Holy **** you're dense. You're seriously trying to use this to play make-believe and act like it means the Benny lineup changed.
You're some kind of special.
Cal just can't help himself
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You're some kind of special.
I mean, yea, when you change a player in the starting lineup, you're thus changing the starting lineup, which you coined the benny lineup. So, yea, the benny lineup is changing.
Also, if you were correct about the benny lineup, why would you need to change that lineup? That sure makes it sound like maybe you weren't right after all.
I didn't say it, you did!
"If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
Again, if you were right about the benny lineup, why would you need to change it?
If Oscar was a part of your benny lineup, which you claim to be right about, why would you need to change it if you were right?
If Cal could help himself, we'd have 3 more titles. He's a fkn caricature at this point. He had to have one of his players tell him to play zone...
What kinda clown with really good talent and backing making 9M can't figure this out?
Somebody needs to check his medicine cabinet to see if he's smoking the good weed and fire him for doing so. A middle school basketball player knows when his team should go to zone and this bozo can't figure it out? Remember when people thought this dumbass was going to catch Wooden's title record at UK?
The ONLY RECORD he's going to set is most top 5 and top 10 classes not to win a title, and probably most draft picks to regress while in college only to pay well in the NBA. His new book, "How To Do Less With More - My time milking clock and a loving fan base, making shooters look bad, and still living like a king!" Is already a best seller, since we've all been force fed every page
Technically it's not smoking, because nothing Cal has is hot, (except what he used to know about coaching going up in flames in that head of his). He thinks Cal's package is either a whistle or a candy cigarette
Look he is a creature of habit. Like us all. He will not change and it will continue to bug a bunch of us. I just decided to let it go and move on. Cal will always justify himself, he will always deflect. He is like a politician. Just yell squirrel so we stop and look. We all just dogs to him. lol
I don’t know why they hate me so bad. I don’t criticize Cal very much. I give him credit when he does a good job. Idk what the deal is. I guess even fair criticisms aren’t allowed with them?
It's just society no longer being able to hear opposite opinions and accept them as such. If you aren't towing the status quo, regardless of the side you align with, you're pushed out as an outcast who stirs the pot, trolls and so forth. We have regressed to be people who can no longer accept or even tolerate differences.
Lol he's terrible tho. We gotta accept that we are not longer good at a top program because of him yet he goes after the only reason why the place is great to begin with. Us the fans.
Just because a different guy starts, doesn't mean the freaking metrics change.
How do you not get this? How do you not understand that there is a Benny line-up, but that doesn't mean it's a machine that is going to just go 4 months and all 5 of those players are never going to struggle, or get injured and it doesn't mean you exclusively play those 5 players, no matter what.
CJ is injured, it means someone else has to play. Reeves had a horrid shooting game last Wednesday, take him out and put someone else in. Wallace will need a rest, take him out and put Wheeler in and damn man, if Oscar is struggling to stop dribble drive, try someone else. Put Collins in, if he plays well, keep him in there. This isn't hard.
That doesn't mean the benny line-up changed. It means you play someone else until that guy figures it out.
I joke around on here a lot. I usually aggravate the ones that act like we’re all stupid so that’s probably got a lot to do with it lol
I didn't think anyone hated you, I think you are more apt to rwason with others when they come at you. You're not a confrontational person.
LeadBelly (Sunshine boy), just loves to stir the pot. He's not here to have a casual conversation, he's here to ignorantly debate. He tries to play mind games, but everyone is on to him.
I know, what am I thinking? Why would anyone think when the starters are changed the starting lineup changes? That's just craziness on my part.
So, you're saying the benny lineup wasn't actually the solution then?
So, the benny lineup was moldable based on who was playing well?
When did the benny lineup ever actually play together, btw? I sure don't remember Livingston at the 4 very much. I don't remember Reeves, Fredrick and Wallace getting much run together. You also said the benny line-up didn't come about until mod January and you were already calling for Collins, who you ragged on all January and basically said should never play basketball again, to take Oscar's starting spot and minutes in early February.
So, again, your saying your benny lineup wasn't actually the solution. The solution was playing the hot 5 at the time. That was what I said to start with.
It means the benny lineup never worked and never really was a thing. It was always just find the best 5 for that game and go with it until it doesn't work anymore. Which is what I said to begin with. So, you are admitting you were never right about the benny lineup.
I don't act like everyone is stupid, just most of them. And even you know a strong percentage of them are.I joke around on here a lot. I usually aggravate the ones that act like we’re all stupid so that’s probably got a lot to do with it lol
Yet another alt mod to block.The OP never starts a positive thread, always 100 negative towards Cal after every game. He hunts for anything he can find to rile the troops up right after each game. Pretty sure that’s a troll but the hate Cal club looks the other way. Pathetic.
Cal loves our fanbase but he trolls that 1% of deadbeats that see him as nothing but a plow horse, are soft as mashed potatoes and are t loyal to anything. They get angry easily because they know he’s talking directly to them.
The fans were right about who should have been playing. We noticed it in November it was a hot topic through January. That can't be denied. The metrics are what they are.
Now, through injuries and individual struggles, the starting lineup has changed multiple times.
Why is it so hard for you to figure out that some players have struggled that weren't struggling earlier?
The best lineup right now is whoever is healthy, we don't have enough players to even have very many choices, so yeah, the starting lineup has to change. This is common sense.
None of this takes away from the fact that the fans were right. In November/December/January, the Benny lineup was the most efficient lineup in the country. It most likely isn't now, but that's not the topic at hand.
If you had to change the lineup because it wasn't working, then you weren't right.
