Last night's game showed me on thing about this team. We are weaker with Fox and Briscoe on the floor at the same time. Having Mulder or Hawkins in adds someone the D had to watch outside which frees up space for Monk and Adebayo to go to work. When Fox and Briscoe are in together the only outside shooter that needs attention is Monk, this clogs up the lane and makes Adebayo ineffective. It looks like to me only one of those 2 guys at a time may be the way to go.
Briscoe & Fox
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Having Fox and Briscoe in the game together has it's downside but it is hard to make much of a case for Mulder yesterday. I like Mulder and have wanted to see him get more minutes all year but yesterday wasn't one of his better showings.
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I do not want to watch this team play a single minute without the competitive intensity of either Hawkins or Briscoe.
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Not the outing I hoped he'd have as a starter, but can see Mulder coming through and hitting some big shots in a tight game for us in March.
I was hoping to see more OUT OF Mulder... he did not take advantage and earn more mins... hope it was just jitters of starting, that threw him off.
I hope he let's Fox heal 100% before bringing him back... get Mulder and Dom and Willis more time; to get more comfortable. IMO we will need at least one them at some crucial point in the NCAAT
I hope he let's Fox heal 100% before bringing him back... get Mulder and Dom and Willis more time; to get more comfortable. IMO we will need at least one them at some crucial point in the NCAAT
Dom played well yesterday, Mulder did not.
I know that's an obvious statement but moving forward especially once Fox heals up....
I know that's an obvious statement but moving forward especially once Fox heals up....
Mulder did nothing to open up anything for anybody much less Monk , Malik ran through a series of screens to get open and he hit a bunch of contested shots . Mulder got his chance and did none of the things you guys said he could do , giving him faux credit for Monk going off on his own is fooling nobody . Mulder will get spot minutes for fouls , rest and play extended minutes if he's shooting good but nothing more than what he's already doing .
Hawkins opens up nothing as him and Mulder shot 2-12 for the game and Hawkins is a much worse shooter than Briscoe from two by 12% and 3 % worse from three . So how does a worse shooter open up anything ? They don't unless you just want Hawkins to play more and make stuff up to justify it . Hawkins is a backup and his performance showed why , he will remain a backup .
Hawkins opens up nothing as him and Mulder shot 2-12 for the game and Hawkins is a much worse shooter than Briscoe from two by 12% and 3 % worse from three . So how does a worse shooter open up anything ? They don't unless you just want Hawkins to play more and make stuff up to justify it . Hawkins is a backup and his performance showed why , he will remain a backup .
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I said the same thing. UK is a much better team offensively when Briscoe and Fox are not on the floor together. It's all about floor spacing and the defense having to respect shooters. Regardless of whether Mulder made shots yesterday or not, Florida could not pack 3 guys in the lane. It'll never happen, but I believe for this team to make a long run Fox and Briscoe can not spend extended periods of time on the floor together.
How many times does it have to be said. Hawkins is 11 for 41 from 3 for 26.8% while Briscoe is 14 for 48 for 29.2%. Hawk is not someone the other team has to keep an eye on at the 3 point line so he doesn't help with spacing at all and definitely not more so than Briscoe.
Been a big advocate for Mulder playing more but it's probably a little too late in the season to expect him to come in and play like a starter.
I thought Dom played his arse off yesterday.
I thought Dom played his arse off yesterday.
Our best five are:
Fox
Monk
Briscoe
Willis
Bam
Those five will get UK where we want to be...
Fox
Monk
Briscoe
Willis
Bam
Those five will get UK where we want to be...
I'm not a big fan of Briscoe and Fox on the court together either. Mulders scouting report opens up the lane more than Briscoe at the three.
I like having 2 capable shooters on the floor with Monk myself.
I like having 2 capable shooters on the floor with Monk myself.
Yeah, it's too late because he isn't and never has been good enough to start for this team. Let him play his role
Fox and Briscoe together isn't ideal, it just that we don't have anyone that can honestly replace that, and can initiate our offense.
