BRISCOE !
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Poised , took what was there and was efficient
Exactly. Didn't have eye popping stats but played " winning basketball " .
Perfect game from him on the offensive end. High efficiency, didn't force anything, made heady plays when needed.... he played his heart out on Jackson too but the size differential made it impossible for him to do too much.
I agree. I have been critical of Briscoe, but the way he played today is exactly what I wanted to see. A limited number of shots, a good turnover/assist ratio, grabbing the defensive rebound and getting the ball up the floor quickly to Monk and Fox.
As you've also pointed out, though, game in and game out he is at a huge disadvantage defensively. He was absolutely abused on that end of the court today.
If he is the great defensive player so many label him as, that all goes out the window when he's trying to guard small forwards. They overpower him inside, shoot right over the top of him, and drive right through him to the cup. If Monk doesn't bury that 3, we're all talking about Briscoe giving up the layup that preceded Monk's shot.
It's a real conundrum, because his offense today was great.
No. Jackson manhandled him. If he had taken as many shots as Monk, he would've scored 47. He scored 34 very efficiently, in 17 field goal attempts.
You can celebrate what he did offensively, but this is not a game where you want to praise his defense. Watch it again if you must.
Don't have to watch again, watch any time Willis and Gabriel were on him compared to Briscoe. Jackson is a hell of a player and played a great game. With the height difference, Briscoe did all he could on Jackson.
I think Briscoe kept Jackson from killing us. It was an assignment he was ill suited for and the guy could have done a lot more damage than he did.
Briscoe had to guard Jackson because our bigs like Wenyen and Willis are too slow laterally to keep up with the more mobile Jackson . Briscoe can keep up with him but he gives up height , it's a mismatch that UNC has in their favor . But it's not Briscoes fault because he is guarding a player that he shouldn't have too .
I thought he did better that anyone else possibly could have , maybe Fox could have done better but I don't think Cal wanted Fox to get in foul trouble . If Wenyen or Gabriel would have guarded Jackson then he could have had a MONK type game , Jacksons shot was falling tonight .
I thought he did better that anyone else possibly could have , maybe Fox could have done better but I don't think Cal wanted Fox to get in foul trouble . If Wenyen or Gabriel would have guarded Jackson then he could have had a MONK type game , Jacksons shot was falling tonight .
Briscoe played within himself. Great. His defense I won't speak of because he shouldn't have to guard someone that much taller than him. It is what it is.
I loved the way he played today. He had a disadvantage on D against Jackson, but forced him to take tough shots. Hit a huge 3, but I loved when he broke down UNC's defense and found Monk for the three. He was much more poised than in the UCLA game, and it showed when he pulled the ball back out instead of forcing a move to the hoop. He lead the team and let the game come to him
I love briscoe, that being said I see him back next yr along with weynen. Briscoe is exciting to watch and has improved greatly but I don't think he's ready for the NBA yet especially if they have him going as the last pick in the draft. I would welcome him back next yr with arms wide open along with weynen as we will have a very young team again next year
Well, if this is our best strategy going forward against elite SF's, which we will face in March, then it's going to be very difficult to cut down the nets. Because Jackson just took what the D gave him. He wasn't in superman mode like Monk. And every other elite forward will do exactly what was done to Briscoe today.
There may not be an answer to this problem. And that sucks. But I still don't think Briscoe slowed him down more than anyone else would have. He did whatever he wanted.
Briscoe played well on offense but got taken to the woodshed on defense. It wasn't just height, it was height plus being skilled and being able to shoot. Briscoe won't have that issue too many times this year, probably won't have that issue with anyone else the rest of the year actually
He will either stay four years or leave early and not be drafted. Not really a market for 6"3 shooting guards who can't shoot. Ideally, he sticks with us and plays the next couple years just as he played today - to his strengths.
I think his closeouts, regardless of who he is guarding, have been awful all year. If you go back through and watch every game, you'll find that other teams have been raining threes over Briscoe all year.
The other thing that bothered me today was that he took risks overplaying the perimeter pass and it led to a score each time.
