***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

[AFM22]

What im saying is that the automatic choice for Aja needs to be scrutinized. Why Aja over Cc?

Prob bc when Aja had Clark 1 on 1 with the game on the line, Aja came out looking like gold and Clark did not.

 

[Natchrlman2]

I hope she had wonderful time

She sure did!

 

[WDSMHawk]

I don't think CC has ever made a shot after breaking her opponents ankles. Not MVP worthy based on that alone (sarcam)

 

[IowaCityLit]

Prob bc when Aja had Clark 1 on 1 with the game on the line, Aja came out looking like gold and Clark did not.

What?

Are you being serious?

The more I look at it the more
I think CC as MVP is more than justified.

 

[AFM22]

What?

Are you being serious?

The more I look at it the more
I think CC as MVP is more than justified.

You watched that sequence and came out of it thinking Clark was better than A’ja?

 

[Bro D]

Imagine thinking at any point in time that CC isn't a top 10 player in this league. I laugh

 

[AFM22]

Imagine thinking at any point in time that CC isn't a top 10 player in this league. I laugh

Imagine crowning someone Queen of the WNBA when they were fresh off a season ending injury and shooting 35%.

look, I like Clark. I watch all her games. I just think some of y’all over glaze her and then get all sensitive when people don’t fall in line and agree.

Her first month was Top 10-15 player-worthy. Maybe 5-10 at best. But saying she was top 3 in her first month is just over the top.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Prob bc when Aja had Clark 1 on 1 with the game on the line, Aja came out looking like gold and Clark did not.

Good thing MVP isn't based on 1-on-1 matchups.

I think everyone's vote should be strictly based on the following... If you were building your WNBA championship team THIS year, who would you pick first? Not who would win 1-on-1, not the best player on the best team, not who you'd build your franchise around for the next decade...

Not saying that makes Caitlin a LOCK over Aja, but it's gotta be one of those two.

KM is playing really well and the two of them are really clicking, but would anyone pick KM #1 to build that championship team?

 

[The Big Z]

I miss the days when people said the Fever would be better without Mitchell.

Or would pass more.

 

[AFM22]

Good thing MVP isn't based on 1-on-1 matchups.

I think everyone's vote should be strictly based on the following... If you were building your WNBA championship team THIS year, who would you pick first? Not who would win 1-on-1, not the best player on the best team, not who you'd build your franchise around for the next decade...

Not saying that makes Caitlin a LOCK over Aja, but it's gotta be one of those two.

KM is playing really well and the two of them are really clicking, but would anyone pick KM #1 to build that championship team?

So we would rather base votes off hypotheticals than something that has happened in reality?

A’ja has better stats, and A’ja shut her down with a crucial game on the line.

 

[Bro D]

Imagine crowning someone Queen of the WNBA when they were fresh off a season ending injury and shooting 35%.

look, I like Clark. I watch all her games. I just think some of y’all over glaze her and then get all sensitive when people don’t fall in line and agree.

Her first month was Top 10-15 player-worthy. Maybe 5-10 at best. But saying she was top 3 in her first month is just over the top.

Sounds like you're the one who is getting all sensitive there sandy

Breaking news, some of the all-time greats have had stretches that didn't live up to their own standards

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Bro D]

Incredible to think she did that while playing so shiddy for a month! Wow!

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Legend12]

What im saying is that the automatic choice for Aja needs to be scrutinized. Why Aja over Cc?

1) Aja is one of the best offensive players in the game.
2) CC is one of the best offensive players in the game.
3) Aja is one of the best defensive players in the game.
4) CC is a below average defensive player in the game.
5) CC's #s against the 3 best teams she faces: 17 PPG, 44% FG, 26% 3, 7.5 APG, 5.2 TOPG
6) Aja's #s against the 3 best teams she faces: 24.1 PPG, 11 RPG, 48% FG
7) This season Aja has a higher FG%, higher 3PT%, higher FT%, higher eFG%, higher PER, higher W/S.

CC's slow start to this season is obviously a reason for some of these #s, but it is a season long award, not just a random period of time.

 

[Franisdaman]

2 minutes of highlights

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

So we would rather base votes off hypotheticals than something that has happened in reality?

A’ja has better stats, and A’ja shut her down with a crucial game on the line.
nice.

Never said that Clark should win over Aja this year. Aja's averaging nearly a double double and leading the league in scoring, right?

But with her size, she's ALWAYS going to beat Caitlin 1-on-1. Doesn't mean she's always going to win MVP. But she will this year.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[whynot?]

1) Aja is one of the best offensive players in the game.
2) CC is one of the best offensive players in the game.
3) Aja is one of the best defensive players in the game.
4) CC is a below average defensive player in the game
5) CC's #s against the 3 best teams she faces: 17 PPG, 44% FG, 26% 3, 7.5 APG, 5.2 TOPG
6) Aja's #s against the 3 best teams she faces: 24.1 PPG, 11 RPG, 48% FG
7) This season Aja has a higher FG%, higher 3PT%, higher FT%, higher eFG%, higher PER, higher W/S.

CC's slow start to this season is obviously a reason for some of these #s, but it is a season long award, not just a random period of time.