Your actual original Benny lineup hasn't even played more than 5 minutes together all season, which included Livingston at the 4. So you were never actually right about it. And the benny lineup has had about 10 variations at this point just depending on who wad playing well. Your's even included a Collins variant.
You keep living with your faux validation since that's what you seek. I'll just let the reality speak for itself.
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
Wrong. It was a real thing. Wheeler at pg and Collins at the 4 was killing us, but Cal kept going to it, then he doubled down and played Ware crazy long minutes.
In December, the Basketball Benny's called for Wallace/CJ/Reeves/Livingston/Oscar. Cal rarely played that lineup, but that is the best lineup he could put on the floor based on their efficiency numbers.
Now, I'm going to explain something to you that you obviously don't understand. Players improve at different rates throughout the season. Players also get injured. So right now, if we were to vote on it, the Benny lineup would be different. Toppin has gotten 10 times better, CJ has regressed and dealt with injuries.
So, it shouldn’t be hard for you to figure out who should be playing the bulk of the minutes now. Today's Benny line-up is different than the December version.
Do you understand now? Prolly not.
If you have to change the Benny lineup, it wasn't working??? Have you ever played sports?If you had to change the lineup because it wasn't working, then you weren't right.
Your actual original Benny lineup hasn't even played more than 5 minutes together all season, which included Livingston at the 4. So you were never actually right about it. And the benny lineup has had about 10 variations at this point just depending on who wad playing well. Your's even included a Collins variant.
You keep living with your faux validation since that's what you seek. I'll just let the reality speak for itself.
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
You do realize there has been injuries, one player has regressed (CJ) and two have greatly improved (Toppin and Livingston).
Just because a set 5 was best in December, doesn't mean it will stay that way. If you ever played sports, you would understand why.
Yeah, Cal hasn't played the Benny line-up but 5 minutes… . you say that as we sit here with 10 losses. Thanks for proving my point.
But you were literally calling for Collins to start and take Oscars minutes after a good game in February. And that was after you bashed him all January.
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
What were the efficiency numbers for that lineup? Please provide your source.
I can't wait until you realize you have no idea what you're talking about again. Little hint: Toppin is at the 4 in that lineup, not Livingston. So, again. Your benny lineup wasn't correct. I understand the Benny lineup changes based on who is playing well at the time, which is what I have said since the beginning. I am just getting you to admit it now.
I agree, the benny lineup has changed to fit whoever is playing well at the time, which is why there was never a set benny lineup and why you weren't right about it. Thank you for finally agreeing I was correct! Goodnight!
We've been through this, you obviously suck at reading.But you were literally calling for Collins to start and take Oscars minutes after a good game in February. And that was after you bashed him all January.
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
What were the efficiency numbers for that lineup? Please provide your source.
I understand the Benny lineup changes based on who is playing well at the time, which is what I have said since the beginning. I am just getting you to admit it now.
There was a benny lineup. From November through January, it was very obvious. Injuries, CJ's regression/injuries, Toppin's progression and Livingston's progression, have changed that.
@kyjeff1
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
It's all been explained to you over and over. You just don't understand, it's a YOU problem.
Now you're agreeing Collins did become a part of your benny lineup, which you have been assuring us most of this thread you didn't, even though it's blatantly obvious he did.
Your words:
"He came to a fork in the road at the pg position and kind of made the right decision (he’s been going back to Wheeler more lately). He convinced Wheeler he was injured and the guys went out and beat Tennessee.
Now he's at another crossroads, only this time, it's at the 5 spot. Thing is, it's been a problem all year long, but he hasn't fixed it. Oscar, as much as none of us wants to admit it, is not defending the paint and our 4 spot isn’t helping much either. We have no rim protection and Oscar is not taking away ball penetration.
Now, Cal has options. Onyenso and Collins are good rim protectors, but does Cal have the balls to play Oscar less?
Is Cal going to just stay with Oscar and burn the season, or is he going to make a change?
Thing is, Oscar is getting swallowed up when we have the ball. He might do well against UGA on Saturday, but that's not saying much. Tuesday night put a big florescent hilghighter on our problems in the paint.
Now, Cal could show Oscar what he's doing wrong and tell him to stop worrying about picking up fouls, but it’s February, they've been working on that all year.
I really believe Oscar is playing matador type defense to prevent foul trouble, but that's not going to work.
If I'm Cal, I go with this lineup and I focus on spreading the court.
Wallace
CJ
Reeves
Livingston or Toppin
Collins
Reeves should be playing more and I also think Adou should be getting some time at the 3.
Sub Oscar in and see how it goes. If he is performing, leave him in there until he gets swallowed up again, or gives up easy baskets, but Collins has showed enough at this point, he should get that spot if Oscar can't fix his issues."
You could have saved yourself a lot of time and embarrassment and just admitted that from the get go. It was obvious to everyone from the time I linked your previous thread.
You ever going to show us the metrics from the Wallace, Cj, Reeves, Livingston, Oscar starting 5 you are convinced is the best?
The rooferee says hello on two of those titles. Without a doubt he cost us two critical games!!
I don't think you understand how it works. Me taking it isn't going to help your lack of logic.
You taking focus factor, would help your serious lack of reading comprehension.
Theirs been one person that I can honestly say that I can’t get along with on here. His posts make me mad pretty easily. You probably know who I’m talking about. He is always taking shots at fans and players on the team, but acts like Cal doesn’t make any mistakes. He made a thread blaming 3-4 losses all on Cj Frederick. People like that I just can’t reason with them when they are that irrational.
I'm not sure who that is, several posters come to mind. This place is littered with Cal excuse makers.
Yes, you're definitely perfect at lacking reading comprehension.