Cason Wallace Comment

LowCountryCat

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As long as he balls out, plays hard, I don’t care. Does anyone truly think they really want to be in college? This level of athlete wants to be in the NBA.
Yeah. We should abolish all classes. Just rename UK to the Sports Club of Kentucky and just do sports only.
 

Lempface

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You have to have some kind of identity and a good system. We don’t have that with Cal. He just recruits by stars and NBA potential. There’s all kinds of programs doing this right now: Arizona, Gonzaga, duke, Baylor, Villanova, Kansas, etc.
Duke is loaded w/ one and dones this year and next. Gonzaga has had several as well, can't close the deal even with superior talent. It took Scott Drew ~20 years. Arizona hasn't won since 97 or been to the FF since 2001. Nova we've discussed. Kansas while incredibly consistent, is in a nearly identical situation as us right now. 1 Championship and a ton of close calls.
 

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I agree Pitino did GREAT here. But it was a different era. NBA didn't really take one and dones.

We don't get 2 years of Antoine Walker or Ron Mercer nowadays.

We have no prayer of 4 years from guys like Delk, McCarty

What Ricky P did in 5 years was incredible and my gracious do I miss those days

I am tired of Cal's coaching, but he also built a behemoth of a team in his third year. The one his fifth wasn't too bad either. Maybe I just talked myself out of the argument here. Maybe a good coach can build fast here, it's happened 2 of the last 4 we got.
Even Tubby had great teams from 2003-2005. Hell of a lot of talent in 2002, but had internal issues. He just didn’t like the recruiting aspect or he could’ve had monster teams.
 
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KentuckyStout

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Amazing how many of our own fans are defending this absolute bullshyt.

"Get out of there as soon as possible" = a kid like that will ultimately wilt when the time comes...he will be the one at the free throw line that shoots a brick or misses a lose ball or rebound or makes a turnover against an undersized guard that nobody has ever heard of that is playing like his life is on the line.

He's the one that get's a three pointer buried right in his stupid face as time expires by some skinny white boy from New Jersey that will be hoisting a trophy before going pro in something other than basketball.

After the season ending game he will sit in an interview with some dumb blank look on his face waiting for it to all be over so he can go get that money. He won't give the slightest **** about Kentucky or it's fans or give Kentucky another thought after that.

That's why this **** matters you boneheads defending this garbage. Keep buying into it.

"Kentucky fans want the best players" - Kentucky fans want players that share their pride in and buy into the program and want to sell out to win freaking championships here.

"Get out of there as soon as possible" - lol, literally the worst thing a kid can say at the worst possible time.
 

LowCountryCat

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Our fanbase is incredibly impatient and would ***** and moan about how the four star players weren't playing lights out basketball halfway through their freshman year. Our fanbase wants elite 5 star talent but wants them to stay for multiple years. Fans will complain when elite talent leaves early and also complain when multi year players aren't elite talent. It's a no win situation.
Everything you just said is completely false. The "fanbase" doesn't want those things. The "fanbase" represents the majority of fans, and those fans want consistent results and are tired of the one and done. We'd rather see 2-4 year players so we can actually have time to learn their names. We recognize that due to Cal's coaching flaws, the only way we can win consistently with one and dones is to have the top elite talent, because he can't coach lesser freshmen past the first round anymore. If Cal can't bring in the top elite talent, we'd rather see him build and develop a team over a period of time, with a sprinkling of talent, experience, and of course the transfer portal. Yes we had that this year, but we've litigated the reasons for our early exit from the tournament ad nauseum and I'm not going to go into that again.
 
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UK90

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He was asked about him and Livingstons goals at UK and said "we want to go far into our college season and get out of there as soon as possible" LMAO UK has become a joke as far as whether our players even want to be here. I get that they all have dreams of playing in the NBA but my lord. About 3 min mark if you want to watch.

Wow, not even trying to fake it anymore. It’s been obvious for years that this is how today’s hot shot freshman see UK …but they used to at least pretend that they wanted to be here.

I must say, it’s not as much fun cheering for players who only see UK as an unwanted pit stop they must take to get somewhere else. I’ll always be a CBB fan, because it’s in my blood, but I’m not sure I would if growing up today. The sport today is far less likable then the version that hooked me years ago.
 

