I bet I could get him to go back and forth with me until this time tomorrow. I know I could. Just red eye posting back and forth.
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I will support him because he is the coach of uk
The reason we have to ride it out, is UK would get hammered by the national media if UK up and fired him mid season. You just can't do that to a HOF coach.
Heck, we cought flack for the way Tubby left UK.
It needs to be a mutual parting, or at least something that doesn't look like UK wronged Cal.
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Not trying to argue but how do you support losing?
No one will forget the St Peter’s loss, but this team was pretty good last season. Kentucky was a popular pick to win it all when the tournament began.
In my world I don’t care what the national media thinks. My retort is 4-13 isn’t remotely close to KY standards and the trend just didn’t start this year, we’ve been going in the wrong direction for a bit now. Not going to continue to roll with a coach (HOF be damned) who won’t even make a simple defensive adjustment during the course of a game. Uk didn’t wrong cal, cal wronged UK by putting NBA aspirations ahead of his purpose for being here.
Again I know that’s not happening but it would not bother me in the least if it did. I stated in another thread the other day I’d love to see him have to step away from the team ala coach K in the 90’s with his back issue. This team with any sensible coaching would be vastly better.
It will be structured and presented that way but in reality i doubt it ends that way. The Rupp mandatory retirement at 70 because of school policy comes to mind. Rupp wanted to stay but the powers that be were ready for him to go ,so they used the mandatory age rule to make it as clean as possible
I they fired Cal 5 minutes before tip-off on Wednesday night I would be all for it.
Here’s another scenario and where his logic takes him:
His daughter is dating a guy named Chad. He is kind to Chad, because his daughter loves Chad.
Chad proceeds to abuse his daughter, but his daughter wants to stay with Chad. She believes Chad can and will change.
Does he continue to be kind to Chad, because his daughter still loves Chad?
Apparently yes. Yes he does. Why? Because Chad, regardless of what Chad is doing to his daughter, is still her boyfriend.
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I don’t think many would come to Cal’s defense. He has never been that popular with the media before his decline. Most have hated him a very long time. Even if they did go after UK, who cares. We are about winning not paying 9 million a year for charity work or draft night. He can’t beat a top 20 team as it is so I really don’t think it would affect the season that much.
I’m not saying do it, but if he was fired I don’t think you’d see much of a drop off. He isnt really developing anyone at this point anyways and can’t figure out an obvious starting lineup that even a 5th grader would see as an obvious choice. Most coaches don’t need a tweak mid season to turn it around, they just coach from the beginning of the season.
I don't think the media would be the biggest problem. Firing a HOF coach in the middle of the season would make it that much harder to get the right coach. We already have the stigma of expecting to win every game by 20 points and go to the final four every year and our biggest stigma is we have unreal expectations and we'll run you outta town. Firing mid season would be like pouring gasoline on the fire.
And it's absolutely crucial we get the right coach. We need to have that lined up or our struggles now will be way worse if we mess that up. Cal is here till after next season and will resign, retire whatever. If we miraculously make a final four run then I'll get back on the ship, if only temporarily. I'm holding onto the tiniest bit of hope because most of the time we peak in February then go ice cold from 3. So maybe we'll find our shots in March. I know that's delusional but it is what it is.
This is college basketball.
People can blast all they want but it's not that serious.
I mean people can have their opinions of the guy but to compare it to an abusive relationship might just be a bit overboard.
See I don't even think it has to do with the timing of where we are at in the end. There's quite a number of media people questioning Cal's coaching and have been for years so I'm not entirely sure there would be a whole lot of backlash.
The reason it's not happening is because 1) contract and 2) I don't believe the man responsible for hiring him and firing him is at that point yet. A portion of the fanbase might be. But contrary to what some might feel on here, we don't make those decisions.
I can’t take people like this seriously anymore.
I just assume anyone that acts like they don’t understand what’s wrong, is a troll. And I hate the word troll, but can’t think of another one.
A) pee pee on the national media , they , for the most part , dont want UK to succeed anyway .. B) they hate Cal , the only reason they would write derogatory is to make UK look bad , not sympathy for Cal. C) I hate to break it to you , we are not exactly relevant to the national media , would be a Huge story in state , huge on this board , but outside Ky it isnt the biggest deal in the world , stays on the news 24 hours and gonzo . D) the state of Kentucky can move on and we can get over this awful time period and reunite as one , BBN . E) worrying about next years recruits is total silliness , you think he's going to win something big at this point ? Lets be real please. . Everything comes to an end , his time is now , do it today so on Wed our fine group of players , and yes they are very good , take the floor playing loose and with smiles and we get back to being ourselves ... its rip the band aide off time , slowly peeling it just delays the inevitable .
Oh yeah, if Barnhart fired Cal tomorrow, I wouldn't hate it. But he better have a plan in place before he does that.
KL, Bass and Ed? They have made cameo appearances, but they haven't stayed long.
I think a lot of people in the national media would make a lot of noise, especially guys like Vitale, who loves to get loud and call people out, and Seth Greenberg, who is a Cal defender.
