Buffalo defensive player CPR performed

[RUhasarrived]

The NFL can push back the playoffs for one week to allow this game to be finished after Week 18.
The 2 week hiatus for the Super Bowl can be reduced to one week.

 

[Morrischiano2]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

 

[S.W.A.I.N]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

She’s on a FB chat with other critical care DRs and there’s a rumor out there that the player is placed on ECMO- which is a very serious procedure used as a last ditch.

Exactly what my wife who works in a Level 1 Critical Care Trauma Center said. You know, actual medical professionals, not like some idiots on this thread.

 

[4everpsu]

Penn State fan here
While I was celebrating a Rose Bowl win, I was devastated by the news regarding Hamlin. God Bless Hamlin and may he have a 100% recovery from these injuries.

I pray for a complete recovery.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

Rumors are a terrible thing at a time like this. But as a Bills fan I appreciate any information from a actual medical perspective.

 

[devoted2ru]

God watch over this young man and help him to achieve a full recovery.

Just an extremely sad thing to see happen to someone only 24 years old and in peak physical condition. -We all wish him only the very best.

 

[Rokodesh]

Update from his agent

Thank god. I read he was in stable condition now.

Seems like he'll still be intubated at least until tomorrow, but praying for the best

 

[robcac26]

Commotio cordis was my initial thought as well. It's predictable which board members think the hit had nothing to do with the collapse.

 

[Saint Puppy]

24 years old, elite athlete in peak condition - life is just so fragile……prayers for the young man and his family!

 

[tico brown]

With the earlier tweet from someone else, who are we supposed to believe?

 

[RUtix4me]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

If this is anything like pvc’s, i had those very severly, and I kean severely. you could feel your heart beat out of rhythm, then you would go grey and start to faint. The the loss of circulation and fainting is not immediate. Having blood flow interrupted as you stand up is possible, then you fall like him.

 

[brgRC90]

I'm not sure that would be such a good idea. Seems unlikely they get anywhere near Hamlin tonight or in the immediate future. Doctors need to do all they can with minimal distractions.

I doubt any hospital will allow a massive influx of people to come inside to visit in the age of covid.

 

[Knight Shift]

Exactly what my wife who works in a Level 1 Critical Care Trauma Center said. You know, actual medical professionals, not like some idiots on this thread.

From a UCSD cardiologist I follow on Twitter who is very measured in what he posts:

 

[tico brown]

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Penn State fan here
While I was celebrating a Rose Bowl win, I was devastated by the news regarding Hamlin. God Bless Hamlin and may he have a 100% recovery from these injuries.

I pray for a complete recovery.

Thanks for prayers , especially posting right after a horribly negative post.

 

[tico brown]

 

[AdventureHasAName]

1971– Chuck Hughes of the Lions collapsed and died on the field…eerily reminiscent. Hope he’s OK.

Amazingly, Chuch Hughes had a heart attack earlier that season (not on the field) and they let him keep playing.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

This is what I’m seeing a lot of on Twitter, seems like the best explanation I’ve read. Check out the video below, similar delayed reaction to a hit

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

My best medical guess:

It was likely something called commotio cordis. Where the heart stops after a sudden & usually forceful chest impact. It's usually seen in teens, more commonly from an impact by a baseball but can certainly be from a hit by a tackle. It causes Ventricular fibrillation (where the heart doesn't really contract normally & fully). Immediate treatment with a defibrillator (AED) is critical. I read that it was used but I haven't seen how long it took before it was used.
If the 9 minutes of CPR is correct that's a long time. Brain anoxia starts after 6 minutes. Hopefully the medical teams recognized the issue immediately & worked quickly to get him the correct treatment on the field before transferring him to the hospital.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circep.111.962712

 

[RU4Real]

My best medical guess:

It was likely something called commotio cordis. Where the heart stops after a sudden & usually forceful chest impact. It's usually seen in teens, more commonly from an impact by a baseball but can certainly be from a hit by a tackle. It causes Ventricular fibrillation (where the heart doesn't really contract normally & fully). Immediate treatment with a defibrillator (AED) is critical. I read that it was used but I haven't seen how long it took before it was used.
If the 9 minutes of CPR is correct that's a long time. Brain anoxia starts after 6 minutes. Hopefully the medical teams recognized the issue immediately & worked quickly to get him the correct treatment on the field before transferring him to the hospital.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circep.111.962712

9 minutes worth of CPR isn't a long time in an emergent situation. I've seen / participated in many CPR calls that have gone that long. A few of them even resulted in good outcomes.**

I, personally, received CPR for 24 minutes prior to landing at the hospital. Anoxia isn't a concern if the CPR is good and the patient is being properly perfused. Typically one of the medics will be watching the monitor during the process and can offer feedback on the quality of pulses and perfusion, as they will display exactly the same way as with a conscious patient.

**It's important to note that a lot of the CPR performed by EMTs on scene is "courtesy CPR", i.e. the patient has been down for quite a while, is really already dead but somebody on scene started compressions prior to EMS arrival, at which point the responders are obligated to continue during transport.

