Calipari lowering expectations...

RunninRichie

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Me personally man? I would have fired him the day after St. Peter’s. The reason I say that is because Kentucky should not put up with this kind of **** long. Indiana obviously didn’t teach some of these people anything.

1. Hanging on to a coach who doesn’t win consistently because of his past accomplishments can kill your brand over time.

2. Accepting losing and making excuses for it WILL kill your brand over time.

I really think people don’t understand why UK is UK. It’s Because we have valued our brand and not accepted chipping away at it since Rupp. Bad hire? You’re fired. Mediocre coach? The fans apply pressure. Our brand sells and dominant coaches want to be challenged by our win or go **** yourself attitude.

We’re losing that under Calipari. If we keep holding on we’re going to be seen as a Syracuse with a Jim Boeheim.

Calipari has been using tragedies and new uniforms to supplement his lack of winning. The problem is we’ve already lost a lot of ground with our brand. On his watch, Duke is now the all time gold standard to fans across the nation. North Carolina has leap frogged us. Kansas is picking up steam as a more dominant brand.

2-3 more years of 10 losses, early exits, and beatdowns from teams like Tennessee and Auburn? We’re about to completely be seen as a good program, not great, former juggernaut.

It doesn’t happen over night, it’s the death of 1,000 cuts. You have to protect the program against it.

I want Calipari to work too, it’s there it’s so there. The fit, the personality, he’s already got 4 final fours and a title here. We’re so close. But if he won’t get on with it, he’s got to go. We can’t force him to make the move toward legacy. He’s clearly not giving a sht enough. It’s about time to end it.

They won’t buy him out until they see the Sheppard and Wagner class. But if we look like **** this year, and that class doesn’t pan out, he’s gotta go. And go he will.
I would have fired him too, but we can't brainfart locked us in with this clown.
 

Gromcat_rivals

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I would have fired him too, but we can't brainfart locked us in with this clown.

If we keep him past 2024 (given the Shep and Wagner class don’t pan out) we’re officially Syracuse. This is the danger in caring more about a coach than the program. It sneaks up on you, we’ve gotta be vigilant with the program.

And honestly, without the contract, St. Peter would have been the end of Calipari at UK
 

Gromcat_rivals

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Look I’m telling y’all if we don’t produce this year and the next class doesn’t pan to at least a final four and you still want to keep Calipari, I will hate you as a fan. I will wish you no good will nor your children, and pray you’re never able to afford a drive to Lexington.

Change affiliation to Murray State and leave this damn program the hell alone.

Just buy a Calipari sex doll or have one made, quit watching UK basketball, and let real fans handle the real job.
 

School boy

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He's on the hot seat guys, he knows it. He's just wanting his players not filled up to high in nov. Relax!
 

Gromcat_rivals

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He's on the hot seat guys, he knows it. He's just wanting his players not filled up to high in nov. Relax!

I know you’re not a UK fan but you’ve stayed long enough that I will allow it and stop giving you grief if you help us apply pressure if this thing goes south and we suck this year and next.

You help there and I’ll have an honorary troll UK fan badge made for you with a certificate of authenticity.
 
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If we keep him past 2024 (given the Shep and Wagner class don’t pan out) we’re officially Syracuse. This is the danger in caring more about a coach than the program. It sneaks up on you, we’ve gotta be vigilant with the program.

And honestly, without the contract, St. Peter would have been the end of Calipari at UK
It's ridiculous. If 2020 wasn't the end of Calipari, 2022 should have been. The Cal fans cry into their cereal about that being negative because they know it's true.
 

School boy

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I know you’re not a UK fan but you’ve stayed long enough that I will allow it and stop giving you grief if you help us apply pressure if this thing goes south and we suck this year and next.

You help there and I’ll have an honorary troll UK fan badge made for you with a certificate of authenticity.
Drink another one.
 
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Look I’m telling y’all if we don’t produce this year and the next class doesn’t pan to at least a final four and you still want to keep Calipari, I will hate you as a fan. I will wish you no good will nor your children, and pray you’re never able to afford a drive to Lexington.

Change affiliation to Murray State and leave this damn program the hell alone.

Just buy a Calipari sex doll or have one made, quit watching UK basketball, and let real fans handle the real job.
Jeez dude I couldn't stand two more years of this. The last 5 years have been a kick to the balls.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Look I’m telling y’all if we don’t produce this year and the next class doesn’t pan to at least a final four and you still want to keep Calipari, I will hate you as a fan. I will wish you no good will nor your children, and pray you’re never able to afford a drive to Lexington.

Change affiliation to Murray State and leave this damn program the hell alone.

Just buy a Calipari sex doll or have one made, quit watching UK basketball, and let real fans handle the real job.
If he can’t be great especially with next years roster, being that’s a team full of guys he has had success coaching than yeah it’s should be the end
 
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School boy

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Where do you keep getting this I rarely ever drink lol. Like rarely ever.

I don’t think you understand what you’re saying weirdo Duke fan that stays on a UK message board lol.

How’s the Duke main board there days? Still foreign?
please don't drive until tomorrow. Thanks!
 

CincyUKFan

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Ah, okay. So you’re just going to make up nonsense then stick to it hoping it creates a response.

How’s this for a response to your retarded nonsense.

Fart.
I don’t block many people. But if a dude insists on calling me a drunk, he’s probably going to be put on ignore. I’m like you, might have a whiskey-coke three times a year and that’s it.
 

School boy

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Ah, okay. So you’re just going to make up nonsense then stick to it hoping it creates a response.

How’s this for a response to your retarded nonsense.

