Cant see Mulder sitting.

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He looks really good. I intentionally watched him last night. His D was not as good as others but he is not a liability.

His athleticism is better then i thought. They said behind Monk he is our best dunker. I believe he is taller then Monk. Maybe some small forward? His shot just looked so smooth. Just knock down stuff. He hits the boards to. The only thing i seen that would drive Cal nutts is his habit up picking up his dribble in a trapping area. Besides that his game looks really good.
 
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UK082371

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Hah a ha throatpoker. I gotta ask is it your throat getting poked? Or are you the poker?

By the way before getting to UK the kid has plenty of in game film of exactly what we seen in scrimmages here. Last year being at a place like UK could of caused some confidence issues.

He was a top juco recruit for a reason. If he gets the mins and plays like he has in these scrimmages. Cal will have to get him on the floor.
 

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OP he will sit and sit a lot with the 3 AA candidate guards we have ahead of him.

That said, if he can consistently knock down the 3 ball, like he did last nite, he will get 10 or so minutes a gm.
 

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its pretty rare to see a blue-white scrimmage where guys dont play well. we have seen insanely good shooting before in this game. it rarely translates to the game. for christ sakes dom had 20+ last night.

hard to imagine fox, monk, and briscoe not playing 30+ minutes. we know cal trusts hawkins so he would be the first guard in. just dont see mulder getting the time folks think he is going to get. 5-8 minutes max.
 
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James Young is the only guy Cal ever played consistently at the 3 with defense as weak as Mulder's, and Mulder's just not going to reach that level of offensive studliness. So his real route to playing time is shake off the confidence issues and share sub minutes at the 2 with Dominique. If he can get that far then Cal may start going to him /as the sub/ in certain situations where his hops and length give him advantages. And if he got used to that and his nerves went away, then we could have him as a five minutes a night guy down the stretch. Remember that a guy can have two or three great signature games with ten or fifteen minutes burn time in special situations and still come out to five minutes a night over the season. That is his ceiling imho barring injuries, and if he reaches it we should be incredibly proud of him. Sometimes we forget how high these top 5 frosh types set the bar.
 

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Skal dropped 18 and 12 reb last year. Have to take scrimmages half seriously. Mulder still won't play much considering the players in front of him (same amount as last season)
 
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its pretty rare to see a blue-white scrimmage where guys dont play well. we have seen insanely good shooting before in this game. it rarely translates to the game. for christ sakes dom had 20+ last night.

This. It's the same pattern every single year. The day after the blue-white scrimmage this board's always raving about how awesome each player looks and how utterly unstoppable we're gonna be this year--only to later discover that it's a bit different story when you're playing real games against real team defenses. You'd think eventually we'd learn.

Hell, on this day last year, I remember the talk about how incredible Skal Labissiere looks... "by god, that Skal's our new AD, POY, the No. 1 pick!..." How'd that turn out?
 
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hotelblue

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I will say he does look more confident. You can never have too many shooters.
especially if you come in and hit your first three. it's like a get off the bench free card. cal will try you early in certain instances, if you get that good rep and hold your own defensively you'll get spot minutes every game. i'm not saying he's wiltjer, but you know if cal is using him he's probably telling him to go in and shoot it. if he is ready to be that guy it would be welcomed and valued. you can never have enough shooting.
 

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I'm just curious as to who's minutes some of these people think he's going to take? Last year he had Murray, Dom, Briscoe and Ulis ahead of him. This year he has Briscoe,Fox, Monk and Dom ahead of him. And don't forget that Wenyen and or Willis will play some SF so add one more guys ahead of him than last year. I thik he gets a little bit more minutes ( about 7min a game) which would be double what he got last season
 

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The biggest problem for Mulder is the talent in front of him.

Fox, Monk, and Briscoe are going to play close to 35mpg. That leaves about 15mpg at the 1-3 spot for Hawkins and Mulder and that's if Gabriel doesn't see minutes at the 3.

There's just not enough minutes to go around.
 

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I understand you cant tell a lot by a scrimmage. But you can tell if the kid has a skill set. Mulder has a skill set. Now will it play out in a real game? Have no idea. But he seemed pretty confident and had a maturity about his game.

If he gets 10 min a game at first and plays well. Then he will snag some of Doms mins and possibly some of Willis mins. Briscoe , Monk and Fox. 2 out of the 3 will be on the court at all times. Anyone of those guys can be subbed with any person on the bench. Need size sub in Hump or another big for one of the 3. Out of those 3 one of them will get into foul trouble early in most games. Just a odds thing. Once that happens that opens up 2 spots for Dom and Mulder to get some mins.