I just want to make sure any potential replacements wouldn't view that as a disrespectful action, but I highly doubt they would, they want that chair Cal is sitting in.
If Mitch was smart, he would convince Cal to just take a different position at UK instead of buying him out.
It was a hypothetical scenario. We all inow Barney is too much of a candy *** and we know the buyout is too large.
Not comparing it to that, just revealing what his logic looks like in another scenario.
As long as Cal’s the coach, Cal is his man, regardless of Cal’s performance.
I don’t understand how we have fans that are defending the current state of our program.
We’ve had a 9-16 season and had people whining daily afterwards to give Cal a “mulligan”. Had a mod that year dogging our own fanbase because he wanted Cal to have a “mulligan”. Worst season in Kentucky history but Cal didn’t deserve any criticism according to some Cal fans on here.
Starting the 2019-2020 season we’re ranked number one in the country and lose in rupp arena to Evansville. According to some he didn’t deserve criticism for that either.
Last year we lose to St Peters with a team that many were picking to win the tournament. Some of you made excuses for that ****. SMH it’s easy to follow the pattern here.
This year we lose to a Michigan state team that is now 7-4 in the champions classic. Speaking of that tournament in the last 6 basketball seasons including this one, we have a record of 1-5 in that tournament. Throw in there a 34 point loss to Duke in one of those games. But… Cal don’t deserve criticism for that either according to some.
It’s common sense that Cal has been terrible lately and it shows how ridiculous it is for some on here to say you’re Kentucky fans when you make excuses for this. Some of you make complete fools of yourselves over it and I’d say when rival fans read our board they get a good laugh at some of your posts. Cal has absolutely got to change and any REAL Kentucky fan knows thats the truth.
We’ve had a 9-16 season and had people whining daily afterwards to give Cal a “mulligan”. Had a mod that year dogging our own fanbase because he wanted Cal to have a “mulligan”. Worst season in Kentucky history but Cal didn’t deserve any criticism according to some Cal fans on here.
Starting the 2019-2020 season we’re ranked number one in the country and lose in rupp arena to Evansville. According to some he didn’t deserve criticism for that either.
Last year we lose to St Peters with a team that many were picking to win the tournament. Some of you made excuses for that ****. SMH it’s easy to follow the pattern here.
This year we lose to a Michigan state team that is now 7-4 in the champions classic. Speaking of that tournament in the last 6 basketball seasons including this one, we have a record of 1-5 in that tournament. Throw in there a 34 point loss to Duke in one of those games. But… Cal don’t deserve criticism for that either according to some.
It’s common sense that Cal has been terrible lately and it shows how ridiculous it is for some on here to say you’re Kentucky fans when you make excuses for this. Some of you make complete fools of yourselves over it and I’d say when rival fans read our board they get a good laugh at some of your posts. Cal has absolutely got to change and any REAL Kentucky fan knows thats the truth.
Double Digit Cal has already burned Camelot now he is hoping to making it just a memory.
Why do you assume after next year Cal would resign or be fired, or tap out in any form? That’s just speculation because of his buyout dropping some.
I guess the difference in those two senarios tho is however bad it is you can get out of that relationship.
We are kind of stuck with Cal whether we like it or not. We don't get to decide on that relationship. Until he leaves, we are kind of married to it lol.
You can't even spell your stupid insult correctly.
Nobody is baiting anything. It’s a simple question that I would literally ask anybody if we were sitting around bullshitting.
If you can’t have a legit conversation like an adult, sign off, everyone is tired of your old man schtick.
Well let me ask. With this idiotic fan base, what coach do you think would be willing to come down here and deal with this bullsh*t day in and day out. I'm telling you. When Cal leaves, we take a major step back. And yes, even further than we are now. A new coach is not the solution.
What an idiotic statement.Yes no coach would want to come here and make millions.
This old bit.
How dumb. Do you think UK fans are the only ones that are critical? If so, you live under a rock.
You're not smart (that's the nicest way I can put that btw) if you think damn near every coach in the country would not crawl to Lexington to take the UK job.
You guys crack me up how you think UK fans are somehow the worst fans in sports. Even Nick Saban gets critisized by Alabama fans.
Do better.
I didn’t? I looked again. It’s spelled exactly as intended. It may have been a bit sophisticated for the PlayStation .
Yes you were baiting with the thread Jeffie Poo. You got called on it and you are throwing your very predictable temper tantrum. Proceed with your kicking and screeching. Did you do that when the ref made bad calls in church league?
There are no Cal supporters. That is a term you and the other KY haters coined to insult anyone that supports KY basketball.
You make yourself look worse with every post. Keep posting troll, show us more of your brilliance.
Did throwing tantrums like this work with mommy? It’s kinda your signature response. Inquiring minds….
Come on, you can do better than that boy. You're the king of the trolls, hit me with the good stuff, don't save it for Morg, I want the good stuff.
Save it? Show some intelligence to deserve it.
And stop hiding in the blue mist and acting like you are typical. Most here did not develop their basketball acumen on church league and PlayStation.