Changes You Would Make to the College Game...

MWes11

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Apr 22, 2012
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I ask this because I know this is a resolutions oriented board. I think we can all agree that the officiating is getting worse and worse. There has to be some sort of happy medium between the freedom of movement that has been implemented in today's game, and the physical nature of how the game used to be played. Blowing the whistle every time down the damn court has become unbearable on the players and the overall watch-ability for the fans. I am not sure if they have a mandatory seminar or convention during each off-season that the refs attend, but if they don't, they should. After each season, each coach should vote on the 3 best/3 worst officials of the year. 3 best get a pay raise, 3 worst get perma-ban for a year or give half their salary back. Something needs to be done. I'm looking at you TV Teddy.

- Go to four 10 minute quarters.
- Go to 6 fouls/player. People pay to see the best players and stars play. We don't want to see them parked on the bench because they pick up 2 quick ones in the first half.
- Shortening the shot clock has made the game better, imo.
- A clear flop/trying to trick the official should be assessed a flagrant 1 with 2 shots and the ball back. We can call it the Dook Rule.
- If a team makes three consecutive buckets and gets three consecutive defensive stops, give them a ball that is on fire that they can't miss with.

How would you improve the game? Any other ideas?
 

BlueBomb

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I'd have to think about it a little bit, but I'm certainly digging your Dook Rule. Gimme some of that for sure!
 

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
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Remove Coach K from the game, restore basketball back to an even playing field for the other ~350 teams.

After that, anything that makes it closer to the NBA game.. 3pt line, shot clock. Not sure why you should play the game one way and then another way at the next level. Make it the same.. these guys are 6'7" and can run the coast to coast in 1.2 seconds.. no reason it can't be the same as NBA rules.
 

mebeblue2

Heisman
Dec 20, 2009
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I ask this because I know this is a resolutions oriented board. I think we can all agree that the officiating is getting worse and worse. There has to be some sort of happy medium between the freedom of movement that has been implemented in today's game, and the physical nature of how the game used to be played. Blowing the whistle every time down the damn court has become unbearable on the players and the overall watch-ability for the fans. I am not sure if they have a mandatory seminar or convention during each off-season that the refs attend, but if they don't, they should. After each season, each coach should vote on the 3 best/3 worst officials of the year. 3 best get a pay raise, 3 worst get perma-ban for a year or give half their salary back. Something needs to be done. I'm looking at you TV Teddy.

- Go to four 10 minute quarters.
- Go to 6 fouls/player. People pay to see the best players and stars play. We don't want to see them parked on the bench because they pick up 2 quick ones in the first half.
- Shortening the shot clock has made the game better, imo.
- A clear flop/trying to trick the official should be assessed a flagrant 1 with 2 shots and the ball back. We can call it the Dook Rule.
- If a team makes three consecutive buckets and gets three consecutive defensive stops, give them a ball that is on fire that they can't miss with.

How would you improve the game? Any other ideas?

i do not want 4 10 minute quarters
i do not want 6 fouls, as it is both the NBA and CBB average the same amount of fouls per minute

i agree with everything else
 

WitnessGreatness

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i do not want 4 10 minute quarters
i do not want 6 fouls, as it is both the NBA and CBB average the same amount of fouls per minute

i agree with everything else
Why don't you want quarters? Once a team hits 4 fouls in a quarter, the other team shoots 2 free throws.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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The flopping thing...gimme that. Not sure how duke would play offense or defense though. I would like that.
 

AGEE11

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  1. Make the officials employees of the NCAA. No more of this contractor junk. You work for the NCAA and are assigned games. Then the NCAA and conferences can reprimand, punish, and fire the bad.
  2. 4 officials per game (3 on the court at a time) with a supervisor either in person or watching from a center of operations type location. TV Teddy gets out of hand, have him sit and put the 4th official in. Doug Shows-off trying to make it about him, sit him down for a while. When the announcers start calling that the official has been replaced, the embarrassment should have them clean their act up.
  3. Punish floppers! Like the NBA did to eliminate what Divac used to do against Shaq. First time is a warning, second they are suspend for the first half of the next game. Have it keep getting worse after that.
 

