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chipackhawk

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Kinda like how Jason Whitlock was pro-Caitlin going into the season, and then spent the first month or two of the season jumping on the anti-Caitlin bandwagon because it was more attention-grabbing to complain about her behavior with the officials.

He's since flip-flopped back after Caitlin was one of the few who didn't embarrass themselves at the All-Star game.
His main issue with CC is her constant whining to officials - and he's not wrong with that take.
 

chipackhawk

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If they called the game fairly she wouldn't have to...but instead they let her get assaulted constantly with nothing called
If you are going to try and make the argument that CC has not been whining about officiating since the moment she took the Carver floor you have not been paying attention. She is a multi-generational great player, but her on court behavior towards referees is pretty childish. I love her "red ***" approach to the game itself, however.
 

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If you are going to try and make the argument that CC complains too much, you haven't been paying attention to basketball of any kind outside of Fever games. If you want to see childish behavior, watch college coaches.. or any NBA game.. or any other WNBA game. The fact the line in the sand for CC has moved to her on-court "antics" is hilarious.
 

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Shocking four black women defending another of the thugs in the league. Mcnutt can't stand Clark and generally takes the anti Clark stance when conversations come up.Andrea Carter has been dissing Clark since her junior year in college when ever an opportunity arose. Nothing to see here...
About as shocking as the stance of 90% of the posters on here regarding any issue arising around Caitlin Clark. It's turned in to a political discussion. Give me a poster and a situation and I could tell you pretty much exactly where they stand on it.
 

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I only watch Fever games, so I have no idea if other players have been this demonstrative to refs - but I would think this deserved a technical



Well if you watched the Fever's last game you should of saw this, N Cloud making fun of official and dropping F bomb.

This is as demonstrative as it gets.

What do you think would of happened to CC?

 

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She's not the only one to be T'd up for that


She didn't do that...she may have tried do, but that is not what she did.



Both parties were told to shut up and both parties continued to swear at each other so were both T'd up.



Paige got a T for that this year as well.



Other players have been T'd up for contact with a ref.
Yet Clark didn’t get away with any of them…that was the point.
 

Amahawk

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Shocking four black women defending another of the thugs in the league. Mcnutt can't stand Clark and generally takes the anti Clark stance when conversations come up.Andrea Carter has been dissing Clark since her junior year in college when ever an opportunity arose. Nothing to see here...
Will Carrington try that against one of the new players that declared for the WNBA draft?
 

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My next post was going to be Caitlin had a 26 and 11 game and no one is talking about it. It's true but there's just so much bullcrap like this:



So no call on Cloud for the bump on Caitlin, a tech called on Caitlin for accidental bump on ref resulting from the Cloud bump, and then another Cloud bump, this time the intentional bump on the same ref and a no call.

This league is one bumpy ride.

A cynic might observe but being Black sure can help smooth that ride.
 

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It's possible for two things to be true.

1. The officiating is very inconsistent, some of the worst you'll see in a major sports league.
2. She whines way too much and way too demonstratively. That doesn't help her cause.
The "demonstratively" is exactly my point. She makes it very much known to everyone when she is upset. Simply phasing out the outspread arms would help.
 
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His main issue with CC is her constant whining to officials - and he's not wrong with that take.
Several channels grifted off that narrative for nearly a month. It wasn't just Whitlock. And of course he's not wrong, because we've complained about it since she was at Iowa. The difference is we aren't trying to be sensationalist and profit off some hate parade flipping narratives and painting her as the villain of the WNBA now for her whining to the refs...............
 

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Where and why isn't the media and protesters all over Coco Gauff (tennis) like they are on Sophie.


I'd say bc Cunningham used the fear mongering language used by politicians and transphobes while Gauff gave a nuanced answer to a complicated issue.
Most people don't want adult trans athletes participating in meaningful competitions. Before puberty gets more complicated since sports can be very helpful for kids, especially ones that are bullied and excluded to the point that they are very likely to commit suicide.
 

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It's possible for two things to be true.

1. The officiating is very inconsistent, some of the worst you'll see in a major sports league.
2. She whines way too much and way too demonstratively. That doesn't help her cause.
Agreed, which is where some of the quick T's come from probably. Still this last one was complete nonsense....
 

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I'd say bc Cunningham used the fear mongering language used by politicians and transphobes while Gauff gave a nuanced answer to a complicated issue.
Most people don't want adult trans athletes participating in meaningful competitions. Before puberty gets more complicated since sports can be very helpful for kids, especially ones that are bullied and excluded to the point that they are very likely to commit suicide.
The only people who got "fear mongered" were the idiots who assumed that the people who were saying anything about her original comment were being truthful and accurate. Huge problem in our social media driven society.
 