Lempface

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Amazing how many of our own fans are defending this absolute bullshyt.

"Get out of there as soon as possible" = a kid like that will ultimately wilt when the time comes...he will be the one at the free throw line that shoots a brick or misses a lose ball or rebound or makes a turnover against an undersized guard that nobody has ever heard of that is playing like his life is on the line.

He's the one that get's a three pointer buried right in his stupid face as time expires by some skinny white boy from New Jersey that will be hoisting a trophy before going pro in something other than basketball.

After the season ending game he will sit in an interview with some dumb blank look on his face waiting for it to all be over so he can go get that money. He won't give the slightest **** about Kentucky or it's fans or give Kentucky another thought after that.

That's why this **** matters you boneheads defending this garbage. Keep buying into it.

"Kentucky fans want the best players" - Kentucky fans want players that share their pride in and buy into the program and want to sell out to win freaking championships here.

"Get out of there as soon as possible" - lol, literally the worst thing a kid can say at the worst possible time.
While all that is certainly possible, it isn't cemented and you aren't some soothsayer who has an inside peek inside of Wallace's psyche. He's a kid who probably didn't know you should keep those comments closer to the vest to not set off fans like you, but it doesn't mean he won't give it his absolute all here and love his time here. Judge him for his coming actions not because you think you can see the future.
 

Patriot202

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UK program is our tradition & we strive or success but a stepping stone to most of these guys
 

KentuckyStout

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While all that is certainly possible, it isn't cemented and you aren't some soothsayer who has an inside peek inside of Wallace's psyche.

lol, I don't have to be a soothsayer, whatever the hell that means...the kid opened his mouth and gave us all a peak right into his psyche all by himself.

Worst thing he could say, at the worst possible time. None of us are in the mood for it.
 

Lempface

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lol, I don't have to be a soothsayer, whatever the hell that means...the kid opened his mouth and gave us all a peak right into his psyche all by himself.

Worst thing he could say, at the worst possible time. None of us are in the mood for it.
The kid isn't worried about what you feel, sorry you think you deserve more from him.
 
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catswin

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These kids are all one and dones. They know they will only be here for one year. Just because he said he wants to move on ASAP doesn't mean he is not going to fight til the final whistle,

I went to college and had a blast, but from day one, I was looking forward to the day I was out of there.
 
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tls

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The only reason those kids stay is because they aren't good enough for the NBA or have a different preferred career. If they were lotto picks they'd go too.
Some schools don’t seem to have the same issue or maybe they’re recruiting guys who aren’t ready and know it.

Wasn’t Bacot highly regarded and now a junior? Wasn’t Love highly regarded?

I guess today you don’t have to recruit guys that aren’t ready if you can raid the portal every year and get the guys who have blossomed somewhere else.

Makes Cal’s job a little harder since in theory he now has to fit pieces together to make a team, which he has not shown to be a strength.

It begs the question, if a guy’s goal is NBA asap then is he really interested in winning or just getting his? Of course, Cal gets held hostage by these types whether he likes to admit it or not.

It’s too late for Cal. He doesn’t want to put in the work, but he talks a hell of a game.
 
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LowCountryCat

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Wow, not even trying to fake it anymore. It’s been obvious for years that this is how today’s hot shot freshman see UK …but they used to at least pretend that they wanted to be here.

I must say, it’s not as much fun cheering for players who only see UK as an unwanted pit stop they must take to get somewhere else. I’ll always be a CBB fan, because it’s in my blood, but I’m not sure I would if growing up today. The sport today is far less likable then the version that hooked me years ago.
My fear is that he'll get booed in a home game if he starts performing poorly. That would be ugly. These guys need to get a clue.
 

BigBlueFan19

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I wish he’d decommit now. We need a coach who builds teams with 2-4 year players and one that runs an structured offense. I have no problem with man to man defense, I’m not a fan of zone.

I remember we would have rebuilding years but I still prefer that system over this nonsense!
 

LowCountryCat

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I wish he’d decommit now. We need a coach who builds teams with 2-4 year players and one that runs an structured offense. I have no problem with man to man defense, I’m not a fan of zone.

