Buh bye, Trump tariffs!

yoshi121374

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That could get sticky but I see companies being due no money as the tariffs are continuing unabated under other provisions. FedEx sued yesterday.

Ole Tigergrowls and those "feelings". Hate to tell you, but that isn't how legal rulings are decided.

He literally broke the law and the most conservative court perhaps in history, with multiple hand picked judges agreed that it was illegal.
 

TigerGrowls

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Ole Tigergrowls and those "feelings". Hate to tell you, but that isn't how legal rulings are decided.

He literally broke the law and the most conservative court perhaps in history, with multiple hand picked judges agreed that it was illegal.
There is a huge difference between losing a ruling at scotus and saying he was breaking the law captain overkill. They basically said the IEEPA law is not for tariffs with no end date. Trump has multiple other laws to continue the tariffs so no harm no foul imo.
 

yoshi121374

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There is a huge difference between losing a ruling at scotus and saying he was breaking the law captain overkill. They basically said the IEEPA law is not for tariffs with no end date. Trump has multiple other laws to continue the tariffs so no harm no foul imo.

So he literally wrote an executive order that was overturned by the Supreme Court because it wasn't legal. How else do you frame that?

He will try other avenues, all of which are going to hurt the Republicans and he doesn't care because he's stubborn. Anybody check their retirement accounts yesterday?
 
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TigerGrowls

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So he literally wrote an executive order that was overturned by the Supreme Court because it wasn't legal. How else do you frame that?

He will try other avenues, all of which are going to hurt the Republicans and he doesn't care because he's stubborn. Anybody check their retirement accounts yesterday?
You are the first one I have heard say Trump broke the law.
 

yoshi121374

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You are the first one I have heard say Trump broke the law.

Other than the Supreme Court?

Google ai:

did trump's tariffs break the law.


Yes, in a February 2026 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court decided 6-3 that broad tariffs imposed by Donald Trump under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) were unlawful. The Court ruled that the President lacked the authority to unilaterally impose these duties, as the Constitution grants taxing power to Congress, not the executive branch.

Key details regarding the ruling:
The Ruling: The Court found that the tariffs violated federal law because IEEPA does not grant the president unchecked authority to levy tariffs in this manner.
Scope: The decision struck down wide-ranging tariffs imposed on imports from various countries, which were justified by the administration as a response to national emergencies.
Dissent: Justices Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissented, arguing that the ruling improperly restricted the president's statutory powers and that the administration simply used the wrong statutory box.
Refunds: The ruling triggered a massive, complex process for businesses to seek refunds on billions of dollars in tariffs paid, with potential for years of litigation.

Following the decision, the administration began exploring other, more limited statutory authorities to continue its trade agenda.
 
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TigerGrowls

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Other than the Supreme Court?

Google ai:

did trump's tariffs break the law.


Yes, in a February 2026 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court decided 6-3 that broad tariffs imposed by Donald Trump under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) were unlawful. The Court ruled that the President lacked the authority to unilaterally impose these duties, as the Constitution grants taxing power to Congress, not the executive branch.

Key details regarding the ruling:
The Ruling: The Court found that the tariffs violated federal law because IEEPA does not grant the president unchecked authority to levy tariffs in this manner.
Scope: The decision struck down wide-ranging tariffs imposed on imports from various countries, which were justified by the administration as a response to national emergencies.
Dissent: Justices Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissented, arguing that the ruling improperly restricted the president's statutory powers and that the administration simply used the wrong statutory box.
Refunds: The ruling triggered a massive, complex process for businesses to seek refunds on billions of dollars in tariffs paid, with potential for years of litigation.

Following the decision, the administration began exploring other, more limited statutory authorities to continue its trade agenda.
Feeble attempt at labeling the decision.
 

baltimorened

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That could get sticky but I see companies being due no money as the tariffs are continuing unabated under other provisions. FedEx sued yesterday.
you may be right. but that seems to be applying tariffs (under new laws) retroactively. I doubt that will pass legal muster either.
 
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Feeble attempt at labeling the decision.

When you don't follow the law, you're breaking the law. The USSCt ruled he wasn't following the law - i.e. he broke the law.

This is not disputable. If all your Qanon conspiracy psychosis didn't make you look unreasonable enough, trying to defend your Fuhrer by saying "I refuse to say that when he broke the law he broke the law," makes you look like such a spineless, mindless bootlicking cuck toadie ... Trump could bang your wife in front of you, and (after you'd privately thanked him and told him he gave her the best banging she's ever had, and you could never be man enough to bang her like that) when people mocked you for it, you'd dispute that he banged your wife ... "feeble attempt at labeling the activity" ... because you don't want anyone to say anything bad about your orange messiah.