AGEE11

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I ask this because I know this is a resolutions oriented board. I think we can all agree that the officiating is getting worse and worse. There has to be some sort of happy medium between the freedom of movement that has been implemented in today's game, and the physical nature of how the game used to be played. Blowing the whistle every time down the damn court has become unbearable on the players and the overall watch-ability for the fans. I am not sure if they have a mandatory seminar or convention during each off-season that the refs attend, but if they don't, they should. After each season, each coach should vote on the 3 best/3 worst officials of the year. 3 best get a pay raise, 3 worst get perma-ban for a year or give half their salary back. Something needs to be done. I'm looking at you TV Teddy.

- Go to four 10 minute quarters.
- Go to 6 fouls/player. People pay to see the best players and stars play. We don't want to see them parked on the bench because they pick up 2 quick ones in the first half.
- Shortening the shot clock has made the game better, imo.
- A clear flop/trying to trick the official should be assessed a flagrant 1 with 2 shots and the ball back. We can call it the Dook Rule.
- If a team makes three consecutive buckets and gets three consecutive defensive stops, give them a ball that is on fire that they can't miss with.

How would you improve the game? Any other ideas?

If we use the on fire ball idea, I say we have LED projectors to spotlight certain 'Hot Spots' on the court worth more points each time.

BOOMSHAKALAKA
 

UKUGA

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Jan 26, 2007
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I still like the idea of going back to 2 refs. It reduces the number of incompetent people on the court.
 
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I am ok w/ going to quarters, but don't see the benefit other than having 2 more exciting times the clock runs to 0.0.

I see no benefit to going to 6 fouls. I also don't pay to see a hacking contest. Play by the rules and don't foul if you want to stay on the court. If players were given 6 fouls, they would just foul more because they could and we would have more games like last night (yuck). Players just need to adjust how they play. Also in most cases it is a stupid coaching practice to bench a player for the remainder of the first half with 2 fouls. They are not maximizing the number of minutes that player gets. I can see after the 2nd 1st half foul benching them to get a breather and remind them to not get another cheap foul. But then get them back in there. I would rather have 30 minutes from my star player (but he misses the last 4), and 20 minutes (but he plays the last 4).

I agree shortening the shot clock has improved it, but I wouldn't shorten it any more.

I also agree we need the Duke (anti-flopping) rule.

I think I might extend the 3pt line out. It just doesn't seem right that such an easy shot is worth 50% more.

I would ban the jump-step (or is it jump-stop). If your feet land at the same time it is ok, but if one comes down before the other then it's a travel. WTF!

A lot of what I want to see, is just enforcement of current rules. Much of which would stop players from pushing off with their free arm (is getting called more), and hooking (rarely called).
 
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Remove Coach K from the game, restore basketball back to an even playing field for the other ~350 teams.

After that, anything that makes it closer to the NBA game.. 3pt line, shot clock. Not sure why you should play the game one way and then another way at the next level. Make it the same.. these guys are 6'7" and can run the coast to coast in 1.2 seconds.. no reason it can't be the same as NBA rules.

Because the NBA game sucks. Ok, maybe that is an exageration, but the college game is better to watch than the NBA (except the NBA has better athletes).
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Because the NBA game sucks. Ok, maybe that is an exageration, but the college game is better to watch than the NBA (except the NBA has better athletes).

I just think it's a better service to college players. Makes the transition easier, probably helps scouting too. But maybe you have a point. More teams are like Vermont, than they are like Kentucky, a team full of NBA players anyways. Maybe you need to separate Church and State..

So I guess.. just throw Coach K off a bridge? That's about all I have..
 

MacCard

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  1. Make the officials employees of the NCAA. No more of this contractor junk. You work for the NCAA and are assigned games. Then the NCAA and conferences can reprimand, punish, and fire the bad.
  2. 4 officials per game (3 on the court at a time) with a supervisor either in person or watching from a center of operations type location. TV Teddy gets out of hand, have him sit and put the 4th official in. Doug Shows-off trying to make it about him, sit him down for a while. When the announcers start calling that the official has been replaced, the embarrassment should have them clean their act up.
  3. Punish floppers! Like the NBA did to eliminate what Divac used to do against Shaq. First time is a warning, second they are suspend for the first half of the next game. Have it keep getting worse after that.

I agree that officials should be employees of either the NCAA or the conferences.

