Cal, with all the options at his disposal for 2019/2020 will we see the true dribble drive or something different. Not only will we have guards that can shoot outside but bigs also, especially if we get Blackshear. Sestina and Blackshear both shot above 35% and EJ has that ability also. This could be a very hard team to defend. Stretching the floor shouldn't be a problem and zones shouldn't be either.
Cal's offense
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Dribble Drive.. after ten years I still do not know what that is..looks more like Dribble stand.
Calipari has favored the "Circle" sets these last few seasons, which I HATE because it's basically just Tyler running off screens, and our other 4 players standing still. Then if Tyler doesn't have an open shot, he hits the post - but the defense is set so makes it tough to score - but if you have studs, which UK does, it can also be tough to stop.
Calipari had a lot of great success on the recruiting trail this year. I'm no expert, but I have to think that he recruited these kids with a pitch that did NOT include the "Circle" style offense. With the wings he brought in, Maxey to drive the ball, stretch 4s to shoot - I have to think we're going to see a more modern approach on the offensive end.
Also, don't think think that Hagans was a good PG for the Circle style of offense, so Cal might be helping Hagans out with a new approach as well.
Calipari had a lot of great success on the recruiting trail this year. I'm no expert, but I have to think that he recruited these kids with a pitch that did NOT include the "Circle" style offense. With the wings he brought in, Maxey to drive the ball, stretch 4s to shoot - I have to think we're going to see a more modern approach on the offensive end.
Also, don't think think that Hagans was a good PG for the Circle style of offense, so Cal might be helping Hagans out with a new approach as well.
It's all about what each individual players are capable of doing.
He'll adjust to that. If he needs to simplify he will. If he can add more offensive sets, he will do that too.
We have a lot of returner so hope they all add different skill sets so we can run more motion offense.
He'll adjust to that. If he needs to simplify he will. If he can add more offensive sets, he will do that too.
We have a lot of returner so hope they all add different skill sets so we can run more motion offense.
It’s not myth! He’s not ran it at UK! Some of us wish you and your posts were a myth!
I tend to agree. It seems as if every year we have guys be like “the length and speed of this years guys is PERFECT for Dribble Drive”
yet it never really comes to fruition.
Cal is too stubborn to change. Wild moon he might simplify something but he will never add more sets or create more motion. Just not the way he is wired. I hate watching our stand around offense.
Cal has run a few different types of offense here. The personnel dictates what he does. The issue is that the team turns over 60% every year so he has to figure out what works best. Look at the 2010, 2012 or 2015 teams. Those 3 were his best teams but played differently. I don't think he's all that stubborn with teams that are versatile. He has had teams that needed his thumb on them the whole time and he is stubborn with them.
Cal is a marketing mastermind. It was a marketing gimmick.
Don’t tell that to CatFanMike47, he may have a nervous break down.
Wish in one hand and crap in the other hand, watch which hand fills up first. I am the real deal, Nancy, learn to love it. :smiley:
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The DDMO would be the best bet with this lineup, IMHO, especially if we don't add a dominant big man like Blackshear.
I think our best five to put on the floor would be:
G Hagans
G Maxey
F Whitney
F Brooks
F Montgomery
No dominant post play, so spread the floor and drive and score, get fouled, lob, get it on the rim, or kick it out.
That could also be the best defensive team with the way Cal likes to play defense by switching everything. Big guards, quick forwards, and a rim protector. That's when Cal is at his best defensively.
I think our best five to put on the floor would be:
G Hagans
G Maxey
F Whitney
F Brooks
F Montgomery
No dominant post play, so spread the floor and drive and score, get fouled, lob, get it on the rim, or kick it out.
That could also be the best defensive team with the way Cal likes to play defense by switching everything. Big guards, quick forwards, and a rim protector. That's when Cal is at his best defensively.
Screw that.
Think Cal will go Zone this year? [winking]
Think Cal will go Zone this year? [winking]
we lost all the guys who scored the points from a team that didn't score well, no recruits or transfers are a sure thing
this team will have to be great defensively to win a title
this team will have to be great defensively to win a title
Cal has absolutely used the DDMO at UK - but he has NOT used it much beyond the Wall/Bledsoe group, and the Knight/Lamb/Jones group.
Edit: He also used it with the 2012 National Champ team, although not as much as he did with the previous 2 UK teams. 2012 team actually used Terrance Jones up top quite a bit with Teague and Kidd-Gilchrest.
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You mean pound the ball to the floor for 25 seconds, then high screen at the top of the key and then flail around aimlessly and throw up something that looks like it's out of a game of horse? That offense??? Possibly the only thing better is the inbound under the basket to Reid or PJ.
Good Lawd......there is a bunch of friggin' basketball minds that knows so much more on here than the guy inducted into College Basketball's HOF....the gyu who has made KY basketball a juggernaut again....the man who takes a bunch of talent and makes them teammates....and then you got this guy coaching that has this consistency that is documented as the best since he has been here in all of College Basketball.....and the guy who has brought in all these kids who (for the largest part) became great citizens.
SH%T!!! just sit back and enjoy instead of whining like little bit$he$
SH%T!!! just sit back and enjoy instead of whining like little bit$he$
If Cal has a flaw in his coaching, it's holding back talented big men. Big men who are better in the NBA than at Kentucky.