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I'd say bc Cunningham used the fear mongering language used by politicians and transphobes while Gauff gave a nuanced answer to a complicated issue.
Most people don't want adult trans athletes participating in meaningful competitions. Before puberty gets more complicated since sports can be very helpful for kids, especially ones that are bullied and excluded to the point that they are very likely to commit suicide.
I don't believe that pushing for your transgender child to participate in women's sports is going to relieve her of bullying and the accompanying mental anguish. On the contrary.

Millions upon millions of kids, straight, gay, and otherwise go through life perfectly fine without ever or barely participating in organized sports. Even if I didn't believe that it was fundamentally unfair for transgender females to compete against biological females in strength related sporting events, the last direction I'd be pushing for my transgender daughter is towards anything that is going to subject her to more scrutiny, bias, and degradation. If it's that important to their mental and physical well being, then they can still compete against the boys. Last I checked, people aren't losing their shat over that.
 
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About as shocking as the stance of 90% of the posters on here regarding any issue arising around Caitlin Clark. It's turned in to a political discussion. Give me a poster and a situation and I could tell you pretty much exactly where they stand on it.
 

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I don't believe that pushing for your transgender child to participate in women's sports is going to relieve her of bullying and the accompanying mental anguish. On the contrary.

Millions upon millions of kids, straight, gay, and otherwise go through life perfectly fine without ever or barely participating in organized sports. Even if I didn't believe that it was fundamentally unfair for transgender females to compete against biological females in strength related sporting events, the last direction I'd be pushing for my transgender daughter is towards anything that is going to subject her to more scrutiny, bias, and degradation. If it's that important to their mental and physical well being, then they can still compete against the boys. Last I checked, people aren't losing their shat over that.
That's a valid point now that the issue of transgender participation has turned into a political football to the point that participation at any level will get noticed and cause freakouts.

I don't think it's as simple as putting them on a team with the boys. They don't see themselves as boys, and the boys are likely to bully and reject them. I'd say youth participation should be decided on a case by case basis within a community, since the whole point is for these kids to be accepted and welcomed in their community.

Sarah McBride, the transgender representative from Delaware has a surprisingly balanced view of trans issues. I liked her convo with Ezra Klein.

 

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My next post was going to be Caitlin had a 26 and 11 game and no one is talking about it. It's true but there's just so much bullcrap like this:



So no call on Cloud for the bump on Caitlin, a tech called on Caitlin for accidental bump on ref resulting from the Cloud bump, and then another Cloud bump, this time the intentional bump on the same ref and a no call.

This league is one bumpy ride.

A cynic might observe but being Black sure can help smooth that ride.

The ref is scared s---less of Cloud with all the muscles. And what about that 6-pack?
 
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The "demonstratively" is exactly my point. She makes it very much known to everyone when she is upset. Simply phasing out the outspread arms would help.
Chicago Sports Radio Station 670 The Score really dissed CC this morning when talking about Saturday's Fever/Sky game. They basically said her excellent play is overshadowed by her constant whining to the officials. No surprise there, the hosts Mully and Haugh have never been fans of CC.
 

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Chicago Sports Radio Station 670 The Score really dissed CC this morning when talking about Saturday's Fever/Sky game. They basically said her excellent play is overshadowed by her constant whining to the officials. No surprise there, the hosts Mully and Haugh have never been fans of CC.
Huh? Were they saying that Caitlin was whining a lot in this game? If they're basing that on her totally justified reaction to the bogus tech then they're just crazy.
 

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Chicago Sports Radio Station 670 The Score really dissed CC this morning when talking about Saturday's Fever/Sky game. They basically said her excellent play is overshadowed by her constant whining to the officials. No surprise there, the hosts Mully and Haugh have never been fans of CC.
She really needs to tone it down. She can't control what the stripe shirted s--t boxes do, but the extracurriculars are costing her. And all of this Trans stuff going on. We never had these issues with sports when I was a kid in the '50's and '60's.
 

Hawksfor3

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Chicago Sports Radio Station 670 The Score really dissed CC this morning when talking about Saturday's Fever/Sky game. They basically said her excellent play is overshadowed by her constant whining to the officials. No surprise there, the hosts Mully and Haugh have never been fans of CC.
Haven't listened to Chicago radio since I was in my teens there. And my ears were glued to WLS before they f---ed it up by turning it into talk radio. Can Chicago media even be believed?
 

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She really needs to tone it down. She can't control what the stripe shirted s--t boxes do, but the extracurriculars are costing her.
100%

I loved watching her play for the Hawks, she's a generational talent. Not a big WNBA fan (or women's hoops fan in general for that matter) but I do see/hear/read enough to have a feel for what's going on.

She handles herself very well off the court, seems very mature and professional. On the court, not so much.
 

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100%

I loved watching her play for the Hawks, she's a generational talent. Not a big WNBA fan (or women's hoops fan in general for that matter) but I do see/hear/read enough to have a feel for what's going on.

She handles herself very well off the court, seems very mature and professional. On the court, not so much.
I agree. Watching some of the back and forth between her and the zebraic morons kind of makes me crabby.
 
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