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It's way more of an issue than that.

People the rift between Cal and Nike started this issue. Who knows why.

Changing assistants is not the main issue and probably why Cal hasnt replaced Barbee.
I think the Nike rift started because UK didn't want to play a tournament on the West Coast celebrating Phil Knights birthday. Nike got bent out of shape about it. We should drop Nike. They pump so much money into Oregon it's ridiculous. Kentucky gets table scraps compared to what Nike gives the Ducks. We could do better with Adidas and probably even Under Armour.
 

jrm693

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The next thing will probably be, Cal will do like Billy D and head to NBA to finish his career, something has changed, and as he said, and I don't blame him "I have to able to sleep at night"
 

morgousky

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Can you elaborate on the uk Nike thing?

The Cal and Nike rift starter before the PKI. That was a result of something imo, not the cause. It's been downhill since. I dont think anyone knows why. Probably had to do with Cal not liking Nike acting against him with players he'd have in the bag during any other decade.

Zion is a Cal player. Bagley is a Cal player. Wiggins was a Cal player. Ayton is a Cal player.

And none have played for Cal.

Nike and Adidas.
 
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I thought fans were saying we need to get away from the one and done. Looks like we are headed that way.
If we could get players to stay, for example someone like Azibuke from KU, we'd be a lot better off, however, kids are leaving that should not. OAD is ok if you're getting top 5 recruits but that's not happening anymore.
 

kevcat

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Keldon is the only one.
Our guards are average and our bigs are not going to somehow become athletic freaks by March.
But by the time KJ shows his true potential he'll be long gone from here.
Jeff, I have to be totally honest here. I haven’t been overwhelmed YET by Keldon Johnson.

As of right now, he looks like a solid player, a good, athletic guy, who has some ability. I just don’t see a first round pick as of now. Maybe I’m missing something.

I’m probably way off here, because everyone I bring this up to disagrees.
 

kyjeff1

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Jeff, I have to be totally honest here. I haven’t been overwhelmed YET by Keldon Johnson.

As of right now, he looks like a solid player, a good, athletic guy, who has some ability. I just don’t see a first round pick as of now. Maybe I’m missing something.
I am not overwhelmed by him either, in fact, our entire team has been very underwhelming at damn near every aspect of the game.
But with Keldon, you can see he has top 10 potential, just not top 5.
Something is definitely off, all of our guys have obviously worked hard over the summer, but perhaps they weren't workng on the things that apply to winning basketball on the court.
I mean, I haven't seen a team in the current top 25 that I would say we can beat.
 

UKGrad93

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All this started with Skal Labissière. First real flop of a big man for UK. Hasn’t been good ever since.
 
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kevcat

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I am not overwhelmed by him either, in fact, our entire team has been very underwhelming at damn near every aspect of the game.
But with Keldon, you can see he has top 10 potential, just not top 5.
Something is definitely off, all of our guys have obviously worked hard over the summer, but perhaps they weren't workng on the things that apply to winning basketball on the court.
I mean, I haven't seen a team in the current top 25 that I would say we can beat.
I couldn’t agree more with your post. I think we have enough potential to be dangerous by March.
However, I’m not as confident about that as I once was.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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This is UK, yes, we think all 4 are going to leave. They all have NBA potential and theur shelf lives are short, so they know they better go as soon as that door cracks open.
Shelf lives are short for athletes, no doubt. I think both are still under 20.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Totally agree. I think we’re going to be a solid offensive team, but my God, we’re so bad defensively it’s frightening.
Cal may have to go zone if it doesn't improve. Not sure why he wouldn't really. It ain't like teams are not hitting a bunch of 3's anyhow. At least stop the straight line drives that has killed them so far.
 
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kevcat

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Cal may have to go zone if it doesn't improve. Not sure why he wouldn't really. It ain't like teams are not hitting a bunch of 3's anyhow. At least stop the straight line drives that has killed them so far.
Very good points.
 
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kyjeff1

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I couldn’t agree more with your post. I think we have enough potential to be dangerous by March.
However, I’m not as confident about that as I once was.
Same here.
My only differing opinion is what I think we will be in March.
To me, this looks like one of those teams that will finish the SEC strong, give us hope, then lose to a team they should beat, just like last year, the year before that (#Higgins) and the year before that and so on.
 
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morgousky

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Jeff, I have to be totally honest here. I haven’t been overwhelmed YET by Keldon Johnson.

As of right now, he looks like a solid player, a good, athletic guy, who has some ability. I just don’t see a first round pick as of now. Maybe I’m missing something.

I’m probably way off here, because everyone I bring this up to disagrees.

You haven’t been overwhelmed with Johnson because........drum roll....gif.....or not......

He’s not a OAD type, he’s a freshman, and he’s offensively behind.