Again, if you're a normal person and you're just trolling the board in order to make MAGAts look as awful as possible - kudos. If this is actually reflective of what you believe ... get help.
 
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Moogy

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That could get sticky but I see companies being due no money as the tariffs are continuing unabated under other provisions. FedEx sued yesterday.

The tariffs are not continuing unabated. He is instituting new tariffs, allegedly legal under a completely different legal framework, that he's going to try to make as similar to the tariffs that were just deemed illegally levied as possible. This does nothing to change the fact that the prior tariffs were deemed unlawful, and does nothing to excuse away any responsibility for unlawfully causing economic harm to various parties under the illegal tariffs.
 
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TequilasForLoss

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So he literally wrote an executive order that was overturned by the Supreme Court because it wasn't legal. How else do you frame that?

He will try other avenues, all of which are going to hurt the Republicans and he doesn't care because he's stubborn. Anybody check their retirement accounts yesterday?
imagine his reaction if an Obama EO that cost our pockets trillions of dollars had been overturned by the high court.
 
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TigerGrowls

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The tariffs are not continuing unabated. He is instituting new tariffs, allegedly legal under a completely different legal framework, that he's going to try to make as similar to the tariffs that were just deemed illegally levied as possible. This does nothing to change the fact that the prior tariffs were deemed unlawful, and does nothing to excuse away any responsibility for unlawfully causing economic harm to various parties under the illegal tariffs.
Tariffs are continuing bozos. Deal with it.
 

TigerGrowls

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imagine his reaction if an Obama EO that cost our pockets trillions of dollars had been overturned by the high court.
Tariffs haven't cost me anything. You are not smart. The number is not in the trillions and I doubt any of it is ever refunded. You libs said consumers paid the tariffs so why would any companies be due any refunds? I guess Trump could send all citizens checks around October and call it even. Happy now?
 

TigerGrowls

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Furthermore as I have said multi national corporations have made billions with vastly increased profits over the last 5 decades due to the false bill of goods sold to the American people. So called free trade has weakened America significantly. ******* them. They need to pay tariffs going forward unless they reshore.
 

dpic73

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Furthermore as I have said multi national corporations have made billions with vastly increased profits over the last 5 decades due to the false bill of goods sold to the American people. So called free trade has weakened America significantly. ******* them. They need to pay tariffs going forward unless they reshore.
And Trump has now pocketed many of our bilions for himself. **** him
 

Moogy

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Tariffs are continuing bozos. Deal with it.

This has nothing to do with your previous commentary re monies being due to companies, due to what were illegal tariffs.

Also, commas are your friend. Learn to use them, especially when trying to call others "bozos."
 
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TigerGrowls

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This has nothing to do with your previous commentary re monies being due to companies, due what were illegal tariffs.

Also, commas are your friend. Learn to use them, especially when trying to call others "bozos."
Im not here to take your grammar test.

#MAGA
 

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Dang peepaw, I was hoping your brief retirement from the board was a sign that you had wisened up but here you are spouting the same ole false drivel you did before.


LIE

LIE

LIE

Unemployment for blacks reached it's lowest point in history under Biden at 4.7% and is now back up to 7.2% after a high of 8.3% in November, double the national average, due to multiple policy decisions made in his second term that have direct negative impacts on blacks.

We have enough liars on the board without you adding to the mob so it's time for another, longer vacation from the forum.
But you gotta love the ALL CAPS. He's just precious.
 
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baltimorened

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John Roberts just did his best Soup Nazi imitation, telling Cheeto Hitler "No tariffs for you!"

The ruling was 6-3 against Cheeto. When a Supreme Court that has a 6-3 conservative majority votes 6-3 against a conservative President, he should know he just had his *** handed to him. Trump, of course, accepted the ruling gracefully. "Those justices who ruled against me are a disgrace to the nation! They're fools and lap dogs! I'm absolutely ashamed of them." LOL, that's good to know, Cheeto.

This calls for a toast tonight with a glass of quality Cabernet.
so, I guess it's safe to assume that inflation is going to fall by at least 1%..since the claim was that tariffs were adding that much to the rate.

Any ideas on how accurate that claim was? I guess we'll see
 

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so, I guess it's safe to assume that inflation is going to fall by at least 1%..since the claim was that tariffs were adding that much to the rate.

Any ideas on how accurate that claim was? I guess we'll see
I think substantial, across the board tariffs ARE inflationary. But in this particular case, their effect was likely muted because Trump announced them in advance and then cancelled, reimposed, and cancelled them several times. Then the courts finally cancelled them. So, aside from U.S. importers having time and opportunity to lay in supplies in anticipation of the tariffs, their on again off again implementation has blunted their effect. We will see how inflationary they are if they remain in place for any meaningful period of time.