 

[tico brown]

 

[mildone_rivals]

Seems like as good a way as most to show humanity in the face of potential tragedy. Nice to see.

 

[RUtix4me]

from his family

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Is it insensitive to ask when/how the might resume the game. It has some pretty big implications

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Is it insensitive to ask when/how the might resume the game. It has some pretty big implications

 

[RUtix4me]

Now that a decision has been made up to a point, how will the following play out:

1 NFL playoffs be affected
2. Vegas Books
3 Fantasy Football

 

[RU from Jersey_rivals]

If in fact it turns out to be commotio cordis you have to wonder if the older style of shoulder pads (covered the chest with hard plastic) would have or could have prevented this. Versus the current shoulder pads that look like a form of bubble wrap.

 

[HeywoodGiant]

My wife is a trauma doctor in a north jersey hospital.

Her inclination is that it commotio cordis. A massive hit to the chest can cause the heart rhythm to beat very irregularly and breathing can stop. Usually a defibrillator can reset the heart in one or two shocks.

Critical but usually not fatal if in proper professional care and defibrillated within a couple of minutes.

Where was the massive hit?

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Where was the massive hit?

It was a hard hit but the basically a typical football play.

Any updates on how he’s doing?

 

[Postman_1]

If in fact it turns out to be commotio cordis you have to wonder if the older style of shoulder pads (covered the chest with hard plastic) would have or could have prevented this. Versus the current shoulder pads that look like a form of bubble wrap.

I was watching an older Giants game last week and the difference in pad size is incredible. I understand they restrict movement and make u slower but they also protect you a lot more I would think?

 

[HeywoodGiant]

I was watching an older Giants game last week and the difference in pad size is incredible. I understand they restrict movement and make u slower but they also protect you a lot more I would think?

I can’t believe most don’t wear any knee, thigh or hip pads. I was padded head to toe in little league

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Damar Hamlin is from Mckees Rocks PA and played football at Central Catholic HS (same school as Dan Marino) played for the University of Pittsburgh (Safety). He was drafted in the NFL 6th round by Buffalo two years ago. Sponsored Toy Drives for Children to give back. Good man.

In critical condition but hope for a full recovery.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[yessir321]

Is it insensitive to ask when/how the might resume the game. It has some pretty big implications

I genuinely think they will call it a draw and issue both teams a tie. No one really knows what to do

 

[robcac26]

If in fact it turns out to be commotio cordis you have to wonder if the older style of shoulder pads (covered the chest with hard plastic) would have or could have prevented this. Versus the current shoulder pads that look like a form of bubble wrap.

I did some quick Googling and it appears that this is what most NFL players wear. Still looks like hard plastic to me. What I also found though is that since 1/1/22, lacrosse shoulder pads are required to meet commotio cordis safety standards. Perhaps all other contact sports should do the same. If today's football pads aren't designed to reduce the chances of commotio cordis, then I highly doubt the older ones were.

I was watching an older Giants game last week and the difference in pad size is incredible. I understand they restrict movement and make u slower but they also protect you a lot more I would think?

Bigger doesn't necessarily mean more protective. The materials and construction used in today's equipment are better than the old stuff.

Where was the massive hit?

From Dr. Corey Hebert, an actual doctor:

"The blow doesn’t have to be that harsh; it doesn’t have to be that severe. We’ve known about this for hundreds of years because there was actually an Asian fighter that would term it 'the touch of death.' If you time it just perfectly and hit the heart in such a way to make that happen, then the ventricle will not fill and that oxygenated blood which is in the left ventricle will not be dispersed to the body. And that is when you don’t have oxygen and you have cardiac arrest, and that is what we think probably happened here with this young man.”

I'm sure this might sound crazy to you, but I think there's a chance that actual medical professionals know this stuff better than average joe football fans.

 

[tico brown]

 

[yesrutgers01]

Exactly what my wife who works in a Level 1 Critical Care Trauma Center said. You know, actual medical professionals, not like some idiots on this thread.

Not to make light of the situation but the “idiots” on this thread- have mostly said that they were not experts..,

 

[yesrutgers01]

Most NFL players would go less pads over more. Interesting enough, many feel all the extra protection leads to more serious injury.

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

My best medical guess:

It was likely something called commotio cordis. Where the heart stops after a sudden & usually forceful chest impact. It's usually seen in teens, more commonly from an impact by a baseball but can certainly be from a hit by a tackle. It causes Ventricular fibrillation (where the heart doesn't really contract normally & fully). Immediate treatment with a defibrillator (AED) is critical. I read that it was used but I haven't seen how long it took before it was used.
If the 9 minutes of CPR is correct that's a long time. Brain anoxia starts after 6 minutes. Hopefully the medical teams recognized the issue immediately & worked quickly to get him the correct treatment on the field before transferring him to the hospital.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circep.111.962712

Has this happened before in the NFL or CFB ?

 

[SouthJerseyRU]

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Everyone’s an expert to such a bizarre occurrence from a routine football play.

Posting tweets from various randos or name dropping family members that work in hospitals to prove their beliefs is , weird.



I’m just praying for the dude