Sure he has. My guess is most of the posters saying it's a myth simply wouldn't recognize it, and in general don't understand much about offense, either historical or contemporary.
Two things inform the way Calipari runs an offense (beyond, obviously, whatever his personal biases are). One, he is all about preparing guys for the NBA, so he's going to run sets which translate to that level. Second, more important IMO, he is limited by the youth of his teams. All the bellyaching about how simplistic we are, about his coaching not matching the complexity of other teams.......it's like no one ever puts 2 and 2 together. He is always - always - reliant to a great extent on freshmen. Every year we are into January and even February and they are trying to master very basic things like communicating on defense. And yet we have people clamoring for more elaborate systems on defense and especially offense. Getting at all complicated is a recipe for disaster with kids this young - all it takes is one guy not knowing where he's supposed to be or what he's supposed to be doing, and it all breaks down. And you have chaos. And the typical crew wanting someone to be fired. KISS, that's the mantra with 18 year olds....
It dont take a genius to see that you cant run a dribble drive with 6 men in the lane, it is too crowded, which is why we either turn it over or get it blocked. You have to have spacing and since Cal is reluctant to shoot many threes (we seldom have more than one 3 point threat), other teams simply clog the lane. So, we seldom see a true dribble drive.
I'm old enough to remember Patrick Ewing and many other big men in college basketball. That's way before one and done and all the bigs played multiple years, each one improved every year. Each one improved more after getting to the pros. Cal has them when their kids, the pros have them as men. Pros don't have the 20 hour rule, they concentrate daily on specific needs, sure they are going to improve.
I know he ran the dribble-drive with the Wall team because I saw them practice it in the preseason at length. It's a little more complex than people make it sound but it's sort of a hybrid motion offense wherein they loop in front and try to set up the 1/2/3 for the drive.
Don't think they've run it much (or at all) since.
In the intervening years Cal's been big, as someone else said, on "circle." Occasionally they'll run the horns look, or one of these quick-hitter sets with the big posting hard or ducking in. PJ Washington could be a pretty devastating player out of horns but it's a really hard set for college players to run. Have to have very skilled 4s and 5s who are willing passers.
Have no idea what next year's personnel will look like but the odd thing about Cal is that he's very traditional. If he could have his point guard walk it down and pound it inside he'd do that. Obviously we're not going to have the personnel for that without Blackshear but if I had to guess I'd say the most important thing we'll do is not in the halfcourt. I think Kentucky will try to push the ball off the rebound a lot next season with Hagans, Maxey, and Whitney. Think we'll be a more end-to-end team than we were a year ago.
Last year I thought we used Reid Travis too much in the offense. I liked him a lot because you have to have rebound-chasers, but I don't think we should have thrown him the ball hardly at all on post-ups.
Don't think they've run it much (or at all) since.
In the intervening years Cal's been big, as someone else said, on "circle." Occasionally they'll run the horns look, or one of these quick-hitter sets with the big posting hard or ducking in. PJ Washington could be a pretty devastating player out of horns but it's a really hard set for college players to run. Have to have very skilled 4s and 5s who are willing passers.
Have no idea what next year's personnel will look like but the odd thing about Cal is that he's very traditional. If he could have his point guard walk it down and pound it inside he'd do that. Obviously we're not going to have the personnel for that without Blackshear but if I had to guess I'd say the most important thing we'll do is not in the halfcourt. I think Kentucky will try to push the ball off the rebound a lot next season with Hagans, Maxey, and Whitney. Think we'll be a more end-to-end team than we were a year ago.
Last year I thought we used Reid Travis too much in the offense. I liked him a lot because you have to have rebound-chasers, but I don't think we should have thrown him the ball hardly at all on post-ups.
:weary: Classic HOF Coach Cal genius right there. That play works every single time.
Cal coaches based on personal. He switched the offense when Brandon Knight was here. he went to a two man game and ran a lot of pick and pop because Brandon was so good at it. If the defense shaded him, he would kick to the pick guy. Josh Harrellson really benefited having Knight as his point guard.
Yeah, see, here's one of the great myths of the Cal era right here.
If anything John Calipari is too invested in set plays.
That stuff you see when Cal's over there screaming from the sideline is an attempt to break them out of AAU ball? That's essentially "get it into the set." It happens all. The. Time.
I tend to think UK is often better when we're moving it up and down the floor and looking to score quick. I like Cal but I think he overcoaches at times and he has a penchant for having his hand too heavily into the flow of the game.
You think maybe it might have something to do with a player being better at 24 than at 18?
hilarious....maybe we should just fire him and hire you and your style minions......But...C team needin' some input over there dad....
So Cal held back Boogie, Davis, and Towns because they are better in the NBA than they were in college? Lmao
With the quality guards and small forwards, with the mobility of EJ and Sestina being able to take his man outside I see us taking it to the basket often. With Juzang, Maxey, Quickley, Sestina decent shooting threes I can see a much more open offense. It will take some time but Cal will adjust to his personnel. Fortunately he has some experience that will help greatly.
You must have been really miserable during the Tubby years then