2 years at Garden city JC. Watt and Washington still on the fence.
Canty to JC..
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Transition classes are challenging but the one clear area where we whiffed pretty badly last year was oline.
There was a mad scramble near the end to get a another oline commitment where we were communitcationg with a number of reaches and landed on a reach with additional qualifying concerns.
There was a mad scramble near the end to get a another oline commitment where we were communitcationg with a number of reaches and landed on a reach with additional qualifying concerns.
I don't think we get any of those three and that's probably why they were still available for NU later in the process. But I hope I'm wrong.
With Canty, it should be interesting to see how he does at GCCC. If he starts two seasons and earns post-season honors, he could find himself highly recruited and possibly coming back to NU as a contender for immediate playing time. If he doesn't pan out at the juco level, well he wasn't going to make it at NU anyway. And I doubt he would have played many snaps his first two years here anyway. So this may not be that tough of a loss.
We can’t have these open scholarships.
It’s ridiculous to not use all the scholarships
Only an inept coach isn’t using all 85 scholarships
Everyone knew he wasn’t going to qualify.
What am I missing??????? Ha ha ha
It’s ridiculous to not use all the scholarships
Only an inept coach isn’t using all 85 scholarships
Everyone knew he wasn’t going to qualify.
What am I missing??????? Ha ha ha
We do have an offer out to this kid. Considered the #4 JUCO prospect overall.
Well, to answer your question - the class as rated last year is going down quickly if none of the three get here. This is always the rub when everyone gets up in a lather over a recruiting class and where they are rated and start heaping praises on the coaching staff not to mention there is then the comparison we should beat Wisconsin, Iowa, and all the rest because we have higher rated classes. Well, we may have at one time if they all made it.
Goes back to what you want to win. The initial recruiting rankings, who shows up on campus, the off season feel good stories or the actual games.
Sorry I was just being a bit of an ***. Those are just a few of the things we’ve heard over the last 15-20 years.
I agree
The only problem is our OL class was a F before he committed and he basically bumped it up to a D-
Two years ago I was bitching about how we only signed one DB in the 2017 class in Blades, and then last year I bitched that all we had was Will Farniok for the OL. When we landed Canty I said to myself well that was a necessity recruit right there. I was never thinking he was going to be a world beater, but he was another capable big body so it would hold over till this years recruiting class.
Stars or No Stars... we can't have positions that go completely unfilled like DB in 2017 and OL in 2018. That stuff just can't happen, and is a big reason for our lack of depth! There are 5 DB's on the field during Nickel, and 6 if you use the Dime. That position can't have a 0 next to it during a recruiting cycle EVER... The Same goes for the OL!
They're going to need a pretty good sized class for 2019 and to stay hot on JUCO guys at certain positions. They lost these guys, but got 3 who are Game 1 starters in Dixon, Honas, and Bell. Count on PT for the JUCO WR Williams, plus the grad transfer CB probably starts at least in Dime packages, if not base.
*IF* Martinez wins the job, you're talking about 6 guys who were not on the roster in December who are either starting or are playing quite a bit. I think if you were offered that gambit in January of, "Hey out of 10 kids who aren't here right now, 3 won't make it, 6 will either start or be in on sub packages Game 1, and I'll give you a seventh as a wild card to potentially be a surprise playmaker. You taking it?" You'd say absolutely yes without blinking.
The philosophical question is would you rather a kid flame out before he ever gets here, or fizzle out after 2-3 years on scholarship? The way the number crunch is, you probably take the flame out and that way you are ready to fill that spot immediately in your next class.
*IF* Martinez wins the job, you're talking about 6 guys who were not on the roster in December who are either starting or are playing quite a bit. I think if you were offered that gambit in January of, "Hey out of 10 kids who aren't here right now, 3 won't make it, 6 will either start or be in on sub packages Game 1, and I'll give you a seventh as a wild card to potentially be a surprise playmaker. You taking it?" You'd say absolutely yes without blinking.
The philosophical question is would you rather a kid flame out before he ever gets here, or fizzle out after 2-3 years on scholarship? The way the number crunch is, you probably take the flame out and that way you are ready to fill that spot immediately in your next class.
Makes me take a long look at dude from Utah and wonder about the need for bodies at NT vs the need for bodies on the OL.
It also makes me wonder about the move by Chris Walker from Oline where we appear to be in desperate need to Dline
So now we are at 82 scholarships, 15 seniors and 3 oversigns. 2019 class currently sits at 21 spots, with more to come IMHO. When guys in academic trouble get quiet on social media, stop doing interviews with Rivals and 247, bad news is sure to follow.
