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I keep seeing these comparisons of Jacksonville to other teams. Kings Mountain, Huss, etc. The comparisons seem to be based on the fact they are high scoring teams. However, when you dig deep, none of them have the ground game or style of play of the Cards.

Jacksonville averaged over 300 yards running, Huss and Kings Mountain were under 200. Huss had one primary runner with just over 1,000 yards in 14 games. and the QB ran for 508 yards. KM had one back with just over 1,000 yards in 12 games and the QB had 780 yards running in 14 games

Jacksonville has a QB that ran for over 1100 yards in 12 games, a RB with 1200 yards in 11 games, and another RB with 906 yards in 11 games. JHS QB threw for 1,000 yards, KM QB threw for 3,000 yards, Huss' QB threw for 2425 yards.

They were QB oriented teams that heavily relied on that one player to pass and run the ball. Not much help from other RB's. Also tells me neither of those teams ran a two back option and the QB was primarily a drop back passer. Much easier for CC to pressure a QB with a good defense and control the clock when they are passing instead of running

CC defense will be facing a different animal with JHS. They are going to have to defend laterally instead of a straight forward push to collapse the pocket or get in the backfield. JHS is not a drop back passing team. They throw when it looks like it will be an option most of the time, so it's hard to tell that a pass is coming.

IMO, Havelock completely changed their offense from last year to this year in anticipation of playing CC in the championship game. They were a pass oriented team last year, relying on the QB to do pretty much everything, kind of like Huss and KM. They reversed their numbers this year, and became a run oriented team. They went from 277 yards passing and 192 yards rushing, to 182 yards passing and 294 yards rushing. Tells me JHS has the formula Havelock felt they needed to beat CC.

CC could be a complete beast on defense and shut down the Cards option running game, I just don't see it though. Sounds like we won't put up 300+ yards rushing, but we're going to break a few long ones that could go to the house.

Dude just stop damn man. Havelock had a QB last year that could pass the ball all over the field. Hence thw reason he went to college to play QB. They didn't have one this year, so the safety Harris going to Tennessee to PLAY SAFETY stepped in to play QB. Of course their not going to pass the ball he has not experience passing the ball hence the reason why they changed their offense, it's what any decent coach would do. But back to JHS, the QB is completing 45% of his throws. Not great at all. Rbs again are average. They won't scare anyone promise you that. Have you not been following this thread???? CC strength is stopping the run water boy. Their fans have repeatedly said to beat CC you will have to throw the ball, something JHS struggles with period. Leading wide out has 22 catches the whole year. He's a good player, JHS just doesn't pass the ball period. The three headed monster you speak of playing this deep into the playoffs should have over 1000 easy. You guys are down right delouisal period.
 

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You have really crossed the line with your constant bashing of the players (kids) make sure you have all your SWO gear on Saturday.

No, we aren’t stocked with D1 Players, Shrine-bowl or top 200 kids, just football players. They will line up and give it all they have. Yes, these kids are very excited about playing in the State Championship why shouldn’t they be? Rhetorical question = no need to reply.

Talk trash about the fans, the coaches, the city but don’t open that trashy mouth again about the kids.

Good Day Sir

Who's downing young kids dude. LoL are you that dumb tough guy. Just call it like it is. Small and slow nothing personal geez. Get your panties out of a wad. Your roommate at the barracks has been calling everyone out under the sun, which I'm fine with. His day will come
 
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Who's downing young kids dude. LoL are you that dumb tough guy. Just call it like it is. Small and slow nothing personal geez. Get your panties out of a wad. Your roommate at the barracks has been calling everyone out under the sun, which I'm fine with. His day will come

I’d like to sit and watch the game with you and get all of your feedback and analysis of what’s actually taking place. Sounds like you know a lot more about me Cards then I do. Shoot sounds like you know more about football .

BTW, Cards will run the ball!!! Well
 

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How long has jacksonville been 3A? I always remember them playing in the Wilmington schools conference.
Disclaimer: I am just asking a question, not a waterboy, team mom, player, clown, coach, parent, ex nfl ball player, medical professional, etc....
 
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jacksonville 38 catholic 27 in a hard fought game. good luck to both teams.

Dude, the most points this CC defense has given up all season is 24. I sure don't think they will give up 38 to Jacksonville. Now CC's offense might score 27, that is a realistic number. I am telling you that this CC defense is better than last season's defense. It is something to behold and you will not forget it once you see them in action. I for one am looking forward to the comments after this game about CC's defense.
 
