roller derby used to be a fun watch.......Give 'em skates and helmets, I say.
***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***
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Just for the heck of it, I pulled up a box score from when Minny played the Celtics this past season. Two decent defensive teams I believe, and there were a grand total of 29 PF's called. W officials are a joke.
I'll be that guy
.Caitlin should have shot close to twenty free throws.
I don't think it's uncommon for other big name players to shoot that many. Didn't Stewart shoot 19 free throws against Indiana this year? Toward the end of the game she earned one when she leaned into Caitlin’s hip and drove on her and Caitlin gets the CHEAP foul.
Bad calls happen and occasionally one breaks Caitlin's way, but it's way out of balance the other way.
For the people who think of us as whiners answer me this: do you not think the three fouls called against Caitlin while defending Howard and Canada were absolutel bullcrap? Especially the two drawn by the weak-kneed Canada? The Howard foul was b.s. too but the league does get wet for stuff like that
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That's why we need the W to rebrand NOW and issue their equipment!
I believe Stewie shot 21 free throws and made 19 in that game.....I'll be that guy
Caitlin should have shot close to twenty free throws.
I don't think it's uncommon for other big name players to shoot that many. Didn't Stewart shoot 19 free throws against Indiana this year? Toward the end of the game she earned one when she leaned into Caitlin’s hip and drove on her and Caitlin gets the CHEAP foul.
Bad calls happen and occasionally one breaks Caitlin's way, but it's way out of balance the other way.
For the people who think of us as whiners answer me this: do you not think the three fouls called against Caitlin while defending Howard and Canada were absolutel bullcrap? Especially the two drawn by the weak-kneed Canada? The Howard foul was b.s. too but the league does get wet for stuff like that
Okay, 19 stuck out in my head. So that's even worse then, ofc.
They always admit they grab her in the press conferences. They just do it until they can’t get away with it. They are getting away with it, so they do it. It really is that simple. Not difficult stuff.
Then they ***** when they get called for it
The W is crap, I never watched a second before Clark I won't watch a second after Clark.
Refs make it borderline unwatchable.
OT: I believe that Kate will have one more game to play with LA, coming up on Sunday, before they decide to keep or waive her. Hope she stays. The Sparks have just waived a forward to bring in another point guard.
Not a good comparison. The Celtics shoot 40-45 3’s a game. You don’t draw a lot of fouls when you’re shooting a ton of 3’s. Look, the refs are certainly not great in the W. And there’s been an edict obviously to try and make the game less physical but the players are not adjusting. Again, CC shot 12 free throws so it’s not like she’s not getting any calls. Did you watch the NBA finals? Basically there were 3-4 fouls on every possession I swear. Nothing was easy. But both teams played through it.
In this discussion, they argue that Nike should have had the Caitlin signature shoe out 3 years ago.
Why the 3 year delay?
Watch:
Why the 3 year delay?
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Totally different with fouls in the finals. Refs let them play and go at it. The problem that I have is that the officiating in the W is inconsistent and questionable a lot of times. For example, why do Aja and Stewart get the lion's share of the calls? Oh, and by the way- Not a good comparison you say? Here's the game I randomly selected to get the foul numbers. Now, you tell me who shot the most threes.
Timberwolves 102-92 Celtics (Mar 22, 2026) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Minnesota Timberwolves vs. Boston Celtics NBA game from March 22, 2026 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
www.espn.com
One team shot 15 and the other 18. So hardly any either way. And both teams took 33 3’s.Totally different with fouls in the finals. Refs let them play and go at it. The problem that I have is that the officiating in the W is inconsistent and questionable a lot of times. For example, why do Aja and Stewart get the lion's share of the calls? Oh, and by the way- Not a good comparison you say? Here's the game I randomly selected to get the foul numbers. Now, you tell me who shot the most threes.
Timberwolves 102-92 Celtics (Mar 22, 2026) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Minnesota Timberwolves vs. Boston Celtics NBA game from March 22, 2026 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
This is about CC and Fever. Fever are 2/3 games over .500 but something just doesn’t “look right”. Rebounding and turnovers are a team issue. CC has every team taking her 1 on1 as much as possible. She gets help initially but the “secondary help “ isn’t there most of the time. With all the motion offenses have these days CC does not move a lot when she one or two passes away. She is getting a lot of assists which is obviously good, but things just are not clicking. Boston, Cunningham and Mitchell have played well overall but as a team they haven’t come together. Still plenty of time. CC is a competitor but her body language is not the best, from my perspective. I don’t think it’s coaching, but some of you will disagree. Not sure if there are locker room issues etc. I just think that they are hard to watch at times and hope things get straightened out soon.
The only way this will fix itself is the one thing Caitlin can't do.
Shut the f*** up and give them no reaction.
What I find amusing is that they went on and on last night about what a great defensive player Rhyne Howard is and even after the game they couldn’t stop drooling over her defensive game, yet Clark hung 26 on her in three quarters….but when someone on the other team scores 10 or 12 against Clark we hear how bad she is. I said it before and I’ll say it again, the women’s game is different.
On the topic of officiating. The video reviews, no matter how clear cut, take 3 minutes. What the fuuk are they doing? And, after the decision it takes another minute (at least) to notify the scorer and then the coaches. And finally, the ref graps a mike to give the fans a pompous detailed explanation of the decision.
Catherine Engelbert is a moron.
Catherine Engelbert is a moron.
They'll say it's because of the hype and expectations being different.
CC is suppose to drop 30 every game and not make it look difficult (i.e be efficient).
Yep - Caitlin dribbled the ball off Howards foot and the TV announcers had an orgasm praising Howard for her brilliant defensive play.
Its infuriating. Most (almost all) of the reviews are not game changing calls and the few that are, or could be, shoul be decided within a much shorter timeframe. 3 minute reviews are ridiculously long (and they sometimes still get it wrong!).
Thought I'd put on the Minn/Valkyrie game on ION. In just a minute or so later, a GS player caught 2 elbows in the mouth on the same play. Some things never change.
Some things never change.
Liberty lose to the Mystics randomly. Things that make you go hmmm.....
Miles is being guarded like CC tonight. Which doesn’t surprise me given Reeve coaching. She’s struggling. Looks a bit overwhelmed.
What do you mean that it doesn't surprise you because Reeve is coaching?
Clark draws the 2nd most fouls per game (7.1) in the league.
I think anyone who follows the WNBA knows she’s not gonna care that her rookie star player is struggling. She’s not gonna deviate from what she’s doing. Miles sat for a period during the 1q because of her struggles. And then she was moved off the ball when she came back in.
Sorry about your new favorite player, Legend.
Guess we'll have to stick with CC as the face of the league.
My point is that Minnesota doesn’t need Miles to be great. They’re too well coached and too balanced and deep. Fever are none of those things..
Wut?
You said it doesn't surprise you that Miles was being guarded like CC because Reeve was coaching.
To identify WNBA players who draw the most fouls, consider the following top players:
- Breanna Stewart - Known for her aggressive play and ability to draw contact.
- A'ja Wilson - Dominates in the paint, often resulting in fouls against her.
- Liz Cambage - Her size and skill make her a frequent target for fouls.
- Arike Ogunbowale - Quick and elusive, she often forces defenders to foul.
- Jonquel Jones - Versatile forward who attracts fouls with her scoring ability.
- Sabrina Ionescu - Her playmaking and driving skills lead to frequent fouls drawn.