Cats adding the #1 Freshman in 2 weeks?

RalphDaltonFan

Heisman
Apr 3, 2002
60,264
41,756
113
Mintz should not be the starting point guard. Wheeler is one helluva a distributor
If we're being honest and it's been told to me several times by friend who has been at practices and seen this team play--Mintz shouldn't get much clock. If we're being honest. If we want to have a sentimental AARP CBB version player--then good luck with that.
 

RalphDaltonFan

Heisman
Apr 3, 2002
60,264
41,756
113
I am hoping Sharpe sits this year and plays next year. I think it will miss up the chemistry. He will be behind in condition and has not experienced any collage ball yet.
If he's on campus in next couple of weeks, he'll be working out with them and find his role. Ideally I agree with you but if your choice is he's with team and splits after a Semester....then give me getting him on the floor. We all had to sit through the nightmare which was '20 season, I have no sentimentality for anyone who was part of that team and can't earn mins. Mins need to be earned by how you play, not how long you've been here or how hard you work if you can't play. That starts with next week's exhibition game. If Mintz is starting the guys who have shown the best to this point aren't on the court. That comes from friend and those he knows who have seen some practices/workouts too.
 

Gassy_Knowls

Hall of Famer
Mar 24, 2019
19,034
102,980
0
If we're being honest and it's been told to me several times by friend who has been at practices and seen this team play--Mintz shouldn't get much clock. If we're being honest. If we want to have a sentimental AARP CBB version player--then good luck with that.

I agree. He looked kinda erratic tonight. Doesn't handle the ball well. Just needs to be a fill in shooter when he gets the ball and his look is open and feet set.
 

sa_hunt

All-Conference
Sep 2, 2009
3,042
2,822
0
Wheeler shot 23% from three last season for Georgia. 18/80 from three. The year before, he shot about 32% from three.

In two seasons for Georgia, he shot a combined 26% from three point range on 130 total attempts.
And you don't know a thing about basketball if you think Wheeler isn't playing. Wheeler will start and I'll take your money if you wanna bet on it.
 

RalphDaltonFan

Heisman
Apr 3, 2002
60,264
41,756
113
I agree. He looked kinda erratic tonight. Doesn't handle the ball well. Just needs to be a fill in shooter when he gets the ball and his look is open and feet set.
Yes--and he had open looks and threw up bricks. This team won't have time to leave a guy like this in to make everyone happy. He couldn't get them into any offense early in the game and the Blue Team would've taken it to about 25/30 by Half if Cal didn't change the teams up. The fact that we have several people who want to talk of Mintz "being a PG" means they ignore the fact he literally couldn't get them in offense, couldn't play with the ball at pace the team wants to play and teammates were suffering big time-how awful did Keion Brooks look with White team to start compared to when he moved over with Wheeler/TyTy?
 

rwbloomjr

Senior
Oct 20, 2017
203
594
93
If we're being honest and it's been told to me several times by friend who has been at practices and seen this team play--Mintz shouldn't get much clock. If we're being honest. If we want to have a sentimental AARP CBB version player--then good luck with that.
I thought Mintz and Grady underwhelmed tonight.

It looks like TyTy and Oscar separated themselves from the pack in the scrimmage. Add Sharpe and we have three elite players.

Regards
 

RalphDaltonFan

Heisman
Apr 3, 2002
60,264
41,756
113
I thought Mintz and Grady underwhelmed tonight.

It looks like TyTy and Oscar separated themselves from the pack in the scrimmage. Add Sharpe and we have three elite players.

Regards
Could see your take on Grady--but I liked how he moved without the ball and did a few good things. Made some shots off halfcourt sets and getting free. But I can see based on expectations why you lumped him in there.

If anyone wants to defend Mintz's play tonight. I'd love to know what they liked? He was terrible.
 
  • Like
Reactions: crxohio and jmp94

Son_Of_Saul

Hall of Famer
Dec 7, 2007
45,672
100,844
113
And you don't know a thing about basketball if you think Wheeler isn't playing. Wheeler will start and I'll take your money if you wanna bet on it.
I hope he plays. If he does, it means he is capable of running a real team. That would be good news for all of us.

