Thats a very fair question, The answer is yes , racism exist . And sadly it always will, humans tend to suck. The larger picture is this Is it worth to tear down decades of progress to attempt to eradicate something that cant be eradicated ? Are we , as a society , doing things in " protest " that actually make the real issue worse . Thats the question.
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Thats a very fair question, The answer is yes , racism exist . And sadly it always will, humans tend to suck. The larger picture is this Is it worth to tear down decades of progress to attempt to eradicate something that cant be eradicated ? Are we , as a society , doing things in " protest " that actually make the real issue worse . Thats the question.
Actually I screwed up my original post and just fixed it. Cal should have said “no but,” in my opinion, not “yes but.”
You are right he’s absolutely doing “yes but” and I agree he’s doing a good job of that. But doing a good job of that is pissing off boosters.
Anyway lol at my mush mouth
That’s an excellent point and I’m already off topic so this is my last post about this non-basketball related issue but I also think we fail to stop and appreciate just how far we have come in the last 50-60 years in this area. I’m in my 30’s and I’m very hopeful that my grandkids won’t even think twice about a person’s race in their generation. All the noise is driven by negativity so we should strive to find the positives in things to combat that. Now who is ready to talk about how bad a matchup Auburn is for us????
Then teach them what BLM is really all about.
You are really really stupid to be celebrating this. The fanbase is fracturing and it won't easily or quickly be put back together. Especially when Cal's team is ****.
Kentucky is a different animal, Mark Twain said Kentucky is 20 years behind everybody else in lifestyle and I think that's a good thing. In the civil war Braxton Bragg said Kentuckians fight like hell but do as they please on everything else and can not be organized. I remember when Eddie Sutton took the Kentucky job someone didn't like his perm and said we like our coaches hair and our Bourbon straight. Traditions mean a lot here and Kentuckians have always been at the front in wars and patriotic issues. I hoped I wouldn't see the day when our players would kneel when the Anthem was played, much less our coach do it too. I don't like it and don't agree with it, they can take it somewhere else. I don't like whats going on in the world either but when all these kids are getting a free education for doing something they like and doing it on college campuses is just making things worse. These players he has had have made millions in pro contracts and Kentucky only has one championship to show for it. Maybe he should go in to the sports agents field where that's all he would have to concentrate on, making millionaires.
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Calipari needs to hire Billy Gillispie as "assistant in charge of kneeling suggestions by players".
Gillispie: "YEAH, GO KNEEL. BUT AFTERWARDS YOU'RE GOING TO RUN THE BLEACHERS UNTIL YOU HAVE STRESS FRACTURES IN BOTH FEET!"
Gillispie: "YEAH, GO KNEEL. BUT AFTERWARDS YOU'RE GOING TO RUN THE BLEACHERS UNTIL YOU HAVE STRESS FRACTURES IN BOTH FEET!"
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Not going to read because it’s likely biased. Does anyone think there are company heads telling their recruiters to not interview African Americans? That’s what systemic means. There is none in America yet there are plenty of individuals who are biased against others based on race. We are told to believe that Police are biased against blacks and look to kill them when they can. Of course there is ZERO evidence of this systemically and actually the evidence supports the opposite. Does that mean there is no cop who isn’t biased against blacks and hasn’t acted on that bias. Of course not.
What keeps this alive is its use in grabbing money, power, or influence. Race hustling is valuable business. Have the Al Sharptons of the world ever added anything positive to the body politic? I’d say zero and in fact I’d say they have hurt all of us just to line their pockets.
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there’s no evidence because you choose to not read the evidence lol
I think he resigns after this year
You were right . I have read it now though. Cal was put in a position where defending himself against the article could alienate the majority of his fan base. He fell for it hook,line, and sinker . Should have just kept his mouth shut . Much like our exiting president, he let the media play him like a fiddle.
You stand with him or kneel with him ? I’m getting confused, lol .
CPM (Cal's Players Matter)
Again, stop trying to get my hopes up.
sure Cal is trying to balance it and he is balancing poorly. if these kids can't explain why they want to kneel. how/why would Cal support them?