However, I don't agree at all with 4 officials per game. In fact, I would go the other way and go back to 2 officials per game. However, I'd have the duos work together almost all the time, so they can become a unified crew instead of the mish-mash of official crews we have now. Having dedicated partners can only help the officials work together better. I also think with 3 officials, they almost see too much, and feel the need to get in their share of calls. With replay as ingrained as it is now, the risk of "missing" a crucial play down the stretch due to having only 2 officials is greatly diminished.
 
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Ugoff

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May 7, 2009
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I would cut the referees down to 2 and make them full time and available for questions after the games.

Also like the dook rule. If you've faked an injury, stopping play to cause a monitor review, and there's been no contact, you should get a flagrant 1. There has to be some jeopardy for pulling that crap.

Quarters: If they cut the timeouts to under 5's in each 10 minute quarter I could get on board with it.

Hanging on the rim - chin ups, knees around the rim etc should be a T, but put in a provision to allow a player to right himself before letting go of the rim to avoid injury. Call it consistently.

Grabbing the ball after a made basket should be more strictly monitored. I see players do this all the time. They "accidentally" kick the ball, grab it and put it down etc. to slow down fast break opportunities.

Fouls: This is a toughy. I think it's far too easy for a crooked ref to whistle cheap fouls sending a player to the bench. Maybe make the 6th and subsequent foul 2 shots and the ball.
 

H00SIER-Cat

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On free throw fouls, give the team the option of the ball out of bounds instead.

Otherwise, one free throw.
Fouled on a three attempt 1 free throw worth 3 pts.
1 and 1's and 2 shot fouls become 1 free throw worth 2.
The "and one" fouls become 1 free throw worth 1.
 

OldSmoky

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1. go to 4 quarters 10 minutes each.
2. if there is a tie up go to a jump ball. this alternate possession is bull crap. this is the only fair way to atleast give the defensive team some type of reward for it's effort.
3. move 3pt line back to what the nba now uses.
4. call a t or atleast a personal foul for flopping and faking getting hit in the face. this would stop a lot of players from trying to cheat their way to getting to the free throw line and having needless fouls called when they don't happen.
after these 4 I can't think of anything else that would improve the game in my opinion
 

DelkBowl

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Oct 4, 2015
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Only 4 things since I won't get into the refs.
1. Eliminate the jump ball. Always give the tie up to the defense. They earned it.
2. Play through kicked balls. Legal play and no reason to stop. If it bounces off your face, tough luck.
3. International rules on goal tending. Elevate a little more of the ref's judgment call.
4. Ban ul from having a team forever.
 

WitnessGreatness

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Only 4 things since I won't get into the refs.
1. Eliminate the jump ball. Always give the tie up to the defense. They earned it.
2. Play through kicked balls. Legal play and no reason to stop. If it bounces off your face, tough luck.
3. International rules on goal tending. Elevate a little more of the ref's judgment call.
4. Ban ul from having a team forever.
Why did the defense earn the jump ball? They didn't get the ball any more than the offense did. If anything I would get rid of possession arrow and do an actual jump ball
 

fatguy87

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Only 4 things since I won't get into the refs.
1. Eliminate the jump ball. Always give the tie up to the defense. They earned it.

Uhhh...that can go both ways. The offense can make hustle plays that result in tie ups too.

In fact, the alternating possession arrow is probably the most fair way and efficient way to do it. It doesn't stop the game for a jump ball and ensures that a 50/50 possession is 50/50.
 

fatguy87

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Hanging on the rim - chin ups, knees around the rim etc should be a T, but put in a provision to allow a player to right himself before letting go of the rim to avoid injury. Call it consistently.

Remove all ambiguity and remove the hanging on the rim technical.

If the player wants to show boat on the rim and defend a man down in transition, that's their prerogative.
 
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SemperFiCat

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-Six fouls is a terrible idea. Terrible. Every game would be like our last few. Very slow. Part of being a good all around player, or good defensive team, is being able to play without fouling.

-a tied ball should go to the Def.

-maybe one less timeout per half
 

Myotis

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Change the "alternating possession" to a "half steal". Works like this. On a held ball, the defensive team is awarded a "half steal". Every two "half steals" by the same team awards the defensive team the ball out on the opponents baseline.