I remember we would have rebuilding years but I still prefer that system over this nonsense!
@ukcatz12 This is what the "fanbase" wants.
 

STL_Cat

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It's one thing to say "my goal is to go there, and improve my game, win as many games as possible, and when I am ready prepare myself for the next level and take the next step." It's an entirely different thing to say "get out of there as soon as possible." You guys might think that's just semantics, but at the very least it just is a bad look. Really bad mindset imo.

Honestly it kind of seemed out of nowhere based on the question he was asked, too. Like, umm okay dude that's not even what I asked. But bye in advance I guess.
 

Lempface

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Hey everybody it’s Cason Wallace and I’m excited right now because not only is it my 18th birthday but I also just committed to Kentucky!

I chose Kentucky for a lot of different reasons; I built a close relationship with Coach Jai Lucas; he’d been recruiting me for a while. When I went there, I loved everything about the vibe, and I knew that everybody really wanted me to be there.

I remember the exact moment that I knew that it was Kentucky; I was sitting down talking to my parents going over pros and cons and it just became more and more obvious that Kentucky was the clear choice.

My parents just looked at me and said, “This is what you’ve dreamed of, they’ve got all of it; why not make your dreams a reality.”

That was it!

After that I called Coach Lucas first and we FaceTimed Coach (John) Calipari and they were just really happy!

Coach Cal was actually surprised, but he was just happy the whole time we were on the phone.

It was a cool moment.

It’s crazy to be in a class with Shaedon (Sharpe), Skyy (Clark) and Chris (Livingston) because I’ve played against all of them for years on the circuit. Now, we’ll be together against other people, and I know that’s gonna be tough because they’re all tough to play against.

I think we all have winning mentalities and I feel like we have a strong chance to win a national title. I know that’s already our goal now because we know what we signed up for coming to Kentucky.

I just look at all of the talent that we’ll have, and I love that we’ll be able to push each other in practice every day, because that’s the way you really get better.

The coaches talked to me about being a position-less player, and a guy that can play both guard positions and just stay in attack mode on both ends of the floor.

I love that role. I like the freedom of it.

I’m relieved to have this decision out of the way because now I can lock in on the season. I can be freer with what I say and how I talk to people now too. I don’t have to watch what I say because all of that news is out now.

OK, I want to thank you guys for tuning in and thanks to all of the coaches who recruited me and saw something in me. I really do appreciate that.

Thanks to Sports Illustrated for letting me break down my thoughts and my decision too!

Lex and BBN, I’ll see you soon!
 
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JwUKFan11

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Wow, not even trying to fake it anymore. It’s been obvious for years that this is how today’s hot shot freshman see UK …but they used to at least pretend that they wanted to be here.

I must say, it’s not as much fun cheering for players who only see UK as an unwanted pit stop they must take to get somewhere else. I’ll always be a CBB fan, because it’s in my blood, but I’m not sure I would if growing up today. The sport today is far less likable then the version that hooked me years ago.
It’s one thing to think internally that they want to make it to the NBA as soon as possible. But this mindset where they haven’t even stepped on campus and have no desire to just see how the first year goes and make sure they are ready is striking.
 

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Yeah, I really miss the way the bracket used to shake out for the NCAA tennis tournament. Jim Nantz was amazing calling those matches back in the day. What a spectacle! Woohoo Tennis!
Great sport. On a side note are only full of sarcasm? Think about it.
 

Ron Mehico

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It’s a very disappointing response for a Kentucky fan. It just is. We want people to take pride and enjoy being a UK bball player. His answer indicated very little enthusiasm to play at UK, whether he meant it to come across like that or not.
 

Lempface

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It’s a very disappointing response for a Kentucky fan. It just is. We want people to take pride and enjoy being a UK bball player. His answer indicated very little enthusiasm to play at UK, whether he meant it to come across like that or not.
I don't disagree with this, but it's just the case with high level basketball players these days. You can long for the days of yore but they aren't coming back. If it's that much of a drain and you don't enjoy it as much as you used to, maybe just be a casual fan.
 

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How dare a a player have aspirations to want to play in the NBA and to go to a school that allows those dreams to come true...FAR CAL!!!! I guess we don't want future NBA players anymore? POsters cry when talented athletes go to other schools and then we cry when we get players who are talented to want to play in the NBA...