1. For those that state "Cal had to stick with the players or lose recruits for years to come"....So do you honestly think we are going to beat out Duke for a kid anytime soon? Are we not know seeing a further dilution to our recruiting to G-League that is only going to get bigger? I'd argue Collins is 100% Jai Lucas hire...Hickman and Hopkins are solid but not elite. So do you honestly think kids are going to base decisions on who is woke or not? We've lost kids we wanted in this class to Coach k, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, etc...and none of those coaches have gone anywhere near as far as Cal has gone for these kind of issues....so why isn't recruiting really changing at all yet? I honestly still think Cal's recruiting is still going to be losing all the Duke battles, now G League will take a share and we'll still get some kids rated in the teens to 30's range along with grad transfers.
2. Here is my biggest issue with all of this in general and huge issue with a 50 year old grown adult coach.
- This is playing that white Kentuckians don't care about how black Americans are treated like black athletes do. But the issue as I see it (and some proportion of people not a fan of kneeling, protests, riots, BLM, changing Rupp arena name, etc...the whole gamut of this) is simple. George Floyd is like 99% everybody feels that was awful and it was 100% correct to arrest the police man and charge the officer and justice system is working that case as we speak.
- But the cases of Jacob Blake, Rashard Brooks, Breanna Taylor, the dude with knife in Philadelphia even Michael Floyd and Freddie Gray when Obama was president are not cases of police hunting down black people and the entire narrative has no statistical basis in terms of blacks killed by police and all of these cases that people protest about...these people were law breakers, resisting police orders, etc..
So if you want to protest/kneel...then I guess that is their and your perogative...but there are literally zero specifics on exactly what you want the police to do differently in those instances. So if Sarr, Brooks, Mintz, etc..want to kneel fine...but how about tell me what you want police to do different in these cases? And same for Cal.
It would be nice if Cal, as a grown man in this situation, can talk to the kids about being in charge and it's easy to to second guess things....but what exactly do you want politicians to do different? To which it's been radio silence from all people besides "defund the police" which is just an absurd position IMO
2. Here is my biggest issue with all of this in general and huge issue with a 50 year old grown adult coach.
- This is playing that white Kentuckians don't care about how black Americans are treated like black athletes do. But the issue as I see it (and some proportion of people not a fan of kneeling, protests, riots, BLM, changing Rupp arena name, etc...the whole gamut of this) is simple. George Floyd is like 99% everybody feels that was awful and it was 100% correct to arrest the police man and charge the officer and justice system is working that case as we speak.
- But the cases of Jacob Blake, Rashard Brooks, Breanna Taylor, the dude with knife in Philadelphia even Michael Floyd and Freddie Gray when Obama was president are not cases of police hunting down black people and the entire narrative has no statistical basis in terms of blacks killed by police and all of these cases that people protest about...these people were law breakers, resisting police orders, etc..
So if you want to protest/kneel...then I guess that is their and your perogative...but there are literally zero specifics on exactly what you want the police to do differently in those instances. So if Sarr, Brooks, Mintz, etc..want to kneel fine...but how about tell me what you want police to do different in these cases? And same for Cal.
It would be nice if Cal, as a grown man in this situation, can talk to the kids about being in charge and it's easy to to second guess things....but what exactly do you want politicians to do different? To which it's been radio silence from all people besides "defund the police" which is just an absurd position IMO
He has said it was to bring people together. As if doing something as divisive as kneeling for the National Anthem would help bring people together. lol.
There is an old saying- don’t get in a pissing match with someone who buys ink by the barrel(the media). But the turd who wrote that trash is wrong.
and there is another old saying in which Cal resembles..."a one legged man in an *** kicking contest"!
Except when he kneels.....
He may kneel with this players, but I stand for the United States of America.
Agree 100%. But, it seems the Left in this country is immersed in a war to ensure there are zero opposing voices. I would ask the players if they support free speech and see what they say.
Probably something like "hate speech should be banned." Which is another way of saying "I support free speech as long as you agree with me."
Yeah because if he stopped getting paid tomorrow, he'd face financial ruin.I mean what is he suppose to say ?. “I don’t stand by my players” ? he will say that even if he didn’t believe it. For “lifetime contract” millions of dollars. I would too, this is he’s livelihood
I hope the boosters run him out of town
Reason he got the contract is because of the elite level recruiting from the past and present at the time.
Um you want to keep your career as long as you can. In your logic is become a millionaire and mess around and lose what made you a millionaire
. Logic is off man.My logic isn't off, I was responding in context to the other post. Clearly what you said is correct.Reason he got the contract is because of the elite level recruiting from the past and present at the time.