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I’d like to sit and watch the game with you and get all of your feedback and analysis of what’s actually taking place. Sounds like you know a lot more about me Cards then I do. Shoot sounds like you know more about football .

BTW, Cards will run the ball!!! Well

LoL okay dude Saturday after the game make sure to check back on here. JHS will not run the ball well at ALLLLL
 

1SWO1

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How long has jacksonville been 3A? I always remember them playing in the Wilmington schools conference.
Disclaimer: I am just asking a question, not a waterboy, team mom, player, clown, coach, parent, ex nfl ball player, medical professional, etc....

LoL not sure think since 2009 these team dad's should have better answer. One just moved into the area the hall of famer player so not sure if he knows.
 
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RocketRex91

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Jacksonville was always huge...our bus got pelted with tomatoes when we went there. I also got hit in the head with a rock thrown from the stands playing left field there. Those were the days.
I also remember CC being really good in soccer.
Looks like i need to keep up.
 
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Dude just stop damn man. Havelock had a QB last year that could pass the ball all over the field. Hence thw reason he went to college to play QB. They didn't have one this year, so the safety Harris going to Tennessee to PLAY SAFETY stepped in to play QB. Of course their not going to pass the ball he has not experience passing the ball hence the reason why they changed their offense, it's what any decent coach would do. But back to JHS, the QB is completing 45% of his throws. Not great at all. Rbs again are average. They won't scare anyone promise you that. Have you not been following this thread???? CC strength is stopping the run water boy. Their fans have repeatedly said to beat CC you will have to throw the ball, something JHS struggles with period. Leading wide out has 22 catches the whole year. He's a good player, JHS just doesn't pass the ball period. The three headed monster you speak of playing this deep into the playoffs should have over 1000 easy. You guys are down right delouisal period.
They are led by quarterback Justin Benton 5 10, 180. Passing he's 64/138 for 1,092 yds and 15 touchdowns. His completion percentage is 46%. He's thrown 4 interceptions and has a rating of 97.9.

Rushing the ball, the Cardinals are led by Graham Brinker, a 5 9, 175lb senior running back. He's carried the ball 116 times for 1,202 yards and 18 touchdowns.

Also they have Justyn Benton the Cardinals' double threat quarterback. He's carried the ball 131 times for 1,109 yards and 15 touchdowns.

Also in the backfield, there's Kijier Finister. He's a 5 10, 200lb running back. He's rushed 101 times for 906 yards and 16 touchdowns.

Hey this is from your girlfriend MsSuzuki. Looks like she did some research. Nobody over a 1,000 yards huh? Last one is at 900 and sat out 3 games.
 

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jacksonville 38 catholic 27 in a hard fought game. good luck to both teams.

Jax scoring 38 points against CC defense....good luck with that. I think I'd lower my expectations a little to not be so disappointed. If Jax can score three times they've had a good day. Defense wins this game....
 
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I'll be at the game looking for what. You won't miss me there Hall of fame NFL played. Funniest **** I ever heard. Ill come find you.
Lmao!! Now that is the funniest **** ever! Your going to come find me and then what? So explain genius how easy it’s going to be able to spot you in a stadium full of people.. smh here we go with the keyboard tough guy bs again. Which a few post from now you will back off it. Let me guess you will be easy to spot just like you were at the NE game right? Lol
 
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Sweet, I didn’t realize we had all that. I’d say things are definitely looking up!!
Man isn’t my little pony 1swo1 isn’t that little philly funny? I mean she said a QB rating of 97.6 is horrible. Goes to show what the former GT Yellow Jacket and UNC medical school graduate really know about football... lol
 
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Man isn’t my little pony 1swo1 isn’t that little philly funny? I mean she said a QB rating of 97.6 is horrible. Goes to show what the former GT Yellow Jacket and UNC medical school graduate really know about football... lol

I’ve asked several times to sit together and watch the game Saturday with no reply. I’m excited for these kids they have worked hard and bought into the system.
Regardless what the pro’s up here say or think it will be a good game.

Go Cards!!
 
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I keep seeing these comparisons of Jacksonville to other teams. Kings Mountain, Huss, etc. The comparisons seem to be based on the fact they are high scoring teams. However, when you dig deep, none of them have the ground game or style of play of the Cards.

Jacksonville averaged over 300 yards running, Huss and Kings Mountain were under 200. Huss had one primary runner with just over 1,000 yards in 14 games. and the QB ran for 508 yards. KM had one back with just over 1,000 yards in 12 games and the QB had 780 yards running in 14 games

Jacksonville has a QB that ran for over 1100 yards in 12 games, a RB with 1200 yards in 11 games, and another RB with 906 yards in 11 games. JHS QB threw for 1,000 yards, KM QB threw for 3,000 yards, Huss' QB threw for 2425 yards.