It is pretty hilarious to see posters latch onto anything of significance in an attempt to further their agenda.
 
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Ron Mehico

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I don't disagree with this, but it's just the case with high level basketball players these days. You can long for the days of yore but they aren't coming back. If it's that much of a drain and you don't enjoy it as much as you used to, maybe just be a casual fan.
You can try and twist and articulate whatever point you’re trying to prove, but saying “get out of there” does not imply a positive connotation. Saying “come to Kentucky and get **** right” as Eric Bledsoe said was a nice answer. Really anything other than literally putting the school down would have been nice.
 

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How dare a a player have aspirations to want to play in the NBA and to go to a school that allows those dreams to come true...FAR CAL!!!! I guess we don't want future NBA players anymore? POsters cry when talented athletes go to other schools and then we cry when we get players who are talented to want to play in the NBA...

It is pretty hilarious to see posters latch onto anything of significance in an attempt to further their agenda.
Thanks Rex. Don’t you have some fake tweets to go post and act like they’re legit?
 

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How dare a a player have aspirations to want to play in the NBA and to go to a school that allows those dreams to come true...FAR CAL!!!! I guess we don't want future NBA players anymore? POsters cry when talented athletes go to other schools and then we cry when we get players who are talented to want to play in the NBA...

It is pretty hilarious to see posters latch onto anything of significance in an attempt to further their agenda.
Rex, most fans realize what's going on with 1AD's and their NBA aspirations. Some of us have for several decades. But kids saying things like this before they even get here is just bad PR for fans that revere the program and what it means to them. There needs to some reciprocity for providing the opportunity play here.
 

LowCountryCat

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How dare a a player have aspirations to want to play in the NBA and to go to a school that allows those dreams to come true...FAR CAL!!!! I guess we don't want future NBA players anymore? POsters cry when talented athletes go to other schools and then we cry when we get players who are talented to want to play in the NBA...

It is pretty hilarious to see posters latch onto anything of significance in an attempt to further their agenda.
Brandon Knight went to the NBA.

He also did this. Why can't we have both?

 

Lempface

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You can try and twist and articulate whatever point you’re trying to prove, but saying “get out of there” does not imply a positive connotation. Saying “come to Kentucky and get **** right” as Eric Bledsoe said was a nice answer. Really anything other than literally putting the school down would have been nice.
He's 18, he doesn't understand or care about that nuance.
 

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You can try and twist and articulate whatever point you’re trying to prove, but saying “get out of there” does not imply a positive connotation. Saying “come to Kentucky and get **** right” as Eric Bledsoe said was a nice answer. Really anything other than literally putting the school down would have been nice.
Seriously. It didn't even really fit with the question that was asked, it kind of came out of nowhere which was more WTF? inducing. The guy asked him what he and Livingston were talking about what they planned to do when they got to Kentucky and his 2nd answer was "get out of there as soon as possible".

I understand some people have gone over the top with the negativity, but you really have to bend yourself into a pretzel to not hear this and go WTF?
 

Ron Mehico

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He's 18, he doesn't understand or care about that nuance.

I don’t understand what you’re arguing. You seem to be saying it wasn’t a good answer, yes? Is that what this comment implies? That he doesn’t care or that an 18 year old doesn’t understand saying “get out of there” is not a positive way to talk about a place (which I disagree with)? So then you agree with the people posting here? So what are you arguing?
 

UKWildcats1987

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I would take Bobby Perry type players over this kid any day of the week. He may not have been a pro talent, but he tried/cared and won tournament games. More then I can say for the kids now.

If we had a team full of Bobby Perry's we would win 8-10 games a season. You might be happy about that, but do not think most UK fans (aka all others, other than you) would be IMO.
 
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Lempface

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I don’t understand what you’re arguing. You seem to be saying it wasn’t a good answer, yes? Is that what this comment implies? That he doesn’t care or that an 18 year old doesn’t understand saying “get out of there” is not a positive way to talk about a place (which I disagree with)? So then you agree with the people posting here? So what are you arguing?
Just don't understand why everyone is all up in arms about a statement a kid made.