***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

[Tom Paris]

Maybe I'm trying so hard not to be a homer that I've become biased in the other direction but l I think Miles is almost a lock for 1st team and CC is the one trying to play her way on.

Fwiw if she keeps playing at the level she is I think she'll make it.

First team
G. Olivia Miles (lock)
G. Kelsey Mitchell (should be a lock)
Open
F. Breanna Stewart (not really sure who the other forward would be)
F. A'ja Wilson (lock)

I'm not sure what the WNBA's rules are about voting and if that open spot is mandated to be a Guard/Forward or if it's up to voter discretion.

But if Guards are eligible I think it will come down to her or Paige.

If players decide, Clark won’t make Honorable Mention.

 

[Legend12]

Maybe I'm trying so hard not to be a homer that I've become biased in the other direction but l I think Miles is almost a lock for 1st team and CC is the one trying to play her way on.

Fwiw if she keeps playing at the level she is I think she'll make it.

First team
G. Olivia Miles (lock)
G. Kelsey Mitchell (should be a lock)
Open
F. Breanna Stewart (not really sure who the other forward would be)
F. A'ja Wilson (lock)

I'm not sure what the WNBA's rules are about voting and if that open spot is mandated to be a Guard/Forward or if it's up to voter discretion.

But if Guards are eligible I think it will come down to her or Paige.

The don't seem to be held to position specific selections:
In 2024 CC was the only G to make it on the 1st team
In 2023 no guards made the 1st team
And now it is a guard driven league with CC, Paige, Miles, KM, Plum all putting up great #s

I think the 1st team as of now would be:
Aja (1st in scoring, 3rd in rebounding, defensive force)
Miles (9th in scoring, 6th in assists, best player on best team)
KM (2nd in scoring, 4th in 3PT FG%, on most popular team)
CC (4th in scoring, T1st in assists, most popular player in league)

Like you I have that 5th spot open, with quite a few options.
Plum has missed a lot of games but is 3rd in scoring
Stewie is Stewie...21.3, 8.4, 3.2...47 FG%
Shepard is at 14.2 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 5.2 APG shooting 59% from field.
Paige is at 20.1 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 5.8 APG, 51% FG, 39% 3FG
In a typical year I think Boston gets a fair amount of votes...and you have to wonder if the KM-CC-AB trio takes some votes from each other.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

I don't watch any of the pre-game or halftime reports, but I don’t watch The Real Housewives of Atlanta either .

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[Hawksfor3]

Timpson did a solid job defensively tonight. Still hesitates a little bit after receiving a pass from Caitlin and it costs her opportunities to finish.

She doesn't quite have that tenacity and edge that Rodman played with, and thankfully, lacks the theatrics and drama as well.

AB and Mitchell have trouble finishing after a CC pass at times too.

 

[The Big Z]

AB and Mitchell have trouble finishing after a CC pass at times too.

Yes, those girls should catch every pass from CC no matter what and make sure she gets an assist on every pass. I mean neither is carrying their weight at all.

 

[The Big Z]

I still don't understand her saying she didn't see it in real time. What was she watching?

 

[Herky T Hawk]

I still don't understand her saying she didn't see it in real time. What was she watching?

I’m guessing she meant that she didn’t get to see multiple replays from different angles during the game and got asked about it in the post-game conference before seeing them. Hence the defense of Carrington.

But she wasn’t really clear in saying that, so I’m putting words into her mouth by guessing.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Yes, those girls should catch every pass from CC no matter what and make sure she gets an assist on every pass. I mean neither is carrying their weight at all.

It just seems a little off. Watch carefully. You'll see times when they receive passes while in a good position to score. But, they have difficulty finishing, and in some cases they will pass to someone else for a score. Other times, They mishandle easy passes that should lead to a finish with a shot attempt. There are other times that they will not even attempt to shoot, but immediately look for someone to pass to. And, finally, there are times when a player receives a pass from her and they have a desperate look to them, even as Clark is being closely guarded, and lately, double-teamed. Look closely to recognize the subtlety of these actions.

 

[Hawksfor3]

I’m guessing she meant that she didn’t get to see multiple replays from different angles during the game and got asked about it in the post-game conference before seeing them. Hence the defense of Carrington.

But she wasn’t really clear in saying that, so I’m putting words into her mouth by guessing.

Her, looking directly at the play, as still photography and video replays confirm, and then denying that she saw it, is the rub.

 

[Ludd]

To be fair. She's pretty damn open when she shoots or she won't shoot. And that's a good thing.

CC would only get one shot a game if she only shot when she was open.

 

[Hawksfor3]

CC would only get one shot a game if she only shot when she was open.

