Obvious he needs to come back. Will only benefit the program and him personally. May not be the standard Cal all-star OAD pg, but can turn a different legacy and become the best pg in the country maybe as a senior, and be the senior leader we seem to be missing a lot of times.
Briscoe as a junior
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Be nice if he came back.But it will not happen he is going to leave after this season.
Hopefully after another year of gaining wisdom he can realize what he can truly be. Not every great player has to leave early. We're seeing that this year with other programs dominating with a senior pg. That would no doubt be him, and being talked about in that light will be his path to the pros. It's his best path, and hopefully Cal helps him reach that conclusion.
I think he's probably hit his college ceiling. IMO, the only way he could make a meaningful improvement would be to maybe get lighter/quicker and maybe work on the hops. He may not play in the NBA for 10 years, but he'll make good money playing ball somewhere. Love his grit though. His value is priceless to this team.
I see a guy who didn't get the ball to the team's best player, tried to be a hero and made this a game when it didn't have to be. When you are given the moniker of a team being "Your team" and you just had 1 on 1 meetings with Coaching Staff and announcers even mention "Malik Monk needs to touch the ball more--and demand it"--well--you want to be a PG at any level--get the damn lottery pick the ball! Notice that UK hadn't made a FG in last 4 minutes--and noticed who wasn't touching the ball? He gets it, ties it, takes over OT and you win. What a novel concept, the NBA top 5 pick, future All Star getting the ball instead of a marginal, turnover prone, bowling ball who is a PF in a guard's body.
Playing hard isn't playing well. Bitching in the offseason about your role with the incoming guards and then getting an opportunity and having a combined 14 Turnovers in 2 games Fox hasn't played isn't the best way to prove a point. This is a UGA team that got worked by Alabama by 20 in Athens. I don't care who was/wasn't there--the PG sets the tone and the tone was a 12 pt margin to dig out of, no rhythm and a lot of guys having to figure out how to play with you--again.
Happy for you all that you won--but I don't want to see Briscoe near the '18 team. He can take his style of play back to NYC and go to SJU before I'd want him near the incoming class.
Playing hard isn't playing well. Bitching in the offseason about your role with the incoming guards and then getting an opportunity and having a combined 14 Turnovers in 2 games Fox hasn't played isn't the best way to prove a point. This is a UGA team that got worked by Alabama by 20 in Athens. I don't care who was/wasn't there--the PG sets the tone and the tone was a 12 pt margin to dig out of, no rhythm and a lot of guys having to figure out how to play with you--again.
Happy for you all that you won--but I don't want to see Briscoe near the '18 team. He can take his style of play back to NYC and go to SJU before I'd want him near the incoming class.
Dumb *** thread. He fixed his free throws he fixed his 3's . he is gone. and should be.
Your Briscoe vendetta is getting tiresome. Why don't you take your ignorant garbage to whatever board you're a fan of?
Fixed it relative to what? Sure, personally he's better than last year, but that doesn't make him an NBA caliber. It just means the bar was set really low from last year to show improvement.
Truth is he's a late 2nd rounder right now. Why would you leave knowing that, knowing the % of d-leaguers who make it up is extremely slim. Instead you can play two more years getting tons of exposure. Nobody in their right mind thought Frank Mason was a POY type...until his senior year. Briscoe has much better size, so nothing's to say he can't get that type of hype his senior year. Has to be better than a decent college player who is forgotten in June if he leaves.
You do realize there are professional options outside of the D League, right?
<<<<<<<< hopes that Briscoe comes back next year. Yeah, I cuss him and yell at him (through the TV) sometimes but I hope he comes back for his Junior year. He would be a big asset IMO.
For the most part, I agree with you. He has improved parts of his game from last year but that didn't take a whole lot to accomplish what were some really horrible shooting percentages. I think he is either late 2nd round right now or goes undrafted. I feel if he leaves, and he probably will, that he won't be playing in the NBA but will have to go overseas somewhere to make a living in pro ball if he is OK with that. Where I disagree with you is over your statement of him playing two more years at UK. I just don't see that happening at all. I do think one more year here would have him playing and performing at another level where he just might make an impression on NBA scouts to get drafted a little higher. He still may never play in the NBA but I think playing at UK is a bigger stage for him to be noticed than in the D League, though I know some will argue that point with me. After saying that, I do believe he will jump into the draft this year so I'm not holding out too much hope he will return for a junior season though I would love it for both him and UK.