They were QB oriented teams that heavily relied on that one player to pass and run the ball. Not much help from other RB's. Also tells me neither of those teams ran a two back option and the QB was primarily a drop back passer. Much easier for CC to pressure a QB with a good defense and control the clock when they are passing instead of running

CC defense will be facing a different animal with JHS. They are going to have to defend laterally instead of a straight forward push to collapse the pocket or get in the backfield. JHS is not a drop back passing team. They throw when it looks like it will be an option most of the time, so it's hard to tell that a pass is coming.

IMO, Havelock completely changed their offense from last year to this year in anticipation of playing CC in the championship game. They were a pass oriented team last year, relying on the QB to do pretty much everything, kind of like Huss and KM. They reversed their numbers this year, and became a run oriented team. They went from 277 yards passing and 192 yards rushing, to 182 yards passing and 294 yards rushing. Tells me JHS has the formula Havelock felt they needed to beat CC.

CC could be a complete beast on defense and shut down the Cards option running game, I just don't see it though. Sounds like we won't put up 300+ yards rushing, but we're going to break a few long ones that could go to the house. Also, I find it interesting that a pass oriented team like Huss managed to average 6 yards per carry in their loss to CC and Kings Mountain averaged 5.3 yards per carry. If Jacksonville, who has a much better running game can do that, it's going to be a long day for CC.
Say it ain’t so! You mean to tell me they averaged that much on the ground against the best defense in the state regardless of classification? Got to be a misprint. You mean to tell me the defense that nobody can run on gave up that many yards per carry?
 

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I keep seeing these comparisons of Jacksonville to other teams. Kings Mountain, Huss, etc. The comparisons seem to be based on the fact they are high scoring teams. However, when you dig deep, none of them have the ground game or style of play of the Cards.

Jacksonville averaged over 300 yards running, Huss and Kings Mountain were under 200. Huss had one primary runner with just over 1,000 yards in 14 games. and the QB ran for 508 yards. KM had one back with just over 1,000 yards in 12 games and the QB had 780 yards running in 14 games

Jacksonville has a QB that ran for over 1100 yards in 12 games, a RB with 1200 yards in 11 games, and another RB with 906 yards in 11 games. JHS QB threw for 1,000 yards, KM QB threw for 3,000 yards, Huss' QB threw for 2425 yards.

They were QB oriented teams that heavily relied on that one player to pass and run the ball. Not much help from other RB's. Also tells me neither of those teams ran a two back option and the QB was primarily a drop back passer. Much easier for CC to pressure a QB with a good defense and control the clock when they are passing instead of running

CC defense will be facing a different animal with JHS. They are going to have to defend laterally instead of a straight forward push to collapse the pocket or get in the backfield. JHS is not a drop back passing team. They throw when it looks like it will be an option most of the time, so it's hard to tell that a pass is coming.

IMO, Havelock completely changed their offense from last year to this year in anticipation of playing CC in the championship game. They were a pass oriented team last year, relying on the QB to do pretty much everything, kind of like Huss and KM. They reversed their numbers this year, and became a run oriented team. They went from 277 yards passing and 192 yards rushing, to 182 yards passing and 294 yards rushing. Tells me JHS has the formula Havelock felt they needed to beat CC.

CC could be a complete beast on defense and shut down the Cards option running game, I just don't see it though. Sounds like we won't put up 300+ yards rushing, but we're going to break a few long ones that could go to the house. Also, I find it interesting that a pass oriented team like Huss managed to average 6 yards per carry in their loss to CC and Kings Mountain averaged 5.3 yards per carry. If Jacksonville, who has a much better running game can do that, it's going to be a long day for CC.

Get a hobby
 
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I’ve asked several times to sit together and watch the game Saturday with no reply. I’m excited for these kids they have worked hard and bought into the system.
Regardless what the pro’s up here say or think it will be a good game.

Go Cards!!
Don’t worry bro he won’t. He will come back with oh I am sitting with my buddy whose kid plays for CC or I not coming to watch y’all get curved stomped Ashe likes to say. Or you will be able to spot him easily! But never tells you how. Lol same thing he said to NE fans.Lol they were calling him out at the game no response.
 
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Still trying to get a read on CC. Defensively, it really looks like one of their strengths is causing TO's, Mostly intereceptions though.

In their four playoff games they've caused 14 turnovers, with four in two of the games, and three in the other two. However, 11 of those turnovers are interceptions, with 3 interceptions in three of the games and 2 interceptions in the other. They've caused at least three turnovers in all their playoff games. Hard to overcome that many turnovers and beat CC.

