t before I got there, but I made it the best. Better than all the little games played in the blue states. They play girls games. With their boys. I said “we’re not gonna do that”. No we play the best games, that’s why I’m here.”
I’ll happily send you my diesel bill for the last year and you can help pay for it.
Respecting the office and respecting the person holding it are not the same thing. The foundation of American democracy is built on the idea that dissent, protest, and the right to decline are not just tolerated but they're protected. A lifetime ban for exercising a personal choice (that's not illegal or unethical) is quite literally the opposite of the freedom the office is supposed to represent. Sounds like what you're describing is compelled loyalty wearing patriotism as its Halloween costume.
I'm not talking about just Trump. Plenty on the right did the same, but in my experience, the left has much more of the straight 'disrespect the country' mantra.
It's bigger than one person. You can love the country and not love the person.
Not so sure about that. He was generally well received in Tuscaloosa, and there's not a lot of difference in them and the Tennessee fans. If I had tickets, I think I'd just stay home and watch on television tho. Not worth the hassle.
I don't think it is here. Regular $4.20, diesel $6.40 just a couple days ago. I paid $4.50 for premium at Costco a week ago before prices went up even more.
One demographic you're completely ignoring here. One group voted overwhelmingly for Trump and makes up the large majority of college football attendance. Not to mention, the congressional district Knoxville is in went more like 75% Trump in 2024. A conservative estimate would be 65% of the fans in the stadium who voted, voted for Trump.
My farming nephew said he’s having the best corn and cotton crop he’s had in a decade. Rain hit him perfectly. Peanuts are there but are a different story, ground is too dry and hard to get them out. Diesel prices are going to eat every cent of profit and then some.
Assuming you're talking about racial voting pattern differences, I'm not sure that the stadium is going to be much whiter than general population of Tennessee, but if it is, then that's a fair counterpoint.
Completely disagree. They are absolutely free to not come and exercise their right to choose. But they aren't free from the consequences of that choice. To behave as if the leader isn't "really" the leader because he or she isn't from your team is to undermine the office, the majority of voters that installed that person, and democracy itself. If you'll only pay respect to the leaders you agree with you don't believe in democracy, you believe in yourself as arbiter of right and wrong.
You're mixing up social consequences with government punishment. No one said the president isn't the leader...the point is that respecting the office doesn't require compelled loyalty to the person in it. Democracy protects the right to decline without state retaliation. Funny how fast 'respect the office’ turns into ‘show loyalty or face punishment.’ That's not democracy....sounds more like the Empire. Mon Mothma gave a great speech in the senate one time arguing precisley this point.
Sounds like your biggest beef is with President Trump himself, whose actions between November 2020 and January 2021 were the largest disrespect to the decision of the people in all of American history. No loser of a presidential election (not Carter, not the first Bush, not Hoover, etc.) has ever gone to such great lengths to overturn (steal) an election.
Well this is false because Trump ended the Russian invasion of Ukraine before he even took office. He also ended it on his first day in office.
I dont know of any event that I'd spend that much just for a ticket to attend.$376 for a ticket to a 4th week matchup is insane.
$476, or whatever the cheapest was before he announced he would attend, is even more insane.
Everyone gets to spend their money how they like...this just seems like it will lead to a lot of people feeling like it wasnt money well spent in the end.
And that doesnt even take into account the potential hassle of navigating around a POTUS visit.
K for sure.
Come on, man, those numbers are fake for 2024:View attachment 1452952
Nothing to see here. Just a vegetable wiping the floor with every presidential candidate in memory. And then, 4 years later, those 17 million voters...
Lame. Weak as 17.
It's already a huge pain in the *** to get to a stadium that is only accessible by road from north, south, and west, and then you go add a president to it. Geez.And people are really pi$$ed
Ticket prices drop as Trump plans to attend Tennessee vs Texas football
Tennessee vs. Texas football tickets are dropping in price even as President Trump plans to attend. See start time, prices and details.www.usatoday.com
Got some friends in Knoxville and they had their day planned out and this has blown their plans up . Not happy .
This is such a shít excuse for being wrong.
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