Sad but true...which is why, IMO, he might as well come back for his Jr. season. It's not like China is going any where.
He fixed them to a degree. He's still a poor shooter and will be viewed by scouts as such (don't cite the %'s, please).
As others have said, I can't imagine him returning given how long he deliberated after last season. Seems clear he wants to start getting paid, and he'll be able to do just that overseas somewhere for the foreseeable future.
He's never going to be a lottery pick, his body type and natural abilities aren't what NBA teams are spending lottery picks on. He's a little too short, a step slow, doesnt have Ulis type court vision, and although his shot is better he's not setting the world on fire and you could time his release with a sundial. He's likely a second rounder regardless of when he goes so he might as well go now and make what he can.
I love what he's brought these last 2 years and selfishly hope we get 2 more but I believe Cal will tell him he's shown what he can and he'll be gone.
I love what he's brought these last 2 years and selfishly hope we get 2 more but I believe Cal will tell him he's shown what he can and he'll be gone.
I'll take what I know and what I just watched--and without tinted glasses and stick with it. If it's terrible to tell the truth, then I don't apologize one bit.
He is definitely gone. He is at UK. Isiah is currently # 50 on the big board. Meanwhile, Grayson is at 33 and will return. Kennard is at 21 and will return. Briscoe, GONE...... The UK way.
If he could cut his turnovers to less than 2 a game and his assists to 4+ a game, he could improve his draft stock immensely. He has a good handle, can use both hands well and has improved his shooting(both Jump Shots and Free Throws). He gets his shot blocked on layups a little too often lately, but he is strong enough to improve that with more work.
I feel like Cal REALLY wants him to succeed to the point that he can get drafted. He seems to give Isaiah more leeway than any other player.
I feel like Cal REALLY wants him to succeed to the point that he can get drafted. He seems to give Isaiah more leeway than any other player.
I think that we should CONTINUE to speculate about Briscoe's return next year!
Lets also talk about how we'll spend the powerball money that we expect to win.
Lets also talk about how we'll spend the powerball money that we expect to win.
I like Briscoe, he's usually pretty solid, but doesn't really have a position at the next level.
He's a solid college player, but will probably never stick to an NBA roster.
He could stick around and get his degree, but I doubt he does. He will end up playing a few seasons in Fumbuck Egypt, make some money, and come back and then do what?
He's a solid college player, but will probably never stick to an NBA roster.
He could stick around and get his degree, but I doubt he does. He will end up playing a few seasons in Fumbuck Egypt, make some money, and come back and then do what?
Leaving early to go play pro ball in Italy is not the UK way . I wish others had his heart and determination but he lacks so much to be the power forward he dreams of being .
I think he goes.
Could be he is delusional about his value as a professional.
Could be he really doesn't like the school part of college.
Could be he would just as soon make 75-150k playing D-league or overseas now as waiting 2 years to be qualified to make 35k working for Enterprise.
Besides, if he stays he probably becomes even more ball dominate and only a slightly better shooter and decision maker.
Could be he is delusional about his value as a professional.
Could be he really doesn't like the school part of college.
Could be he would just as soon make 75-150k playing D-league or overseas now as waiting 2 years to be qualified to make 35k working for Enterprise.
Besides, if he stays he probably becomes even more ball dominate and only a slightly better shooter and decision maker.
Maybe could have deferred to Monk more but w/o Briscoe's rebounds and desire to get to the basket we lose. Briscoe was forced to make things happen and draw fouls. 30+ rebounds over the past 3 games is terrific for a guard.
My one and ONLY complaint about the Calipari era: It's a foregone conclusion that a guy like Briscoe is leaving early and will not stay 4 years. If he is at any other school he is staying.
I brought this up a couple months ago and got roasted for it. Briscoe is a 4 year guy if I've ever seen one.
I brought this up a couple months ago and got roasted for it. Briscoe is a 4 year guy if I've ever seen one.
You forgot to mention that your snarky opinion is totally irrelevant here. PS, Monk loves playing with Briscoe as evidenced by those two pumping each other up all the time. That offensive rebound Briscoe got in overtime and threw it out to Monk for a three that put us up by 5 was HUGE. We have to play with what we have and this IS an NIT team without Briscoe. He's not the best but he leaves his heart on the floor every night and any sane UK fan appreciates that as this is no more than entertainment at the end of the day.