The FO did a terrible job putting this team together.
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Their playoff push coming out of the Olympic break was some of the most fun I’ve had watching basketball since Dr. Tom’s final season at Iowa.
Clark’s +/- was 2nd best on the team. No player had a +, terrible.
Billings, tonight, played 8 minutes and had zero shots. She's averaging 6 points-per-game for the season. She was a big signing, but sometimes it's easy to forget she's even on the team.
Only 2 three attempts for Clark, they set no good screens to get her open looks just run around off the ball for a contested three, White and Clark do not work
Not even close to the elite eight run this year that was fun
Meg one bucket away from tying her career high. Finished with 22. Leading scorer of the game.
I think people also expected her to be a superstar and she’s just not really.
Yeah, I just checked her career stats and she only averages 6.3 ppg for her career, although the last two years have been over 8. Still, I expected a bit more from her on the Fever.
Clark also ended up on Gus several times. What a mess.....
Mitchell obviously CAN score. She;s one of the top 5 scorers in the league most of her career, BUT that waist high layup is infuriating. That is such a low percentage shot especially in traffic....
Probably because of all the time she's spent sitting on her A-- again, its pretty clear where the fault lies. The roster is crap, (outside of Sophie, who has her moments they have the worst bench in the league). and the coach is pulling the leash on the most explosive player in the game. Lets not find a way to get her good looks. Lets stop running that pick and roll that worked so well the last 2 years. Lets pull most of the starters out 3 minutes into the game when they get off to a good start.....Why is Clark smiling
Right where White wants her.....
She had SEVEN shots in the game. SEVEN. How exactly is she supposed to go off like that. Does it look like she's playing with the kind of freedom we saw at Iowa. Play 2 or 3 minutes go up 8-2, she's already got 2 points and 3 assists, and "oh, lets manage her minutes".
And yet some will say its Clark that's struggling, not the system.....
Oh, your right. Clarks the problem on this team......For whatever reason the refs are playing into this as well. The Fire point guard took Clark in the lane. Clark played very good defense and stayed right in her chest, so she dips her shoulder and drives into Clark displacing her several feet, and gets the basket. That was the most obvious offensive foul in the game, and no call
Everyone will say that. People who know basketball can see a flawed system…the WNBA “experts” won’t call it out, they’ll just blame Clark.
More obvious than Boston throwing her body into MG in the post??
It's obvious your entire view of women's basketball is simply Caitlin Clark....you obviously didn't follow the game before her, or even when she was at Iowa, as you make statements that are just not based in reality.
Clark does not have great quickness, that can’t be changed. A coach has to come up with a defensive system that can overcome that, not just hope she gets quicker or blame her for not being quicker. The switching every time the other team even fakes a pick is a flawed system for all of them, not just Clark. Putting Clark on the other team’s fastest player is a flawed system that directly hurts her. Either change your defense to fit Clark or trade her for a player that does fit.
She has not been very good this year neither has Boston. Seems all the other teams have figured Stephanie White out this year.
What can be changed is Clark's effort. and thus far we haven't see much of that happening. Until that improves on a consistent basis no defensive system will work. Teams can always find her and put her into a 1v1 situation.
Cc has been very unimpressive lately, you can admit it it won't kill ya. Her passing is still great but that's been about it lately. It doesn't take an "expert" to see it
It has very little to do with effort. You can’t make yourself quicker than you are no matter how hard you try.
The ONLY thing that's obvious on here is your "wholier then thou attitude" and how much you talk down to other posters. Your right though I never watched her at Iowa, (never missed a game) or Gus and Doyle before her. And talk about not based in reality, tell us how that guard lowering her shoulder into Clark in the lane and driving her back several feet was not an offensive foul? I know you can't stand Clark, so why do you watch and comment on her games? See, I can make an assumption based on the negative stuff you ;post as well. Oh' I'm sorry, only someone who calls himself "Legend" can comment. Has anyone ever discussed you being a narcissist? Just wondering...
Unimpressive compared to who? She had 16/6/4 last game…most point guards would kill for that stat line. She was bad tonight and she will have other bad games throughout the season, but her good games could be much better with a system that fits her style of play. There should never ever be a game where she shoots 7 times and only twice from the three point line no matter how cold she starts off. A coach needs to give her the ball and get out of the way- ask Lisa Bluder and Christie Sides.
Until today she was third in the league in scoring averaging 23 points a game. So I can only assume the standard is different for her than the other 140 some players. No?
I outlined it in a post this morning. Once again the front office committed malpractice with their offseason. The Bonner signing last year was atrocious, but you’d expect a well respected long time veteran to understand her role coming into that team and not cause issues, so I can give the FO some pass on it.
But overpaying Mitchell, Billings, and Hull. Bringing Dantas back. Not having a viable backup for an obviously injured Boston. Not surrounding CC with defensive players and/or bigs that can shoot from outside the paint. They are competing with Chicago for the worst offseason, and Chicago’s seemed maliciously intentional in damaging their own team.
And tonight was another case of Steph trying to be the smartest person in the league as a coach by zigging instead of zagging. But just being a normal coach probably keeps the train from coming off the rails in the 1st quarter. They may as well have called the game after 10 minutes.
But overpaying Mitchell, Billings, and Hull. Bringing Dantas back. Not having a viable backup for an obviously injured Boston. Not surrounding CC with defensive players and/or bigs that can shoot from outside the paint. They are competing with Chicago for the worst offseason, and Chicago’s seemed maliciously intentional in damaging their own team.
And tonight was another case of Steph trying to be the smartest person in the league as a coach by zigging instead of zagging. But just being a normal coach probably keeps the train from coming off the rails in the 1st quarter. They may as well have called the game after 10 minutes.
Under SW's offense, if Caitlin wants to score, she has to force her shots. It's even diffcult for CC to get assists because SW yanked the pick and roll, AB's playing on the perimeter half the time, and the transition game is bye-bye.
SW has CC, KM, and AB all swimming upstream. I think the players are demoralized.
This is a sinking ship.
SW has CC, KM, and AB all swimming upstream. I think the players are demoralized.
This is a sinking ship.
This whole situation with Stephanie White is exactly like the situation with Paul Westhead and Magic Johnson. Westhead would not change his system to take advantage of what he had in Magic, so Magic demanded a trade. The owner chose to keep Magic instead and won multiple championships. Westhead was not a bad coach, he just didn’t know how to adapt for a player with Magic’s skills. The Fever either have to get rid of White or get rid of Clark, it’s really that simple.
She would be fine if she had six or seven players that all could all score double digits. That’s what she needs as a coach. She’s lost with only three players and she has no idea how to adapt.
You once claimed that Iowa and Clark sold out every arena they played in.
Anyone who followed her at Iowa would know that is not even close to being accurate.
Don't get me wrong, I've always been a cc fan. But yes, she kinda is held to a higher standard, when you're considered one of greatest bb players of all time you are.
And the others considered the greatest players never came close to what she’s done in her first 61 games….are you saying those players never had bad games?