Cal is not an offensive coach, it doesn’t help that he’s so vanilla.

He’s young, in a system easy to prepare for, and isn’t a star.

= Johnson.
 
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ck-2

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Guess we know why Cal said he’s overrated as a recruiter yesterday. Going to have to coach the guys he’s got now.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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I wish some reporter would grow a pair and ask Cal why he thinks Nike is funneling guys to Duke.

Be provocative for once. Our media in Kentucky is so humdrum, boring, and pathetically predictable with their unimaginative questions.
 

Justsny92

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I wish some reporter would grow a pair and ask Cal why he thinks Nike is funneling guys to Duke.

Be provocative for once. Our media in Kentucky is so humdrum, boring, and pathetically predictable with their unimaginative questions.

Yeah because thats a question that will get a response.....
 

144catfan

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Maybe that’s what Cal is doing. He has been saying the G League won’t affect the players we are getting. And it won’t now because those players making the jump will be top 5.

Cal is always ahead of the game.
Absolutely delirious!!! Currently Cal is about 3 years behind the game in both recruiting and coaching.
 
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Cal’s pitch is dead and some of y’all need to swallow your pride and admit it. We’ll be lucky to finish as a ranked team this year and next year won’t be any better.
 

TomTraubertsBlues

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Ok, we know Cal didn't forget how to recruit, so what is going on? It's got to be something. That many misses after the way he was recruiting is due to something specific. I wish I knew what it is.
 

26MichaelUK

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If you want to win a title it’s time to get worried.... cal hasn’t made a final four at U.K. without a top 10 big .... Jones, Davis, Randle and Towns
And Pitino was 11-0 in the Sweet 16...until we beat them in the 2014 sweet 16. Point being, "blank has never happened with or without blank", until it happens. But I'm sure you were able to ascertain my point with the Pitino analogy.
 

JC43

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Cal’s pitch is dead and some of y’all need to swallow your pride and admit it. We’ll be lucky to finish as a ranked team this year and next year won’t be any better.
I call ********. Remember last season? You can see the potential of this team. PJ and Reid are solid, quade has improved, Keldon is solid and herro,q, and Hagans are coming along...each showed above avg ability at times. It's November. Our team is the most complete since 2015 at all positions. Once the freshmen break through that exhaustion wall, they will be unbelievable. Like Cal said, we played 24 minutes today. When we were playing you saw the future of this team will play. Noone will be able to hang with us down low. Othe than that horrible 1st game, our team were put in situations where teams of the past would of folded. We can manufacture points like 2015 team...we are weak in defense which is something we can fix with more gametime.
19 3's and still won, we never folded or hung their heads. It didn't affect their ft shooting. We CAN close games finally
I've been waiting for this...
Don't worry what we can't control.
I still believe this team is at least a final 4 team, maybe NC.
PJ and Reid are a tandem, add Herro to that we will be unstoppable.
Once the freshmen "get" it, watch out!
Cal always gets us recruits...we have 3 great ones on deck, will pick up 3 more watch and see
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Really looking forward to bumping this post at the end of the year. If I'm wrong I'll bump it myself to show I was wrong.

We'll get bigs.... but will they be great players capable of carrying the load down low for a title contender?
 

Jeff Sykes

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We will get ours


Haven't seen it in the last few years. We have been getting plan C and plan D players. Cal needs to look at staff changes because they clearly are not getting the job done. KP is the only keeper in the whole bunch. He needs to quit hiring his buddies and hire someone who is qualified and a great recruiter. Ever since Antigua left Cal's recruiting has suffered.
 
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I call ********. Remember last season? You can see the potential of this team. PJ and Reid are solid, quade has improved, Keldon is solid and herro,q, and Hagans are coming along...each showed above avg ability at times. It's November. Our team is the most complete since 2015 at all positions. Once the freshmen break through that exhaustion wall, they will be unbelievable. Like Cal said, we played 24 minutes today. When we were playing you saw the future of this team will play. Noone will be able to hang with us down low. Othe than that horrible 1st game, our team were put in situations where teams of the past would of folded. We can manufacture points like 2015 team...we are weak in defense which is something we can fix with more gametime.
19 3's and still won, we never folded or hung their heads. It didn't affect their ft shooting. We CAN close games finally
I've been waiting for this...
Don't worry what we can't control.
I still believe this team is at least a final 4 team, maybe NC.
PJ and Reid are a tandem, add Herro to that we will be unstoppable.
Once the freshmen "get" it, watch out!
Cal always gets us recruits...we have 3 great ones on deck, will pick up 3 more watch and see

Yes, I remember losing to a bad Kansas state team in the third round. We weren’t any good last season any were aren’t this season.
Ane we shouldn’t be hanging out hats on 10 point wins over VMI.