But, they haven't caused that many fumbles all year, with 11 total for the year compared to 21 interceptions. Since the Cards don't pass much, it seems like they may avoid one of the biggest strengths of the CC defense.

In the 13 games listed on Maxpreps, CC has at least one interception in all but three games. They've had 2-3 interceptions in 8 of those 13 games.
 

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Still trying to get a read on CC. Defensively, it really looks like one of their strengths is causing TO's, Mostly intereceptions though.

In their four playoff games they've caused 14 turnovers, with four in two of the games, and three in the other two. However, 11 of those turnovers are interceptions, with 3 interceptions in three of the games and 2 interceptions in the other. They've caused at least three turnovers in all their playoff games. Hard to overcome that many turnovers and beat CC.

But, they haven't caused that many fumbles all year, with 11 total for the year compared to 21 interceptions. Since the Cards don't pass much, it seems like they may avoid one of the biggest strengths of the CC defense.

In the 13 games listed on Maxpreps, CC has at least one interception in all but three games. They've had 2-3 interceptions in 8 of those 13 games.

Let me help you out on your breakdown. They have played one of the toughest schedules in the state ( #35 by Simmons) and have given up less that a TD per game.

Teams pass more because they cant run and they are behind on the scoreboard. Thus the reason why they pass.
 

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Still trying to get a read on CC. Defensively, it really looks like one of their strengths is causing TO's, Mostly intereceptions though.

In their four playoff games they've caused 14 turnovers, with four in two of the games, and three in the other two. However, 11 of those turnovers are interceptions, with 3 interceptions in three of the games and 2 interceptions in the other. They've caused at least three turnovers in all their playoff games. Hard to overcome that many turnovers and beat CC.

But, they haven't caused that many fumbles all year, with 11 total for the year compared to 21 interceptions. Since the Cards don't pass much, it seems like they may avoid one of the biggest strengths of the CC defense.

In the 13 games listed on Maxpreps, CC has at least one interception in all but three games. They've had 2-3 interceptions in 8 of those 13 games.


You’re making this too hard. Just check the stat that says PA (points against). Right after that check SOS (strength of schedule). You’re welcome.
 

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JHS defense is not very good. Just look how many yards and points they have given up. JHS offense is good but not great. Oline is small and slow. These JHS guys are over hyping their team way to much. Their offense with all this speed and great skill, not one is top 200 in the state of NC, not one. Rbs and QB are small, quick not blazing fast as they keep saying it. I've seen JHS twice this year, wouldn't call the offense great by no means. CC fans just leave it alone these clowns aren't going away. They haven't been here in 25 years so don't understand What it takes to win a title. They go from not even showing up or giving the rings back if they win, to now saying their offense best in the nation. Passing game below average and running game one dimensional at best. CC 24+

Doesn’t take a great defense in my opinion. Nothing i have seen out of CC impressed me on offense. They just play ball control and run it 80% of the time. I seen them play in person once and have watched some stuff on hudl. I was telling the buddy I went with to watch game which way they were running on a ton of the plays before hand. Very easily read offensive play call and the big back they have doesn’t run to his ability at all, #2 does a better job. Catholic controls the line of scrimmage and wears people down. Their offense is nothing special at all, you just gotta sustain drives to keep you defense fresh and that’s exactly why I say they are beatable. I could give a rip less who wins this game I’m just calling it like I see bud. No need to convince me that you think Jax sucks like you’re trying to do to everyone. No they may not be on the caliber as CC but by gah they are playing for the state championship and you don’t do that by fluke. Maybe they haven’t been here in 25 years but guess what, they are this year!
 
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Doesn’t take a great defense in my opinion. Nothing i have seen out of CC impressed me on offense. They just play ball control and run it 80% of the time. I seen them play in person once and have watched some stuff on hudl. I was telling the buddy I went with to watch game which way they were running on a ton of the plays before hand. Very easily read offensive play call and the big back they have doesn’t run to his ability at all, #2 does a better job. Catholic controls the line of scrimmage and wears people down. Their offense is nothing special at all, you just gotta sustain drives to keep you defense fresh and that’s exactly why I say they are beatable. I could give a rip less who wins this game I’m just calling it like I see bud. No need to convince me that you think Jax sucks like you’re trying to do to everyone. No they may not be on the caliber as CC but by gah they are playing for the state championship and you don’t do that by fluke. Maybe they haven’t been here in 25 years but guess what, they are this year!