Agree we cannot have years striking out at DB and O-Line when they cover 4-6 spots each on the field. Also wondered about Vaha Vainuku getting a look at O-line. Chris Walker my need to move back. In last two recruiting cycles we have got 4 O-linemen... project that a couple years down the road and you couldnt fill a line with upperclassmen even if they all panned out (also not likely). It’s a desperate situation, and Frost & Co. will be tasked with loading up this year. Juco Bland helps but I’d like to see 6+ signed this cycle.
Based on their comments at the time, they just don't feel he can be athletic at 300-ish lbs. Duval & co seem to have a whole system for evaluating a guy's frame and deciding what kind of weight they think he can carry. They seemed to suggest he'd be too lumbering for what they want if they bulked him up to that size.
The good news about Oline is that 9 of the 14 players on scholarship or committed, will be here for the 2020 season. That gives Frost time to take a couple of more JC players on the line in 2019 and 2020 classes. Of the 5 we lose, Farmer and Foster are the only guaranteed starters, Conrad is a probable starter then Gaylord and Barnett may contribute. The bulk of the room is soph and freshmen, plus the two recruits.
Well he'll get an education if he wants it. Best of luck to him. Wish kids were more motivated to get the grades to qualify throughout their whole 4 years in high school.
I knew what you were doing. As I said in a previous thread, fans are very good at rationalizing things they way we want to see them.
Seniors
Foster
Farmer
Conrad
Juniors
Gaylord
Barnett
Sophomores
M. Farniok
Jaimes
Raridon
Wilson
Freshman
Bando
Sichterman
W. Farniok
Recruits
Anderson
Bland
Sorry Tuco... Quit trying to polish a turd. Nine guys fighting for 5 spots is a joke if you ask me.
We need 12-15
Clearly you need more than 11, which is what they will have after this year even if they don't recruit another player. So by recruiting just one more, they are at 12, which is your minimum. Then if they recruit just 2 more in 2020 they stay at your minimum of 12. Obviously they aren't done recruiting on the OLine for this year or next, I think they will get to that 15-16 number and maintain that in the next two years. But having 9 of the players being soph or younger, is better than having 9 of the players being juniors or seniors.
That Riley was also a ****-awful off-season conditioning, practice week, and in-game coach?
but the toxins are akin to the lack of work ethic the previous staff allowed to flourish.
Yes, it never stops. Pretty sure Callahan/Solich will somehow be at fault if this year’s team isn’t successful. I could point out a political analogy, but this isn’t the place.
2019 OL, as of what we know today
Seniors- Gaylord, Barnett
Juniors- Bland, M. Farniok, Jaimes, Raridon, Wilson
Sophomores- Bando, Sichterman, W. Farniok, Hunter Miller (walkon)
Freshman- Anderson, Piper (listed as an OT per Rivals)
Thirteen total, counting Miller as a walk on who has shown something. A Junior heavy group, which is good, with four sophomores behind them. I would think the staff will add a couple of recruits and that would bring that group to 15.
Seniors- Gaylord, Barnett
Juniors- Bland, M. Farniok, Jaimes, Raridon, Wilson
Sophomores- Bando, Sichterman, W. Farniok, Hunter Miller (walkon)
Freshman- Anderson, Piper (listed as an OT per Rivals)
Thirteen total, counting Miller as a walk on who has shown something. A Junior heavy group, which is good, with four sophomores behind them. I would think the staff will add a couple of recruits and that would bring that group to 15.
I am counting only scholarship guys, not walk ons. If he is awarded a scholarship, he goes on the list.
Fair enough, but I think at the very least from what I've read, Miller has shown enough to be counted on to add depth to the group.
Is Ethan Piper not considered an O-line recruit? Maybe I missed something but 3 thus far in 2019 and still counting. Over 25% of the class thus far is O-line commits. Seems like the staff knows the scholarship count at O-line. Plus, don't be surprised when Walker moves back out of necessity and for earlier playing time
2018 was a very short year for Frost to try to land recruits. Apples to apples, if a coach is only going to land 1 O-line recruit in that short year, I'd rather him land a kid who ends up at a Juco vs a kid that never plays, even if that kid was a 4-star. At least the kid who ends up at a Juco can be corrected the next recruiting cycle. Just saying.
I don't think I've used those. In fact I have defended Pelini and Riley for being under the limit. I don't see the need to take a reach player in a particular class just to get to 85. That scholarship is a 4 year commitment not a one year deal.
I would rather Nebraska have 80 scholarship players than put five 2 star or low 3 star kids on scholarship that should be walk ons.
Walker isn't moving back. He was moved to defense because Duval didn't think he could add the weight required to play Oline and keep the agility needed to play OLine. It isn't just because he wanted to move to Dline.
Problem is, Pelini would reach on kids and still be under.
Thanks for the heads up. Is that documented some place or just word on the street?