 

[WDSMHawk]

It just seems a little off. Watch carefully. You'll see times when they receive passes while in a good position to score. But, they have difficulty finishing, and in some cases they will pass to someone else for a score. Other times, They mishandle easy passes that should lead to a finish with a shot attempt. There are other times that they will not even attempt to shoot, but immediately look for someone to pass to. And, finally, there are times when a player receives a pass from her and they have a desperate look to them, even as Clark is being closely guarded, and lately, double-teamed. Look closely to recognize the subtlety of these actions.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Thank you sir!

 

[Hawksfor3]

There are photos of her standing there watching it. Then Sophie gets up with a bloody mouth, did you see that Steph? SW is a total idiot.

Lynn Dunn saw it too.

 

[The Big Z]

It just seems a little off. Watch carefully. You'll see times when they receive passes while in a good position to score. But, they have difficulty finishing, and in some cases they will pass to someone else for a score. Other times, They mishandle easy passes that should lead to a finish with a shot attempt. There are other times that they will not even attempt to shoot, but immediately look for someone to pass to. And, finally, there are times when a player receives a pass from her and they have a desperate look to them, even as Clark is being closely guarded, and lately, double-teamed. Look closely to recognize the subtlety of these actions.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. She’s getting 10 assists almost every game now. People aren’t going to catch every pass she throws and score. They just aren’t. While we make fun of the league there are some darn good and athletic defenders guarding her. Her and Mitchell plus Boston play incredibly off of each other. CC is by far the most creative passer in the legit she also throws a lot of tough passes to teammates she shouldn’t. You can’t expect these ladies to catch every pass and score. Because it also doesn’t happen in the NBA either.

 

[Hawksfor3]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. She’s getting 10 assists almost every game now. People aren’t going to catch every pass she throws and score. They just aren’t. While we make fun of the league there are some darn good and athletic defenders guarding her. Her and Mitchell plus Boston play incredibly off of each other. CC is by far the most creative passer in the legit she also throws a lot of tough passes to teammates she shouldn’t. You can’t expect these ladies to catch every pass and score. Because it also doesn’t happen in the NBA either.

I agree with much of what you're saying, but many, including myself, feel that she could have many more assists if the others could catch and finish. We're at the point where folks are saying things like, "Well, there goes another blown assist for Clark" That's just reality. And many shots aren't that difficult.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Nice tribute to Don Nelson on USA. Toronto vs Dallas.

 

[doughuddl2_rivals]

I still don't understand her saying she didn't see it in real time. What was she watching?

And I call BS on her for saying that.

Is she also saying she's not smart enough to look up and see the replay of the play while the officials review the play?

Maybe she is that dumb and not lying.

 

[Hawksfor3]

And I call BS on her for saying that.

Is she also saying she's not smart enough to look up and see the replay of the play while the officials review the play?

Maybe she is that dumb and not lying.

Poor thing. She's getting destroyed by fans right now.

 

[Ludd]

Yes, those girls should catch every pass from CC no matter what and make sure she gets an assist on every pass. I mean neither is carrying their weight at all.

Supposedly the best in the world, so there’s that.

 

[Ludd]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. She’s getting 10 assists almost every game now. People aren’t going to catch every pass she throws and score. They just aren’t. While we make fun of the league there are some darn good and athletic defenders guarding her. Her and Mitchell plus Boston play incredibly off of each other. CC is by far the most creative passer in the legit she also throws a lot of tough passes to teammates she shouldn’t. You can’t expect these ladies to catch every pass and score. Because it also doesn’t happen in the NBA either.

I think the expectation is to catch the good passes and make the easy shots, that’s not asking too much. The missed layups happen way more in the WNBA than in the NBA.

 

[The Big Z]

Supposedly the best in the world, so there’s that.

Not supposedly. What league is better?

 

[The Big Z]

I think the expectation is to catch the good passes and make the easy shots, that’s not asking too much. The missed layups happen way more in the WNBA than in the NBA.

Again, now that she’s playing more minutes she’s getting 10 a game. The men don’t miss as many layups because they’re playing above the rim. Nobody plays above the rim or dunks in the W.

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

Maybe I'm trying so hard not to be a homer that I've become biased in the other direction but l I think Miles is almost a lock for 1st team and CC is the one trying to play her way on.

Fwiw if she keeps playing at the level she is I think she'll make it.

First team
G. Olivia Miles (lock)
G. Kelsey Mitchell (should be a lock)
Open
F. Breanna Stewart (not really sure who the other forward would be)
F. A'ja Wilson (lock)

I'm not sure what the WNBA's rules are about voting and if that open spot is mandated to be a Guard/Forward or if it's up to voter discretion.

But if Guards are eligible I think it will come down to her or Paige.