I’d say the Cards have earned this trip and are very capable of winning the game.
 
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Still trying to get a read on CC. Defensively, it really looks like one of their strengths is causing TO's, Mostly intereceptions though.

In their four playoff games they've caused 14 turnovers, with four in two of the games, and three in the other two. However, 11 of those turnovers are interceptions, with 3 interceptions in three of the games and 2 interceptions in the other. They've caused at least three turnovers in all their playoff games. Hard to overcome that many turnovers and beat CC.

But, they haven't caused that many fumbles all year, with 11 total for the year compared to 21 interceptions. Since the Cards don't pass much, it seems like they may avoid one of the biggest strengths of the CC defense.

In the 13 games listed on Maxpreps, CC has at least one interception in all but three games. They've had 2-3 interceptions in 8 of those 13 games.

It’s not a hard read actually, when you have to pass they got you!! Then you start throwing into the coverage and they make plays. Offense isn’t that impressive actually 42 will find a way to get open.
 
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Doesn’t take a great defense in my opinion. Nothing i have seen out of CC impressed me on offense. They just play ball control and run it 80% of the time. I seen them play in person once and have watched some stuff on hudl. I was telling the buddy I went with to watch game which way they were running on a ton of the plays before hand. Very easily read offensive play call and the big back they have doesn’t run to his ability at all, #2 does a better job. Catholic controls the line of scrimmage and wears people down. Their offense is nothing special at all, you just gotta sustain drives to keep you defense fresh and that’s exactly why I say they are beatable. I could give a rip less who wins this game I’m just calling it like I see bud. No need to convince me that you think Jax sucks like you’re trying to do to everyone. No they may not be on the caliber as CC but by gah they are playing for the state championship and you don’t do that by fluke. Maybe they haven’t been here in 25 years but guess what, they are this year!

He doesn’t think we suck he jealous he has to wear orange?!!
 

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Think its cute how you guys are all breaking down hudl films and talking yourself into a win. " Offense doesnt impress me", " Defense only gets interceptions", " Running back doesnt play to his ability", " All ya gotta do is sustain drives" ( last one is my favorite)

They are 58-3 over the last 4 years with 4 straight title appearances. They have been beaten by only 2 teams. Your right.....all ya gotta do is sustain drives!!

Better get back to those Hudl films...LMAO
 

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Think its cute how you guys are all breaking down hudl films and talking yourself into a win. " Offense doesnt impress me", " Defense only gets interceptions", " Running back doesnt play to his ability", " All ya gotta do is sustain drives" ( last one is my favorite)

They are 58-3 over the last 4 years with 4 straight title appearances. They have been beaten by only 2 teams. Your right.....all ya gotta do is sustain drives!!

Better get back to those Hudl films...LMAO
This post makes the post highlight reel.
 
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Lol this post is hilarious... I'm gonna keep it real with yall, being we(Havelock) played both teams. I understand that anything can happen in a game and any given Sunday, Sat, or Fri any team can win but Jville will have to play a completely different game than they are used to playing and it will have to be the best game they played all yr and then sum to beat CC. Jville starts off too slow sum games, u do that and the game is over b4 u knew it started. We looked at film and saw this team and thought the same thing Jville fans think right now, it ain't gonna go the way u think it will lol. If yall think u gonna have enough plays to score 30, u are delusional. Think u gonna just run that option all game and win, delusional. Think your QB can throw for 20 yards, get a halfback pass, and a bunch of turnovers against this team and win, delusional. Think u can get behind on the scoreboard and have a great 2nd half comeback, I'm sorry to tell yall it wont happen. You gonna leave this game with the same shock we left with last yr, how the hell did a team with 11 white guys on defense do this to all these athletes we have lmao!!! Sorry, just speaking facts, but carry on with yall convo lol
 

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Think its cute how you guys are all breaking down hudl films and talking yourself into a win. " Offense doesnt impress me", " Defense only gets interceptions", " Running back doesnt play to his ability", " All ya gotta do is sustain drives" ( last one is my favorite)

They are 58-3 over the last 4 years with 4 straight title appearances. They have been beaten by only 2 teams. Your right.....all ya gotta do is sustain drives!!

Better get back to those Hudl films...LMAO


LOL sorry man didn’t realize that I wasn’t allowed to state what my thoughts are? Never said it like it would be easy to do, just my thoughts? What I find real cute is how people act like CC hung the moon. Every team will lose at some point and guess what buddy, there will be some formula that beats them. Also, I never stated I was “breaking down hudl film” I just watched some highlights on there to see what all the talk was about before I seen it in person.
 
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