Ok, you’re correct, I think she’s the best player in this league. Does she sell out arenas on the road? Does she cause teams to change to bigger venues at home so they can make more money? Does she drive 80 percent of her team’s offense? Who’s most valuable to not only their team, but MVP of this league?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Really wish basketball officials would figure out a way to NOT reward offensive players for just lowering their shoulders and creating ALL the contact.

That call on Hall was ridiculous

It is funny, because they sure call that on Boston most of the time.....

 

[Hawksfor3]

Good thing MVP isn't based on 1-on-1 matchups.

I think everyone's vote should be strictly based on the following... If you were building your WNBA championship team THIS year, who would you pick first? Not who would win 1-on-1, not the best player on the best team, not who you'd build your franchise around for the next decade...

Not saying that makes Caitlin a LOCK over Aja, but it's gotta be one of those two.

KM is playing really well and the two of them are really clicking, but would anyone pick KM #1 to build that championship team?

One of the criteria for the award, and please correct me if I'm in error, is how valuable the player is to the team and how a team performs. Clark aces that test. However, the naysayers will always disagree by pointing out the turnovers. But a player who generates the amount of points that she does, has to receive heavy consideration. The Fever have a winning record, and Clark is responsible for helping to generate those wins in a large way. Not saying she'll win, but what she does when she's healthy, and being allowed to play with pace and orchestrate the offense, she's right there with the frontrunners.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Clark well on her way to another 25pt double double. Crazy

And another all time record. ONLY WNBA player with 800+ points and 300+ assists in any season.

 

[Legend12]

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And another all time record. ONLY WNBA player with 800+ points and 300+ assists in any season.

A LOT of NBA players have done that, so not really a record.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

HVL having flashbacks of the elite eight

Was thinking the same thing. She'll be seeing that 22 in her sleep again tonight...

 

[Hawksfor3]

Ok, you’re correct, I think she’s the best player in this league. Does she sell out arenas on the road? Does she cause teams to change to bigger venues at home so they can make more money? Does she drive 80 percent of her team’s offense? Who’s most valuable to not only their team, but MVP of this league?

Excellent point(s).

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

I think CC is the league MVP

She's really put herself legitimately in the conversation..

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

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A LOT of NBA players have done that, so not really a record.

Shirley you are joking, right?

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Russell has looked good this game.

I agree with the announcer saying it will be good for her to work with the staff during the break, both on conditioning, and getting in the flow of their offense. She could help them 6 or 7 minutes a game against some of the bigger teams in the playoffs.

 

[Hawksfor3]

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A LOT of NBA players have done that, so not really a record.

I was proud of you. But now, it's 2 steps forward, and 1 step back. Comparing the W to the NBA?????

 

[AFM22]

I was proud of you. But now, it's 2 steps forward, and 1 step back. Comparing the W to the NBA?????

I thought it was funny af bc of all the people saying Clark owns the men’s ncaa record too.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

My ex-wife who I share four daughters with is at the game….. she has stage 4 incurable cancer and is a big Fever fan

Her Brother took her to tonight’s game……. I couldn’t be happier for her to watch their performance tonight in person….. Caitlin’s a positive force in so many ways that usually go unnoticed

It is something to see "the show " in person. My wife and I spent a few days in Indy last year to catch a Fever game, and were fortunate to be there right after her first "injury break". She was great, and that was the "brawl" game with the Sun, with Clark and Sophie vs Mabry and Sheldon. Pretty rowdy crowd, especially after all that.

 

[AFM22]

Btw Reese beat Clark to 8 techs.

I’ll claim this one about bringing her up first.

 

[Legend12]

Btw Reese beat Clark to 8 techs.

I’ll claim this one about bringing her up first.

Good timing for her....won't have to play MN this weekend and can get packing for Germany.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

You watched that sequence and came out of it thinking Clark was better than A’ja?

?? Is that how the MVP is chosen, in a game of one on one, and whose the more physically imposing athlete? Who knew? I guess Chocolate Thunder Dawkins should have one a couple of MVP's....

 

[AFM22]

Good timing for her....won't have to play MN this weekend and can get packing for Germany.

NEEEEIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNN!

 

[whynot?]

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A LOT of NBA players have done that, so not really a record.

JFC, why does it always seem to come to someone being an ***!

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Imagine crowning someone Queen of the WNBA when they were fresh off a season ending injury and shooting 35%.

look, I like Clark. I watch all her games. I just think some of y’all over glaze her and then get all sensitive when people don’t fall in line and agree.

Her first month was Top 10-15 player-worthy. Maybe 5-10 at best. But saying she was top 3 in her first month is just over the top.

FIRST player in the HISTORY of the WNBA with 800+ points and 300+ assists in ANY season. Glaze away.....

 

[AFM22]

?? Is that how the MVP is chosen, in a game of one on one, and whose the more physically imposing athlete? Who knew? I guess Chocolate Thunder Dawkins should have one a couple of MVP's....

the original question wasn’t about MVP it was about “Why Aja over Clark” and what better reason than a head to head in the spotlight?

I can see how it would lead to mvp conversation, though.

 

[AFM22]

FIRST player in the HISTORY of the WNBA with 800+ points and 300+ assists in ANY season. Glaze away.....

Ya she’s having a great season now. Not in the first 30 days.

Come on, people.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Incredible to think she did that while playing so shiddy for a month! Wow!

AND missing games with her back and then being on a minutes restrictions for a couple of weeks.