But you were looking for a contentious pissing match, right? On a Friday night? Between grown men? On a message board? Over a roster projection?

You're a beacon of maturity, friend. Thank you for that.
 

sa_hunt

All-Conference
Sep 2, 2009
3,042
2,822
0
I thought Mintz and Grady underwhelmed tonight.

It looks like TyTy and Oscar separated themselves from the pack in the scrimmage. Add Sharpe and we have three elite players.

Regards
I thought Grady looked good, Mintz not so much. I think our lineup, if Sharpe comes, will be Wheeler, Washington, Sharpe, Grady and Oscar. With Hopkins, Toppin, Collins and Brooks off the bench. I think poor Mintz should get spot minutes. Frederick and Allen will be on the bench. Frederick because he won't be healthy it doesn't seem. Leaves Ware to give us 5 fouls.
 

ScottGreene22

Heisman
Mar 18, 2018
11,172
15,043
0
Mintz Grady Brooks are small pieces of the pie. If they need to be more then that we won’t be a Final 4 team.
 

JHannibalSmith

All-American
Sep 28, 2006
2,515
7,681
98
Yeah, this is the potential hazard of adding Sharpe.

The upside is that you might be adding a Kobe-level talent. If we could have added Tracey McGrady late to the 1998 team (in January, for example), you have to do it, even if it ticks off Heshimu Evans for a few weeks.
Absolutely. I’m in no way against adding Sharpe as long as he actually plays. I just think it would be in poor taste for his minutes to come at the expense of Grady. His situation is unique as a 6th year guy. I don’t think Grady should be guaranteed anything. But, camp is over & if he won the job it would be deflating, at best, to lose his starting spot to a guy who didn’t suffer thru camp & wasn’t even part of the equation when he committed. He has busted his *** all summer & could’ve gone anywhere else that he wanted & gotten all the shots & exposure he can handle, without the worry of an 11th hour addition at his position.

As a 6th year SR this is his last shot. IMO, it would be beyond wrong to pull the rug out from under him at the last minute, once Sharpe gets on campus. Sharpe should be our top option from day 1 but Grady shouldn’t lose his starting spot in the process, IMO. I just think someone else should sit.
 

rwbloomjr

Senior
Oct 20, 2017
203
594
93
Hopkins???
Really liked Hopkins....he also had 2 or 3 shots that should have dropped.

I think he's a mini-Jamal Mashburn. Strong, can handle, shoot a bit, skilled offensive repertoire....But Mash was better at all those things and more poised and polished. I don't think Hopkins is elite...but he can be for UK at some point.
 

Montana81

Heisman
Aug 12, 2004
82,726
29,410
113
I don’t think you can draw too many conclusions from a televised intra squad scrimmage. Cal was tinkering for one.

Some things are safe. oscar is obviously a great rebounder and physical presence around the basket. we have shooters… but there’s a lot of stuff…was it good offense or bad defense? i think a lot of guys looked real bad on defense tbh. oscar goes for too many pump fakes.

we didn’t have possibly the best shooter(cj) or best defender(toppin) available.
 

UKortho

Heisman
Oct 13, 2015
5,166
10,062
77
Really liked Hopkins....he also had 2 or 3 shots that should have dropped.

I think he's a mini-Jamal Mashburn. Strong, can handle, shoot a bit, skilled offensive repertoire....But Mash was better at all those things and more poised and polished. I don't think Hopkins is elite...but he can be for UK at some point.
I agree. He was confident and handled the ball fine given it was just a scrimmage. He definitely looks like he could be a great player.
 

SandyBell'sFaxMachine

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2020
1,518
2,435
113
What was the situation with Hami Diallo? Seems like he was eligible for the NBA draft after graduating and enrolling mid-season. The NBA let him declare for the draft.