Um you want to keep your career as long as you can. In your logic is become a millionaire and mess around and lose what made you a millionaire
I stand by my kids too . . . but always try to council them and explain when they are wrong or going about things the wrong way. Cal is dropping the ball on this.
The players are all good kids, you can tell that. But they are kids and dont always understand things the way they should and just follow trends without thinking things through.
When I heard Brooks simple mindedly repeat the phrase "its like they are hunting us down" in the preseason in reference to a police shooting with out anyone challenging him or discussing with him why he said, it showed me clearly then that Cal advocated any position he had of being a mentor or counselor to them. He just took the position that I'm with them right or wrong no matter what they say or do which was the easy, comfortable and politically correct position to take. He just patted them on the head and said - "your right" Keion without discussing a word about whether that was right or wrong.
The problem is this, Cal's position and this kind of pat on the head and go along at any expense stance is exactly how all of this got blown into the national crisis it has as well. It started with a legitimate issue of excessive force a few isolated instances (none of which showed any signs of involving racial issues) and because they were caught on video and put on social media they created an emotional response that allowed it to grow from the more isolated issue it really was, to "the country is racist and police are hunting us down". Its just a damn shame no grown ups stepped in to give any response and counsel and provide just a little bit of reason to go along with the emotion.
What Cal fails to realize is what he does is nothing but perpetuate that false impresson and thus perpetuate the distrust, frustration and division he claims he wants to fix.
The players are all good kids, you can tell that. But they are kids and dont always understand things the way they should and just follow trends without thinking things through.
When I heard Brooks simple mindedly repeat the phrase "its like they are hunting us down" in the preseason in reference to a police shooting with out anyone challenging him or discussing with him why he said, it showed me clearly then that Cal advocated any position he had of being a mentor or counselor to them. He just took the position that I'm with them right or wrong no matter what they say or do which was the easy, comfortable and politically correct position to take. He just patted them on the head and said - "your right" Keion without discussing a word about whether that was right or wrong.
The problem is this, Cal's position and this kind of pat on the head and go along at any expense stance is exactly how all of this got blown into the national crisis it has as well. It started with a legitimate issue of excessive force a few isolated instances (none of which showed any signs of involving racial issues) and because they were caught on video and put on social media they created an emotional response that allowed it to grow from the more isolated issue it really was, to "the country is racist and police are hunting us down". Its just a damn shame no grown ups stepped in to give any response and counsel and provide just a little bit of reason to go along with the emotion.
What Cal fails to realize is what he does is nothing but perpetuate that false impresson and thus perpetuate the distrust, frustration and division he claims he wants to fix.
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I’m with you on most things, but not this . Especially your second sentence. Some schools take athletes that have beaten their girlfriends.
Good post. You’re right, Kentucky is a different animal. And I’m damn proud of that. Kentuckians get the hillbilly and toothless jokes and barefoot jokes and on and on constantly. So what, every joke makes me prouder to be here. I’ll take those over being a California lunatic, or New England Snob, or whatever. Kentuckians have common sense, something that has fell by the wayside in most other places. And we don’t pander to those trying to shove ******** down our throats. And we are patriotic. Cal is starting to, and is really gonna feel soon, the wrath of a bunch of pissed off barefoot hillbillies. And it’s not going to be pretty.
He knelt, he backed away from the gesture, a hit piece got him stirred up, now he feels the need to Scream in a Tweet
Obviously his lack of focus doing his job has affected team in a negative way
And yet the university supported team in protest
Cal got himself in a pickle when he tried to deflect the protest
Obviously his lack of focus doing his job has affected team in a negative way
And yet the university supported team in protest
Cal got himself in a pickle when he tried to deflect the protest
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finally, someone with a since of realism. how you managed this statement, without being called a racist is mind boggling!
I just don’t care . Got thick skin . I’ve got issues , plenty , lol , racism isn’t one of them .
Cal is all about himself. His son couldn’t outplay a broke-dick dog, yet he played tons of minutes in front of much better UK players.
He doesn't just yell on the court.
I’ve never wrote “puh-lease” on a message board...it’s not my style
but puh-lease. Tear down decades of progress by kneeling during an anthem as a show of unity? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve read today and I’ve read a lot of ridiculous things today
Just wait till March. Cal won't be standing with his players then, he'll be sitting on the couch with em watching everyone else.