All these kids are college players, and unfortunately they all have a lot of glaring issues. And, it takes a lot of time working on that weakness.
As long as you have WIlis and Monk on the court, to be honest...it really doesn't matter. You don't need shooter in all the position anyways.
All these kids are college players, and unfortunately they all have a lot of glaring issues. And, it takes a lot of time working on that weakness.
As long as you have WIlis and Monk on the court, to be honest...it really doesn't matter. You don't need shooter in all the position anyways.
Cal started him yesterday, not me... so take it up with him.
And yes, I know Fox was injured but lots of lineups he could've went with and he went with starting Mulder.
No scouting report is going to include a guy that hits one shot per game. Defense is all about stopping the one's that can beat you. If Monk doesn't open up the lane Mulder or anyone else you want to throw there isn't going to do it.
Mulder and Hawk are nice role players but no matter what his haters keep saying Briscoe is better.
Wow...Muldur, who's shot the ball well all year, gets his one game 21 minute chance and you completely write him off. However, in Gainesville, Briscoe shot 3-10, bricked all his FT's and 3 pt attempts, while Mulder was 3-6 (2-5 3pt). So, the facts suggest it's a push. But don't let those facts get in the way of your bias.
If only the proficiency of a basketball player could be reduced to points scored...
I think that Fox needs to run the team from the outside some.. Unless he's needed to score, then I think he should get the team in positions to score... Much like our point guard did against Florida.. If we have to have him scoring, then he can drive, or take a three..
The "point" is that you evaluate a player based on the whole body of work. Anyone can cherry-pick good and bad shooting percentages, or points scored; ignoring defensive efficiency, rebounding (which is key to scoring), assists, and intangibles like a steady confidence in running half-court offense, stepping up in an "enforcer's" role... things that stat-watchers rarely acknowledge.
I just want to remind everyone that Mulder's job yesterday was to fill in some of the minutes available due to Fox's injury. It was not to score a lot of points or make the Mulder fanboi club feel good. Mulder completed his assignment extremely well. I base this on one simple fact.
We won!
The Mulder fan club are wildly inflating his expectations. It's the same crap Willis' fanboi's did to him. Mulder will not be taking significant minutes from Fox, Briscoe or anyone else. He will be invaluable to the Cats when foul trouble or minor injuries pop up. He has always done his best in that role and we're lucky to have him and Hawk to step up.
We won!
The Mulder fan club are wildly inflating his expectations. It's the same crap Willis' fanboi's did to him. Mulder will not be taking significant minutes from Fox, Briscoe or anyone else. He will be invaluable to the Cats when foul trouble or minor injuries pop up. He has always done his best in that role and we're lucky to have him and Hawk to step up.
Well, why don't you make a case with those data points, instead of just blathering away? I'd love to hear how you quantify "steady confidence" ...and being an "enforcer." That should be entertaining.
I agree and I was one calling for more minutes for him. The charge call on him was bogus btw.
Hawkins really impressed me yesterday. Held the team together at PG.
More than 2 would be better especially when 1 of the 2
is hesitant to shoot. On the bright side neither Willis nor Mulder
mind deferring to Monk while Fox and IB seem to want their
share regardless. Monk and IB are left open and by Cal's
orders, they are to take the shot.
Seems like with Gabe, Willis, & Mulder, we could find 2 of
the 3 having a good game.