Yeah his close outs have been bad. But Fox has had that issue as well as on the pick and pop. The issue they both have is the suck down to help instead of staying with the guy they are guarding
Jackson is a very good player and thought Briscoe did as good as his physical abilities allowed him to do. I don't think staying in front of him was as valuable as disturbing his shot which he couldn't do. I thought Briscoe was indeed a calming influence and played a solid game. We have a problem at the four spot and unless Willis or Gabriel step it up a notch, it could be our Achilles heel. We did however, beat the best team in the nation according to Jay Bilas.
And it seems like they're coached not to help and leave the jump shooter. So what gives? Do they just not trust the guys down low?
I love Briscoe but he lost millions tonight. Jackson killed him. He could not guard him at all. It shocked me. That said I have no idea who could guard him though.
I think he lost millions as soon as the season started and it was clear that his jumpshot was still broken.
But yeah. If you hang your hat on defense and your defense isn't good either, that's not good. Obviously it was a mismatch that Cal has to live with due to his personnel, but man he was awful defensively.
Wha scares me for him though, is how easily Jackson drove by him. Everything else makes sense given the mismatch, but not that.
There are a lot of annoying opinions in this thread. Someone will say something smart and then immediately say something foolish. Briscoe didn't cost himself millions tonight. One defensive lapse doesn't do that. He's one of the highest scorers on a high-scoring team. And his jump-shot isn't still broken. It isn't elite, but it's much improved over the previous year, as is his free throw shooting.
Having said all that, Briscoe got beat last night on the defensive end. It wasn't just Jackson shooting over him on the perimeter, Jackson was driving Briscoe to the basket. Given the height disparity, Briscoe needed to make his stand before Jackson was eight feet from the rim, either by disrupting Jackson's dribble or planting his feet. Not only did he do neither, he routinely lost Jackson off switches and ended up chasing him into the lane. Ugly, ugly game for Briscoe. Switch Briscoe for a top SF and we win that game 103-85.
Having said all that, Briscoe got beat last night on the defensive end. It wasn't just Jackson shooting over him on the perimeter, Jackson was driving Briscoe to the basket. Given the height disparity, Briscoe needed to make his stand before Jackson was eight feet from the rim, either by disrupting Jackson's dribble or planting his feet. Not only did he do neither, he routinely lost Jackson off switches and ended up chasing him into the lane. Ugly, ugly game for Briscoe. Switch Briscoe for a top SF and we win that game 103-85.
That's my only issue... We can't have his man getting 30+pts. I agree that he played his role well, but he is a defensive liability when guarding taller players who can score over him. If it weren't for Monk's amazing production, we lose that game because of Jackson's production.
Stated in another thread but I agree--except last 2 minutes when he lost himself. In last two minutes of game, he:
1. Drove strong--good play and then instead of trying to make a shot, he tried to draw a foul and threw up some garbage.
2. Loses Jackson completely and again-Jackson is a great scorer, who Briscoe gave up a lot in height but made hit shots for most of game--then late he loses him completely and gives up dagger 3 (can't happen) only to be followed by his worst decision of night....
3. Gets beat on back cut and then compounds it with an awful foul for the and 1 attempt (which luckily was missed--but also could've killed them as they offensive rebound off the miss).
Progress was the other 38 minutes of the game for him and overall offensive game. He needs to defer to better players as that will open things up for him and he did a wonderful job of that overall. Loved the play he drove and kicked and his 3pt attempt/hit was a great shot/good rhythm. When he goes "bully ball" in a crowd with this year's team he's in trouble--needs to drop more passes off and make sure he's got clear lane to drive/finish.
Defensively, think he's elite, and just credit Jackson but didn't care for how he played last 2 minutes and was seemingly frustrated and not focused. 2's can't end game for you, but 3pt shots and plays are daggers and luckily for him it ended up with 5 pts for UNC and not more.
I agree with the original poster that Briscoe played a smart game offensively and took what he was given and didn't force shots. This is in contrast to the UCLA game where he tried to force too many guarded shots up. On the defensive side he wasn't so great but it was a big size mismatch so I don't know how many should be surprised with what happened. I see improvement in his jump shot and free throw shooting as well. I believe he will go pro after this year and because of his physicality I think he very well could make it in the pros.
Hey man , congrats on the Syracuse win ! I was pulling hard for your guys !