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kyjeff1

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Respectfully disagree. Askew is the slowest PG I’ve ever seen at UK. You can’t practice speed. He’ll never be fast enough to make us ‘Kentucky good’ no matter how long he stays.
No, I never said he was going to be Dearron Fox, but he can be a damn good college pg. Arcidiacono or Alvarado (Georgia Tech pg) type player. Those guys sucked as freshmen, but through weight training, conditioning and experience, they became great college veteran point guards.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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Respectfully disagree. Askew is the slowest PG I’ve ever seen at UK. You can’t practice speed. He’ll never be fast enough to make us ‘Kentucky good’ no matter how long he stays.

he’s the kinda guy that has a great year but gets eaten alive by the top 10 type teams in the country . No Way we do anything significant with him a the PG
 
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BourbonBalz

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he’s the kinda guy that has a great year but gets eaten alive by the top 10 type teams in the country . No Way we do anything significant with him a the PG
This year I agree. For four years, I greatly disagree. Anthony Epps wasn’t a speedster, or a great shooter, or a highly ranked player. He WAS a winner and he developed over time. He was tough and he was a team guy. He was exactly what that enormously talented team needed. Pitino tried to replace him in the lineup and it failed miserably. Askew could be the same in 2-3 years if he sticks with it. I’m not saying he will, but he could. Writing him completely off at this point is just not very bright.
 

know1

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This year I agree. For four years, I greatly disagree. Anthony Epps wasn’t a speedster, or a great shooter, or a highly ranked player. He WAS a winner and he developed over time. He was tough and he was a team guy. He was exactly what that enormously talented team needed. Pitino tried to replace him in the lineup and it failed miserably. Askew could be the same in 2-3 years if he sticks with it. I’m not saying he will, but he could. Writing him completely off at this point is just not very bright.
Please don't compare Askew to Epps. That's insulting.
 

KyFaninNC

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This year I agree. For four years, I greatly disagree. Anthony Epps wasn’t a speedster, or a great shooter, or a highly ranked player. He WAS a winner and he developed over time. He was tough and he was a team guy. He was exactly what that enormously talented team needed. Pitino tried to replace him in the lineup and it failed miserably. Askew could be the same in 2-3 years if he sticks with it. I’m not saying he will, but he could. Writing him completely off at this point is just not very bright.
Maybe with a different coach that actually has an offensive system to teach. If Cal stays, Askew will never be any better.
 

carolinacat

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he’s the kinda guy that has a great year but gets eaten alive by the top 10 type teams in the country . No Way we do anything significant with him a the PG
Agree. I'm sure he'll get better, but he has a low ceiling. At times he looks OK against mediocre guards. He just doesn't do anything particularly well.
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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This year I agree. For four years, I greatly disagree. Anthony Epps wasn’t a speedster, or a great shooter, or a highly ranked player. He WAS a winner and he developed over time. He was tough and he was a team guy. He was exactly what that enormously talented team needed. Pitino tried to replace him in the lineup and it failed miserably. Askew could be the same in 2-3 years if he sticks with it. I’m not saying he will, but he could. Writing him completely off at this point is just not very bright.

Im kinda on board with what you are getting at , but Epps didn’t play in this mess of an offense . I think Askew could grow into a very good player , but his lack of foot speed is always going to get him toasted on D , esp if you get a EE or a FF . And also , PGs don’t exactly stay around long at UK , your theory sounds decent , but thinking he stays 4 years and turns into Epps and not getting recruited over is not very bright . You think Cal brings. In a hot shot PG and doesn’t bench Askew ? I can’t see it .
 

BourbonBalz

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Im kinda on board with what you are getting at , but Epps didn’t play in this mess of an offense . I think Askew could grow into a very good player , but his lack of foot speed is always going to get him toasted on D , esp if you get a EE or a FF . And also , PGs don’t exactly stay around long at UK , your theory sounds decent , but thinking he stays 4 years and turns into Epps and not getting recruited over is not very bright . You think Cal brings. In a hot shot PG and doesn’t bench Askew ? I can’t see it .
I don‘t know. He hasn’t been killing it on the recruiting trail the last few years. At least not like he used to.
 

CatStucknWA

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I loved it when we brought in Cal to be the HC...but it appears the game has left him in the dust. There is zero spacing in the offensive "scheme" (if you can even call it that), and coaches have figured out how to defend Cal's 1 page play book. We are not a threat inside, nor do we have anyone that can take off the dribble - so defenses can face up on us without any worry of a back door/cut/etc...
I thought we played a bit better on D tonight, didn't give up near as many layups (but still gave up too many).

Cal has failed to adapt to the players he has - he is forcing them to adapt to him.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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I don‘t know. He hasn’t been killing it on the recruiting trail the last few years. At least not like he used to.
Correct , and you said Epps had The luxury of playing with great talent , experienced talent too, in a solid offense , Askew isn’t going to have that advantage
 
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BourbonBalz

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Correct , and you said Epps had The luxury of playing with great talent , experienced talent too, in a solid offense , Askew isn’t going to have that advantage
Well, I’m hoping some changes are coming. Cal either needs to realize the crap he’s running isn’t working or he needs to hang it up. I won’t hold my breath on either, but I can hope.
 
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SmedMoley

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He has fed us the same BS the last couple of months. Everyone should know what he is going to say. Here is some more..
Players are crushed
Left it on the floor tonight
To many late turnovers
Getting better, going back to work
Bruiser is going to watch some film
I see these guys in practice every day
I know my team
 
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hahahahahaha Cal saying we dont have a guy to get past his man............... Did this dementia patient watch tape on any recruit at all? Graf on here was telling people last year that Askew isnt a driver and not a Cal type pg... maybe Graf should be recruiting for UK instead of Cal.

or Justice or Barbee or Flint.
 

ck-2

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All this arguing about Askew is pointless. Cal will recruit over anyway. This is Askew’s year next year will be someone else’s.
That’s another reason why it’s hard to retain players in Cal’s system.
 
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fatguy87

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Stop playing 2-3 bigs in our lineups and spread the floor. A crappy team, time and time again, that comes to Rupp from the dregs of D1 basketball has a guy or two who can penetrate against us. It's not because they have more talented guards, but rather because they spread the floor well. If you require a player with otherworldly speed, preternatural handles, and/or godlike insight to make your offensive system a success, it's probably time to rethink your system. Those guys don't grow on trees.
 
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CatStucknWA

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Does Cal play multiple bigs as an acknowledgement that we cannot stop penetration? If so, then Jackson shouldn't leave the floor.
We know Sarr isn't a "back to the basket" 7 footer on offense, but his defense (or help defense to be more exact) is a huge weakness on the interior. He is slow to react, and doesn't have that 7 footers mindset that "i'm going to block any shot that comes in here".

I think Sarr's lacking is a huge factor in our inability to win games
 

kennyskywalker34

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Jesus Christ add in a "Rock Fight" and "we tried some new things that didn't work out" and its him
Add in his latest saying the last couple years now.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS. Followed by something stupid he always comes up with when talking to Tom pre or post game.
 

UKCatNnc

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The "Uncoached..ables"!! They may win another 5 or 6 games and all go to the NBA!! - A big year for the coach!