***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

[SoonerBeAHawk]

So I went to the Fever page to see if there was an injury report just to make sure Caitlin wasn't listed. There wasn't one, but I think I potentially have much better news ...




It appears from this Antonelli is off the call!

I seriously think I would take just about anyone over her.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Howard is another black hole on the team. If she get the ball close to the paint, she's going to the hoop period. She had one assist on a nice feed to AB when they doubled her, and I was shocked that she actually passed the ball to someone...

I'm monitoring her scoring while Clark is in.

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

So I went to the Fever page to see if there was an injury report just to make sure Caitlin wasn't listed. There wasn't one, but I think I potentially have much better news ...




It appears from this Antonelli is off the call!

I seriously think I would take just about anyone over her.

This is probably crazy talk given how good Atlanta is this year, and how inconsistent Indy has been playing, but at some point they are due to go off and I think this is the night. Caitlin goes for 30, 15, and 10. Please let this age well...

 

[Hawksfor3]

Is the Fever FO going to fumble the golden goose on a platter?

She needs to get White and her staff in the conference room and get some things straightened out, like running a system where the Hoss is in charge. This slow it down motion offense is garbage.

 

[QCHawkeye]

The WNBA is such a damn mess. I want to support and like it, but the league has horrible officials and some really stupid coaches.

 

[Hawksfor3]

The WNBA is such a damn mess. I want to support and like it, but the league has horrible officials and some really stupid coaches.

And the players want more money. For what? Maybe a handful of them are worth a raise.

 

[Chuck Norris’s Mustache]

She needs to get White and her staff in the conference room and get some things straightened out, like running a system where the Hoss is in charge. This slow it down motion offense is garbage.

Kelly K just deactivated her twitter account because she was getting so much flak on Twitter after that video was posted.

It’s almost mind boggling the disconnect the Fever front office has. Do they really believe that the dramatic rise in Fever attendance, merchandise, tv ratings, etc is due to people’s interest in the Fever as a team? The 50% decline in viewership when CC was hurt should have made it clear to them what people are tuning in for. If CC left after her rookie contract, they would be right back to where they were before, with only 4-5000 fans for home games and abysmal tv ratings.

If you’re on Twitter, check out the comments in any of the recent posts by the Fever’s official account. Pretty much every comment is just ripping on White and the Fever FO.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

And the players want more money. For what? Maybe a handful of them are worth a raise.

And the players want more money. For what? Maybe a handful of them are worth a raise.

This. They just don't seem to really understand business at all. As good as some of the players were pre CC22, they just had very limited marketability. They can ***** all they want, BUT the customer decides what THEY want to watch or buy tickets too, and its extremely obvious that before Clark, and even now when she's out there is WAY, way less interest. When Clark was out the viewership dropped FIFTY%, and ticket prices plummeted below $10 in many cases. I'm not sure how much more clear that could be. Clark provided the league with an entertainment value unlike anything these past players collectively could offer, and they and the league office are doing their best to mute her talent into being "just another player". As Christine Brennen said in her book, and others have mentioned, the league has botched this horribly to this point. When Harry Edwards A black socialogist (who was behind the 1968 "black power movement" at the olympics), says the league did not prepare its players to handle the media and the CC effect, its says a lot. I'd bet we'll be taking about how bad they screwed the pooch on this one 20 years from now, when they're still bitching about be underpaid.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Kelly K just deactivated her twitter account because she was getting so much flak on Twitter after that video was posted.

It’s almost mind boggling the disconnect the Fever front office has. Do they really believe that the dramatic rise in Fever attendance, merchandise, tv ratings, etc is due to people’s interest in the Fever as a team? The 50% decline in viewership when CC was hurt should have made it clear to them what people are tuning in for. If CC left after her rookie contract, they would be right back to where they were before, with only 4-5000 fans for home games and abysmal tv ratings.

If you’re on Twitter, check out the comments in any of the recent posts by the Fever’s official account. Pretty much every comment is just ripping on White and the Fever FO.

She can ignore the fans as long as she wishes. She can't ignore the "Bottom Line" forever. Let the fans speak!

 

[Hawksfor3]

This. They just don't seem to really understand business at all. As good as some of the players were pre CC22, they just had very limited marketability. They can ***** all they want, BUT the customer decides what THEY want to watch or buy tickets too, and its extremely obvious that before Clark, and even now when she's out there is WAY, way less interest. When Clark was out the viewership dropped FIFTY%, and ticket prices plummeted below $10 in many cases. I'm not sure how much more clear that could be. Clark provided the league with an entertainment value unlike anything these past players collectively could offer, and they and the league office are doing their best to mute her talent into being "just another player". As Christine Brennen said in her book, and others have mentioned, the league has botched this horribly to this point. When Harry Edwards A black socialogist (who was behind the 1968 "black power movement" at the olympics), says the league did not prepare its players to handle the media and the CC effect, its says a lot. I'd bet we'll be taking about how bad they screwed the pooch on this one 20 years from now, when they're still bitching about be underpaid.

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[Hawksfor3]

Just incredible, this league is. Players are not "Ready for the media moment", jealousy, hatred, anger, and who knows what else. I'll bet there are a lot of players talking to coaches and management in the shadows all the time lol. Oh, and give them a raise. League needs a revamp. Where do you begin?