You are trying too hard. CC leads her in PPG and APG. We still have games to go but if CC keeps on, the MVP race is Wilson, CC and Mitchell. Give Miles the rookie of the year.

 

[doughuddl2_rivals]

77m

I think the expectation is to catch the good passes and make the easy shots, that’s not asking too much. The missed layups happen way more in the WNBA than in the NBA.

Ten missed assist opportunities from NY game.

 

[Hawksfor3]

77m

Ten missed assist opportunities from NY game.

Thanks for confirming my thoughts in post #12,096. I saw 8 missed opportunities, but we get the picture. BTW, Carrington's at it again. Trifecta tonight vs GS. She gave two players a big hand and had a fan ejected. Can someone tell her to clock out and take some vacation time?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Olivia Miles, the new face of the WNBA, blew up the stat sheet tonight. 13 pts on 3/13 shooting, 6-7 on FTs, 1/3 on 3s. But 7 assists and only TWO turnovers which is the real indicator as to why Miles is already in a category "miles" above Caitlin Clark..................

















Amirite?

 

[huntinghawk]

Very true. Still I had to chuckle when they were talking about Mitchell being in the league 9 or 10 years now, BUT it was just from 2024-26 That she really took off. Hmmm.. I wonder what happened two season ago until now that let her have her three best years in a row, and getting better. Obviously Mitchell's put in the work as she has all the way back to OSU, but what happened in 2024 that opened the floor up for her. Hmmm..

Maybe legend knows since it has nothing to do with CC.

 

[huntinghawk]

Yes, everything good that has ever happened to anyone is thanks to CC.

KM was an AS the season before CC arrived, and I know you didn't follow the WNBA then, but she was s player who was continually talked about as getting better and better.

Why, when people talk about CC's assists do we not thank and honor Mitchell for her scoring prowess and efficiency?

If they don't sign her I would put a large wager with you on her numbers dropping next year. I know you won't take it.

 

[Herky T Hawk]

Thanks for confirming my thoughts in post #12,096. I saw 8 missed opportunities, but we get the picture. BTW, Carrington's at it again. Trifecta tonight vs GS. She gave two players a big hand and had a fan ejected. Can someone tell her to clock out and take some vacation time?

There needs to be a rule against long nails in the WNBA. Either this is a fashion league for influencers, or it is a sports league where player safety is considered.

 

[pablow]

Thanks for confirming my thoughts in post #12,096. I saw 8 missed opportunities, but we get the picture. BTW, Carrington's at it again. Trifecta tonight vs GS. She gave two players a big hand and had a fan ejected. Can someone tell her to clock out and take some vacation time?

Not only is the league letting her get away with this sh*t, they won't even make her trim her fingernails. How can the WNBA allow players on the court with essentially claws. If someone is blinded, the WNBA is going to get sued and lose its ***.

 

[pablow]

Yes, everything good that has ever happened to anyone is thanks to CC.

KM was an AS the season before CC arrived, and I know you didn't follow the WNBA then, but she was s player who was continually talked about as getting better and better.

Why, when people talk about CC's assists do we not thank and honor Mitchell for her scoring prowess and efficiency?

True, but if it weren't for Caitlin, Kelsey would be getting double teamed the whole game. CC absorbs all the incoming heat.

 

[Hawkeye_Miguel]

Dropped the Hawkeye color scheme today. I like. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the top selling color

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Thanks for confirming my thoughts in post #12,096. I saw 8 missed opportunities, but we get the picture. BTW, Carrington's at it again. Trifecta tonight vs GS. She gave two players a big hand and had a fan ejected. Can someone tell her to clock out and take some vacation time?

steph white approves!!!

Also, why does it not make national news against the valks?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Not only is the league letting her get away with this sh*t, they won't even make her trim her fingernails. How can the WNBA allow players on the court with essentially claws. If someone is blinded, the WNBA is going to get sued and lose its ***.

Fingernails are a protected species

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Why is it always white guys getting ejected?

 

[Ludd]

Not supposedly. What league is better?

Most high school boys leagues.

 

[Ludd]

Again, now that she’s playing more minutes she’s getting 10 a game. The men don’t miss as many layups because they’re playing above the rim. Nobody plays above the rim or dunks in the W.

The 10 a game shows how many great passes she makes considering so many easy shots are missed.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I have not tracked it but I hear a lot about the league not crediting CC with assists. Well, certain ones. She obviously gets a ton but the thinking is she should have more.

 

[nu2u]

I have not tracked it but I hear a lot about the league not crediting CC with assists. Well, certain ones. She obviously gets a ton but the thinking is she should have more.

Yes, even the statisticians hate Caitlin Clark. JFC.