Hope the young man plays concitently. If anything showed us anything about the rule changes last year, fouls are called on Frosh trying to play D for the first time in Coll ball. Fox and Monk are aggressive on ball defenders. May take a few games to settle into D at this level. Mulder may be big for us early. Hopefully his game transfers over from scrimmages to game time.
 

hotelblue

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I'm just curious as to who's minutes some of these people think he's going to take? Last year he had Murray, Dom, Briscoe and Ulis ahead of him. This year he has Briscoe,Fox, Monk and Dom ahead of him. And don't forget that Wenyen and or Willis will play some SF so add one more guys ahead of him than last year. I thik he gets a little bit more minutes ( about 7min a game) which would be double what he got last season
early in the year the bench players get more chances, especially in the second half of a blowout victory. if you come in and hit shots. people notice. especially cal. let's say monk and fox rest 2-4 minutes a half. that's 8-16 minutes right there. if briscoe only rests 2-4 minutes for the game, that's a chance to get in the game. so basically he's playing against gabriel, killeya jones or humphries. he probably won't get many minutes if any. here's the thing though, cal being no dummy realizes we need a few threes to go to keep the discrepancy against the 30 attempts we'll see from our opponents at a minimum.

if you can walk in and drain a three, cal will use you to steal a few points. and in the case of mulder, we're not losing defensively like we did with wiltjer. he has an opportunity here still. if he distinguished himself as an assassin off the bench he will be quite visible in cal's tool box.
 

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I'd like to red shirt Mulder...

Without any returning guards next year, a 5th year senior like Mulder could really help us and I don't think he'll play a whole lot this year.

Fox, Monk, Briscoe, and Hawkins will eat up the back court minutes this season.
 
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He ain't going to play as he is the 5th guard and you rarely play a 5th guard. Just that simple. In wish he was younger and could be redshirted but he ain't going to go for that at this point.
 
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He looks really good. I intentionally watched him last night. His D was not as good as others but he is not a liability.

His athleticism is better then i thought. They said behind Monk he is our best dunker. I believe he is taller then Monk. Maybe some small forward? His shot just looked so smooth. Just knock down stuff. He hits the boards to. The only thing i seen that would drive Cal nutts is his habit up picking up his dribble in a trapping area. Besides that his game looks really good.
It's easy. Just look at the bench during the games
 

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In order for all that to happen Mulder would have to constantly play well and those other players would have to constantly play bad. Dom/Briscoe are proven so both would have to play bad for awhile along with the two other starters playing Horribly (look at Skal, and I doubt any of them play that bad)


I understand you cant tell a lot by a scrimmage. But you can tell if the kid has a skill set. Mulder has a skill set. Now will it play out in a real game? Have no idea. But he seemed pretty confident and had a maturity about his game.

If he gets 10 min a game at first and plays well. Then he will snag some of Doms mins and possibly some of Willis mins. Briscoe , Monk and Fox. 2 out of the 3 will be on the court at all times. Anyone of those guys can be subbed with any person on the bench. Need size sub in Hump or another big for one of the 3. Out of those 3 one of them will get into foul trouble early in most games. Just a odds thing. Once that happens that opens up 2 spots for Dom and Mulder to get some mins.

Hope the young man plays concitently. If anything showed us anything about the rule changes last year, fouls are called on Frosh trying to play D for the first time in Coll ball. Fox and Monk are aggressive on ball defenders. May take a few games to settle into D at this level. Mulder may be big for us early. Hopefully his game transfers over from scrimmages to game time.
 

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He looks really good. I intentionally watched him last night. His D was not as good as others but he is not a liability.

His athleticism is better then i thought. They said behind Monk he is our best dunker. I believe he is taller then Monk. Maybe some small forward? His shot just looked so smooth. Just knock down stuff. He hits the boards to. The only thing i seen that would drive Cal nutts is his habit up picking up his dribble in a trapping area. Besides that his game looks really good.
Maybe you will get a better seat with a view of the bench next game:sunglasses:, seriously he did look pretty good but he is playing behind a whole lot of talent and for a coach that wants to showcase that talent to the next level.
 