 

[LaQuintaHawk]

... the league has botched this horribly to this point. ...

 

[doughuddl2_rivals]

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

This is probably crazy talk given how good Atlanta is this year, and how inconsistent Indy has been playing, but at some point they are due to go off and I think this is the night. Caitlin goes for 30, 15, and 10. Please let this age well...

I've watched a lot of basketball in my time. I'm sure we all have. But I gotta tell ya being a player fan first and team fan second is pretty dang entertaining!

Watching Caitlin rolling around the floor like a pinball hitting the rebound bumper, then caroming a pass full-court for an easy bucket is like a triple-score to me.

I'll be crazy too, hoping Caitlin keeps the bells ringing and lights flashing all the way to a triple-double. Oh ... a win would be nice too.

 

[83Hawk]

This. They just don't seem to really understand business at all. As good as some of the players were pre CC22, they just had very limited marketability. They can ***** all they want, BUT the customer decides what THEY want to watch or buy tickets too, and its extremely obvious that before Clark, and even now when she's out there is WAY, way less interest. When Clark was out the viewership dropped FIFTY%, and ticket prices plummeted below $10 in many cases. I'm not sure how much more clear that could be. Clark provided the league with an entertainment value unlike anything these past players collectively could offer, and they and the league office are doing their best to mute her talent into being "just another player". As Christine Brennen said in her book, and others have mentioned, the league has botched this horribly to this point. When Harry Edwards A black socialogist (who was behind the 1968 "black power movement" at the olympics), says the league did not prepare its players to handle the media and the CC effect, its says a lot. I'd bet we'll be taking about how bad they screwed the pooch on this one 20 years from now, when they're still bitching about be underpaid.

The Fever and league as a whole seem intent on killing the golden goose. Maybe that’s what they want….to go back to the way things were.

They have probably the most phenomenal woman athlete EVER (as far as universal appeal and marketability), and they are wasting this once in a lifetime opportunity. As mentioned….without Clark, very few people care about the wnba.

 

[Hawksfor3]

I think clark is mentally drained. The whole league hates her. I even think there's players on the Fever who are jealous of her and play differently when she's on the court.
Her body language isn't the same. She doesn't look like she's even enjoying herself.

I also wonder if Bonner and Howard have had reservations about playing up tempo. If that was the case, then why were they picked up by the organization? Old Guard players still wanting to play old style ball. However, if White doesn't go back to Clark exclusively at the point, then why did KK say they wanted to build a roster around her to begin with? KK and White were never on the same page, unless White is getting pressure from an unknown source.

 

[2D]

My guess is the Fever lose by 10-15 today.

 

[Franisdaman]

Indiana Fever and WNBA are demonstrating a masters class in F’ing things up.

Books will be written about the dumba$$ train this team and league jumped on.

Christine Brennan has already written that book and it's a best seller. It came out on Tuesday.

And to say it's not kind to a LOT of these dumb a$$ women is an understatement.

See this thread:

Christine Brennan's book is out. "ON HER GAME: Caitlin Clark and the Revolution in Women’s Sports"

Christine is a USA Today columnist. She has covered Women's Olympic basketball since 1984 (41 years). She has covered the WNBA since it's inception (play began 28 years ago, in June, 1997). When you get 25 minutes, watch this:

www.on3.com

 

[Hawksfor3]

Bob Griner with a big elbow.

 

[doughuddl2_rivals]

Lexi needs a break. Damn!

 

[Hawksfor3]

Not a great start.

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

wtf is that buzzing noise on the feed? Also, not a great start.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[Manfredi]

Is Fran coaching this team?

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

Am I the only one hearing this feedback? It’s like a microphone is not plugged all the way into the jack.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Incredible how much space Atlanta is giving McDonald.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Incredible how much space Atlanta is giving McDonald.

Now that Clark's in, face guarding.

 

[Hawksfor3]

wtf is that buzzing noise on the feed? Also, not a great start.

I hear it too.

 

[namenoonechose]

Am I the only one hearing this feedback? It’s like a microphone is not plugged all the way into the jack.

I thought it was just the gummie I ate an hour ago. Phew.

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

I thought it was just the gummie I ate an hour ago. Phew.

Just popped one to mellow out

 

[hawkeyewx]

CC rarely gets open threes anymore. Defenders are all over her constantly. So, she gets frustrated and then throws up poor shots if she gets the slightest amount of space.

 

[Hawk48]

I continue to lose confidence in White as coach. She does not let players spend enough time as a unit on court to get in rhythm. JMO

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

I don’t understand why they continue to let people body check her.

 

[Hawk48]

IMO I do not think Clark believes in the White system and she is not happy.

 

[Hawksfor3]

That's the Dantas I like to see. The 3 ball.

 

[Chuck Norris’s Mustache]

Is Clark down to about 0.07% from 3 in the last 5 games?

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

Does not look good for rhyne.

 

[2D]

Man, Caitlin really has lost her 3. It is what it is I suppose. Guess she'll continue to struggle until she requests a trade when her contract is up or something.

 

[Tenacious E_rivals41982]

Is Clark down to about 0.07% from 3 in the last 5 games?

No