Example:
Team B has possession, is tied up by A, A is awarded a half steal, B gets the ball out on their own sideline. (A has a half steal, B has none)
Team A has possession, is tied up by B, B is awarded a half steal, A gets the ball out on their own sideline. (Both have a half steal)
Team B has possession, is tied up by A, A is awarded a half steal, A gets the ball out on B's baseline. (A has two half steals and takes possession from B, who still has their own half steal)
Team B has possession, is tied up by A, A is awarded a half steal, B gest the ball out on their own sideline.(Again both have a half steal)
Team B has possession, is tied up by A, A is awarded a half steal, A gets the ball out on B's baseline. (A has two half steals and takes possession from B, who still has their own half steal)
Team A has possession, is tied up by B, B is awarded a half steal, B gets the ball out on A's baseline. (B has two half steals, takes possession from A, now neither has a half steal and both most tie up the other team twice to take possession)

Notice that team "A" took over possession from "B" two straight times which cannot happen with the "alternating possession rule". Which rewards team "A" who is causing the most tie-ups.

May sound more compliated that it really is. All it requires is a half-steal indicator on the scoreboard for each team. It's more fair than a jump ball, and less arbitrary than the current alternating possession. And it actually fits what happens on the floor. After all, a tie up is not as effective as an outright steal, but but deserves something more than just stopping the play. This way,every other time you tie up a team, it's a change of possession - effectively a "steal".
 

UK_fan_41102

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Use a penalty box like hockey so much time per foul . Full pads eliminate the walk and charge calls and no fouls called in the paint . Loser has to walk home .

Then we could implement hockey's tripping penalty for Duke.
 

DelkBowl

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Why did the defense earn the jump ball? They didn't get the ball any more than the offense did. If anything I would get rid of possession arrow and do an actual jump ball
They tied the ball up. That's good defense. It wasn't good offense to let the defensive player tie you up. Pretty simple.
 
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DelkBowl

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Uhhh...that can go both ways. The offense can make hustle plays that result in tie ups too.

In fact, the alternating possession arrow is probably the most fair way and efficient way to do it. It doesn't stop the game for a jump ball and ensures that a 50/50 possession is 50/50.
The offense does nothing good to get a tie up. Coach to his players "hey guys, let's get in there and let the defense get their hands on the ball so we can get a tie up". Well, maybe Clappy would but I just don't see Cal going for your strategy. It's a hard thing defensively to do. Reward them.
 

WildMoon

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Apr 7, 2009
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4 quarter 12 minutes (6 fouls)

1 FT shots instead of 2 or 3

Tech should be given to instigator not double technical for protecting

no silly tech like hanging on the rim

Goal tending rule similar to International rule

1 Timeouts in last 2 minutes

start season earlier

let summer time have exhibition game (not every 4 year rule ****), maximum 1 game per week.

Flopping = tech (and should be monitored carefully, without stopping the game, unless it's the last 2 minutes of the game)

DI sports should count towards some credit...instead of taking those unnecessary ******* classes we always have to take outside of our major.

(All kinds of **** for refs..)

These are some...pretty sure theres more.
 

wkycat1

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Mar 10, 2015
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I ask this because I know this is a resolutions oriented board. I think we can all agree that the officiating is getting worse and worse. There has to be some sort of happy medium between the freedom of movement that has been implemented in today's game, and the physical nature of how the game used to be played. Blowing the whistle every time down the damn court has become unbearable on the players and the overall watch-ability for the fans. I am not sure if they have a mandatory seminar or convention during each off-season that the refs attend, but if they don't, they should. After each season, each coach should vote on the 3 best/3 worst officials of the year. 3 best get a pay raise, 3 worst get perma-ban for a year or give half their salary back. Something needs to be done. I'm looking at you TV Teddy.

- Go to four 10 minute quarters.
- Go to 6 fouls/player. People pay to see the best players and stars play. We don't want to see them parked on the bench because they pick up 2 quick ones in the first half.
- Shortening the shot clock has made the game better, imo.
- A clear flop/trying to trick the official should be assessed a flagrant 1 with 2 shots and the ball back. We can call it the Dook Rule.
- If a team makes three consecutive buckets and gets three consecutive defensive stops, give them a ball that is on fire that they can't miss with.

How would you improve the game? Any other ideas?
 

wkycat1

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Mar 10, 2015
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6 fouls.... Then make the referees available, just like players and coaches, to the media afterwards.
 
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