Fart.
No teeth country drunk Tenn fan, so drunk calling me a duke fan. You troll all you do is trash on Cal or talk about the sl cards, that no one gives a care about. How many accounts have you made? But I'm the troll. Smh
 

RunninRichie

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@RunninRichie how do you feel about a January 6th at our main facility if everything goes south in 2024 but Calipari donates 500 bucks to the women’s shelter and keeps his job?

Matt Jones will run for mayor using the slogan “ protect our Lexington democracy”.
He will fly another coal miner out to his home for left over pizza and milk. And all will be good.







YOU JUST HATE CAL!
 
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No teeth country drunk Tenn fan, so drunk calling me a duke fan. You troll all you do is trash on Cal or talk about the sl cards, that no one gives a care about. How many accounts have you made? But I'm the troll. Smh

Oh shut up you damn fool.
 
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All he said is we aren’t going to be playing our best basketball.

That’s fine. We should be playing our best basketball in March.
This team will win enough games vs enough quality opponents to be a very good seed come March
 
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I'm convinced at this point there is nothing Calipari can do or say that would disappoint @The_Answer1313 ... lol

i mean don’t get me wrong. I’d rather him come out and be all swaggy like other times in the past.

But regardless even tho I do like Cal, I don’t really put a whole lot of stock into what he says lol.

I prefer to just wait and watch the actual basketball games. What he said doesn’t really change much in my mind in thinking this will be a pretty good team and maybe more than that.
 
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School boy

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Strong possibility of high single digit losses this season.

  • Teams will dare Wheeler to shoot.
  • I'm not convinced Toppin isn't Poythress 2.0, just a big tease most of the time with an occasional top 10 play.
  • Do feel Reeves is the real deal but of course lots of others want shots.
  • Anyone expecting the pogo stick to be a major contributor does not know basketball.
  • Livingston is a wildcard and could contribute in many areas, how quickly that happens who knows.
  • Wallace does not look comfortable shooting outside with actual competition on the floor.
  • CJ. Will he be healthy enough to be on the floor as much as we need him? When he is on the floor will he continue favoring his injured leg and be able to stick with someone on defense?
  • Oscar? Is he healthy? Can he match what he did last year?
good lord
 

STL_Cat

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i mean don’t get me wrong. I’d rather him come out and be all swaggy like other times in the past.

But regardless even tho I do like Cal, I don’t really put a whole lot of stock into what he says lol.

I prefer to just wait and watch the actual basketball games. What he said doesn’t really change much in my mind in thinking this will be a pretty good team and maybe more than that.
Sure. But I can remember trying to get through to you that this program was experiencing a downward trend prior to the 2020-2021 season. All the signs were there and even the numbers backed it up. You weren’t buying it.

The team proceeded to go 9-16 that year.
 

SDcatfan13

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I'm convinced at this point there is nothing Calipari can do or say that would disappoint @The_Answer1313 ... lol
On the contrary, there's nothing Calipari could say that wouldn't disappoint some fans here.

We haven't even gotten to the 2nd exhibition game and some people are already bringing out the histrionics asking the coach to be fired. This seems ridiculous even for this board.

Last year had a frustrating ending, but definitely think the pieces are there this year for a big tournament run.
 
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STL_Cat

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On the contrary, there's nothing Calipari could say that wouldn't disappoint some fans here.

We haven't even gotten to the 2nd exhibition game and some people are already bringing out the histrionics asking the coach to be fired. This seems ridiculous even for this board.

Last year had a frustrating ending, but definitely think the pieces are there this year for a big tournament run.
Both things can be true. There are some Cal fans that think the guy walks on water. Some people are so sick of him it makes bo difference what the guy does or says, it won’t be good enough.
 

kyjeff1

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All he said is we aren’t going to be playing our best basketball.

That’s fine. We should be playing our best basketball in March.
This team will win enough games vs enough quality opponents to be a very good seed come March
Yeah, but what about everyone else in college basketball? Did they have some sort of a head start that I don’t know about?

Aren't we the ones that got a head start?

It’s not like everyone else is in mid season form right now, why is this team going to struggle when it’s Cal's most experienced team? Why would they struggle when they have the NPOY and the NCAA assit leader returning? Why would we struggle with all the NBA talent he has? Why should we struggle when we have a senior that shoots damn near 50% from 3 point range?

Who are we supposed to struggle with? Should we be struggling with teams like what we played on Sunday? Isn't that weird to you?
 

SDcatfan13

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Sure. But I can remember trying to get through to you that this program was experiencing a downward trend prior to the 2020-2021 season. All the signs were there and even the numbers backed it up. You weren’t buying it.

The team proceeded to go 9-16 that year.
Well it's in an upward trend now, so time to let go of the past.

If Calipari fails to make the final 4 in the next 2 seasons, I'll join with others in calling for his retirement, but I think these next 2 seasons will go a big way in restoring Kentucky back to the top.
 
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STL_Cat

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Well it's in an upward trend now, so time to let go of the past.

If Calipari fails to make the final 4 in the next 2 seasons, I'll join with others in calling for his retirement, but I think these next 2 seasons will go a big way in restoring Kentucky back to the top.
I think there’s not nearly enough data to support we are in an upward trend. Last season ended with a 1st round loss to a 15 seed. We haven’t been a 1 seed in 7 years. We are literally in the middle of our longest ever stretch without a 1 seed in the NBAA tournament.

This year we get a 1 seed and make a final four, we’re in an upward trend. We’re not there yet though. Pretty premature to call anything we’ve seen an upward trend at this point.