I saw once in the UF game Cal replaced Bam with Gabe or
Willis (whomever was't already in) Seemed to work
better than having Hump in at that time.
|---TOTAL---| |---3-PTS---| |----REBOUNDS----|
## Player GP-GS Min--Avg FG-FGA Pct 3FG-FGA Pct FT-FTA Pct Off Def Tot Avg PF FO A TO Blk Stl Pts Avg
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05 Monk, Malik........ 29-29 931 32.1 211-446 .473 90-215 .419 111-133 .835 10 63 73 2.5 54 0 70 63 12 33 623 21.5
00 Fox, De'Aaron...... 27-26 796 29.5 151-329 .459 9-52 .173 107-148 .723 13 101 114 4.2 66 2 144 62 5 41 418 15.5
13 Briscoe, Isaiah.... 27-27 821 30.4 132-278 .475 14-48 .292 81-122 .664 42 106 148 5.5 74 2 113 74 5 22 359 13.3
03 Adebayo, Edrice.... 29-29 828 28.6 132-217 .608 0-0 .000 118-186 .634 90 133 223 7.7 79 2 21 48 47 19 382 13.2
35 Willis, Derek...... 29-6 590 20.3 76-151 .503 34-89 .382 18-24 .750 31 109 140 4.8 45 0 22 23 21 19 204 7.0
11 Mulder, Mychal..... 23-1 270 11.7 46-106 .434 30-77 .390 11-11 1.000 15 26 41 1.8 22 0 8 11 5 7 133 5.8
32 Gabriel, Wenyen.... 29-23 590 20.3 59-130 .454 20-58 .345 29-47 .617 55 108 163 5.6 81 2 25 25 32 11 167 5.8
25 Hawkins, Dominique. 29-3 531 18.3 33-94 .351 11-41 .268 30-37 .811 21 30 51 1.8 56 1 56 13 0 19 107 3.7
15 Humphries, Isaac... 29-1 255 8.8 38-76 .500 0-0 .000 13-23 .565 45 46 91 3.1 53 1 8 13 18 6 89 3.1
01 Killeya-Jones, Sach 15-0 96 6.4 17-29 .586 0-0 .000 6-15 .400 12 19 31 2.1 19 0 2 7 10 1 40 2.7
14 Wynyard, Tai....... 15-0 54 3.6 5-6 .833 0-0 .000 1-3 .333 5 8 13 0.9 11 0 1 2 3 1 11 0.7
10 David, Jonny....... 7-0 11 1.6 1-2 .500 1-1 1.000 2-4 .500 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 3 0 0 5 0.7
20 Calipari, Brad..... 14-0 44 3.1 2-13 .154 2-12 .167 2-5 .400 1 2 3 0.2 3 0 1 2 1 0 8 0.6
30 Pulliam, Dillon.... 6-0 8 1.3 0-1 .000 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 0 1 1 0.2 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0.0
TEAM............... 38 54 92 3.2 1 7 0
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Total.............. 29 5825 903-1878 .481 211-593 .356 529-758 .698 378 806 1184 40.8 564 10 472 354 159 179 2546 87.8
Opponents.......... 29 5825 758-1781 .426 179-580 .309 410-608 .674 301 712 1013 34.9 680 - 321 431 89 142 2105 72.6
No one who has played the game, like me, would suggest the team operated more efficiently with Hawkins at lead guard yesterday. The Cats' best teams have traditionally had someone who deflected pressure on rookies by making a rough foul, or stepping into an escalated physical confrontation. Briscoe has done so (not always appropriately, but willingly). His teammates would support his effort, when "fans" do not
You guys have preached that Mulder needs more time all year , he got it and it was the exact opposite of what you said it would be . Should we ignore that so you can continue to preach the good fantasy , don't let that fact crush your tiny soul .
I'm not saying he's not better than them, saying he doesn't fit as well with the guys we have as those guys do. Someone above noted that Briscoe is shooting 1% better from 3 than Hawkins. Briscoe gets shots with 5 or 6 feet clearance.
He shoots 3% better and nobody is guarding Hawkins either , his threes are wide open . He's a worse shooter than Briscoe and that's a fact , so it becomes clear that liking a player has more to do with opening the floor up than anything .
Again, try and comprehend. You're dismissing the player based upon ONE 21 minute performance. I'd say others on this team have gotten plenty of opportunities despite shaky performances. Different criteria for certain players.
LOL...good luck dude. Hopefully your brief will be a bit more coherent than your posts.
Coherence is not one of my weaknesses, nor lack of experience as an actual player