I don't really get the sense that the NBA is too strict with their rules on draft eligibility. If it's a close call they let them declare. At least that's what it seems like to me. Is there a situation where a kid tried to declare and the NBA told him no?
Diallo graduated a year before the draft.
 

bgoad72

All-Conference
Apr 6, 2009
750
1,696
87
It seems you people aren’t realizing how good Sharpe actually is. If he plays this year, he’s UK’s best player by far and likely the best in the country. He’s that good. Everything else will work itself out.
Completely agree. If he comes early, once he is in shape/sync with the offense he doesn’t leave the court. Him, tyty, and oscar would be a formidable three. Let everyone else battle to see who plays with them. That team would have a lot of potential.
 

cats#1again

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2011
8,011
4,587
0
Wheeler shot 23% from three last season for Georgia. 18/80 from three. The year before, he shot about 32% from three.

In two seasons for Georgia, he shot a combined 26% from three point range on 130 total attempts.
He shot below 32% one time in his life. Last year . A team in which he was forced to take shots. All through highschool he was a decent shooter aswell. Go ahead and create an agenda though.
 

cats#1again

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2011
8,011
4,587
0
I thought Grady looked good, Mintz not so much. I think our lineup, if Sharpe comes, will be Wheeler, Washington, Sharpe, Grady and Oscar. With Hopkins, Toppin, Collins and Brooks off the bench. I think poor Mintz should get spot minutes. Frederick and Allen will be on the bench. Frederick because he won't be healthy it doesn't seem. Leaves Ware to give us 5 fouls.
Grady is smart, let's the game come to him, and will still get 14/16 by the end of the night. That's exactly what you want.
 

Son_Of_Saul

Hall of Famer
Dec 7, 2007
45,672
100,844
113
He shot below 32% one time in his life. Last year . A team in which he was forced to take shots. All through highschool he was a decent shooter aswell. Go ahead and create an agenda though.
I'm not creating an agenda. I like Wheeler. But statistical facts don't lie. He's a bad three point shooter. Hopefully he's improved from three point range. We will need him to make perimeter shots when he's out there.
 

Kerwinwaltonsafro

All-Conference
Jul 22, 2021
797
1,097
0
He shot below 32% one time in his life. Last year . A team in which he was forced to take shots. All through highschool he was a decent shooter aswell. Go ahead and create an agenda though.
40% is the baseline for being a good shooter from the college 3pt line.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tls

Kerwinwaltonsafro

All-Conference
Jul 22, 2021
797
1,097
0
So Quickly, Darius Miller, James Young were all bad shooters.

40% is baseline for being a great shooter.
A bad shooter is under 30%

A good shooter is over 40%

There are any number of adjectives you could use to describe guys who shoot between 30-40%. Average, solid, OK, mediocre... as the percentage decreases.
 

cats#1again

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2011
8,011
4,587
0
A bad shooter is under 30%

A good shooter is over 40%

There are any number of adjectives you could use to describe guys who shoot between 30-40%. Average, solid, OK, mediocre... as the percentage decreases.
To me it depends on what role the guy has and how many shots he's putting up.
 

crxohio

All-Conference
May 6, 2009
1,570
1,855
113
Take sharpe, let mintz find his role accordingly. He is seasoned enough to be able to do that. One would think? It's a win/win. We got a pretty solid team that can work towards a ncaat run. You add a superstar in the making, that run becomes reality!
 

UKortho

Heisman
Oct 13, 2015
5,166
10,062
77
I'm not creating an agenda. I like Wheeler. But statistical facts don't lie. He's a bad three point shooter. Hopefully he's improved from three point range. We will need him to make perimeter shots when he's out there.
During the shoot around Wheeker’s shot didn’t look that good to me. It’s early, fans were back, etc so that may have made an impact. Everything else about him was great just don’t see him shooting much from outside this year.
 

SmedMoley

All-American
Nov 14, 2020
3,690
7,959
0
Fine with this. I think it knocks Allen out of PT and CJs minutes down tho. Win #9 and then worry about #10 next year :)
I think Mintz loses minutes to Sharpe, too. And that's fine, as you say. Just win and it all sorts itself out
 

BlueGlasses12

All-Conference
Jul 30, 2016
1,609
2,319
0
If he comes he comes, I’d be massively disappointed if he doesn’t stick around for the following season. I’ve been supportive of the 1&D players, but I absolutely will not get behind someone coming mid year not playing a game and then going pro.