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You do know that Cal doesn't play the bench until the end of games in blowouts right? He likes to continue to work on things during the blowout, things he can't work on during a tight game because the game is still in the balance. This is the case with all coaches which is why a team can be up 30 with 10 minutes to play and a coach will still have his regular rotation of players playing. They also do this to get guys ready for the tough teams and because practices are toned down during the season. The non role players tend to come in around the two to three minute mark and by that time the coach isn't looking to put more points on the board

early in the year the bench players get more chances, especially in the second half of a blowout victory. if you come in and hit shots. people notice. especially cal. let's say monk and fox rest 2-4 minutes a half. that's 8-16 minutes right there. if briscoe only rests 2-4 minutes for the game, that's a chance to get in the game. so basically he's playing against gabriel, killeya jones or humphries. he probably won't get many minutes if any. here's the thing though, cal being no dummy realizes we need a few threes to go to keep the discrepancy against the 30 attempts we'll see from our opponents at a minimum.

if you can walk in and drain a three, cal will use you to steal a few points. and in the case of mulder, we're not losing defensively like we did with wiltjer. he has an opportunity here still. if he distinguished himself as an assassin off the bench he will be quite visible in cal's tool box.
 

hotelblue

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You do know that Cal doesn't play the bench until the end of games in blowouts right? He likes to continue to work on things during the blowout, things he can't work on during a tight game because the game is still in the balance. This is the case with all coaches which is why a team can be up 30 with 10 minutes to play and a coach will still have his regular rotation of players playing. They also do this to get guys ready for the tough teams and because practices are toned down during the season. The non role players tend to come in around the two to three minute mark and by that time the coach isn't looking to put more points on the board
yeah i do know. because i said in my post. the real question is: do you know i know lol
 
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Mulder's bigger contributions will come from what he brings in practice. He offers Cal a hell of a 10th man to guard Monk and help him get better.

It's not so much that Mulder isn't a good player. For the college level, he's solid and would probably see 25+ minutes/game at most D1 schools; but at Kentucky he's playing behind lottery pick level wing players - some of whom might end up being max players in the NBA. Perspective-wise, Mulder is probably a less intelligent (basketball-IQ) version of Allen Edwards. That's not a bad thing. For a 10th man, he represents the fact that UK is insanely deep this year.
 
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If Mulder can prove he can hit shots and isnt a terrible liability on defense he will play because Monk, Hawkins and Briscoe will not be consistent 3 point threats in my opinion. I think Mulder is VERY important to this team and will give us another consistent threat from 3(along with Willis)which in my opinion is crucial.
 

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I do know hat you know but the real real question is do you know hat I know that you know and if so how do you know. Hmmmmmm lol

yeah i do know. because i said in my post. the real question is: do you know i know lol
 

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OP he will sit and sit a lot with the 3 AA candidate guards we have ahead of him.

That said, if he can consistently knock down the 3 ball, like he did last nite, he will get 10 or so minutes a gm.
Needs to make shots when he gets the chance. The more he makes, the more he plays. Fingers crossed he can be a very reliable shot-maker off the bench as a senior.
 

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Truth is mulder will get his chances but you're lying to yourself if you think he plays from day one in big games. He has to prove he belongs out there and you can't go off a scrimmage at home he will be a contributor. Like Willis had to do he has to show it when it counts and he will have to start doing it when we play the clarions of the world
 
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Just remember the leading scorer in the blue white game Cals first year wasn't Wall, Cousins or PPat. It was Darnell Dotson. Nuff said
 

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its pretty rare to see a blue-white scrimmage where guys dont play well. we have seen insanely good shooting before in this game. it rarely translates to the game. for christ sakes dom had 20+ last night.

hard to imagine fox, monk, and briscoe not playing 30+ minutes. we know cal trusts hawkins so he would be the first guard in. just dont see mulder getting the time folks think he is going to get. 5-8 minutes max.

I like to see all the guys play well but if Hawkins is hitting his outside shots, it will be a dagger for Mulder's playing time.
 

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From what I saw if him on the scrimmage he looked way more comfortable and like he knows what coach expects. Good sign and seems like he'll get some PT this year in my book.
 

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It's a fact Canadian players walk slower than any other player and are black holes. I don't know if you noticed or not but last yr when Murray would hit a 3 he would shoot the fake bow and arrow his release on the arrow was much slower than others who did it, that in its self tells me all I need to know about mulder
 

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I don't know how many minutes Mulder will get, but he has one thing going for him. He's the closest thing we have to a true SF on the roster from a size standpoint. We have a great roster, but when you look at it, we have all bigs and all guards with no 6'5" to 6'7" SF types. He can shoot and he's athletic. How that translates to actual games is anyone's guess at this point.