Brenden Jaimes
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I just couldn’t do it. I thought man can I let these guys who have been wrong so much continue to spew their inaccuracies? Nope. I had to stay for the greater good
amart needs to stop turning the ball over and bonehead decisions on plays. then and only then will the team even listen to him. dosent matter who is coaching or playing.
That’s the answer? Not on frost running guys out. Not on defense. Not on special teams? Not on offensive line holding or false starting. It’s Amart and that’s it?
Q&A With Brenden Jaimes: Senior Bowl, NFL Draft, Nebraska's Future (thespun.com)
Read the REAL article and not just what Dustin Schutte chose to post.
The Spun: Adrian Martinez is usually under the microscope in Lincoln. What should fans expect from him next year?
BJ: Another hard-working year from that guy. I think he’s taken a lot for this team and he’s been blamed for a lot of things he couldn’t necessarily control, yet he’s handled it like a real professional. I tip my cap to him and I hope he has a great year because he really deserves it. Just like with Luke, he’s a hard worker and is a great leader on and off the field. What I expect from him is for him to have a great year both rushing and throwing the football. He needs help on the perimeter, backfield and from the offensive line. If it clicks, he’ll be a great quarterback.
The above quote got me thinking...For Jaimes to say he expects 2AM will be a great QB if he can get help from basically EVERYONE else that isn't a QB on offense is VERY telling.
If Farniok, 2AM, and Jaimes were the only ones to act as leaders on offense and 2/3 of that group is gone...who steps up? Is this the year Jurgens takes control of the O-Line? Does he finally become a vocal leader? if not who?
The posts about Manning becoming that guy in the WR room would be great if that comes to fruition!! Someone in each room HAS to become THAT guy.
@Front Runner has said it many times on here, the radio, at Husker Nights...and most former players I've talked to will tell you the Seniors mentor the Juniors, Juniors mentor the Sophs...and so on. Now going into year 4 this corner is being turned. COVID aside, the athletes that were recruited, and still here, year one are now the older guys in the room and should...SHOULD understand the culture this staff wants and needs to effectively build this program into what they want.
Read the REAL article and not just what Dustin Schutte chose to post.
The Spun: Adrian Martinez is usually under the microscope in Lincoln. What should fans expect from him next year?
BJ: Another hard-working year from that guy. I think he’s taken a lot for this team and he’s been blamed for a lot of things he couldn’t necessarily control, yet he’s handled it like a real professional. I tip my cap to him and I hope he has a great year because he really deserves it. Just like with Luke, he’s a hard worker and is a great leader on and off the field. What I expect from him is for him to have a great year both rushing and throwing the football. He needs help on the perimeter, backfield and from the offensive line. If it clicks, he’ll be a great quarterback.
The above quote got me thinking...For Jaimes to say he expects 2AM will be a great QB if he can get help from basically EVERYONE else that isn't a QB on offense is VERY telling.
If Farniok, 2AM, and Jaimes were the only ones to act as leaders on offense and 2/3 of that group is gone...who steps up? Is this the year Jurgens takes control of the O-Line? Does he finally become a vocal leader? if not who?
The posts about Manning becoming that guy in the WR room would be great if that comes to fruition!! Someone in each room HAS to become THAT guy.
@Front Runner has said it many times on here, the radio, at Husker Nights...and most former players I've talked to will tell you the Seniors mentor the Juniors, Juniors mentor the Sophs...and so on. Now going into year 4 this corner is being turned. COVID aside, the athletes that were recruited, and still here, year one are now the older guys in the room and should...SHOULD understand the culture this staff wants and needs to effectively build this program into what they want.
We get it Brenden. Frost made you work too hard. You will forever be labeled a quitter and based on NFL scouts, you should get that job at Runza sooner rather than later. Adios punk.
I agree with what you're saying in the first part.. but it's hard to know who are/were the culture problems. According to Frost, it's all good now, but I think that is coach speak as they continue to work on it.
Frost has always wanted the upperclass players to 'handle things' on the team, like when it was back during his play days. With nobody to show them, it becomes kind of silly, so yeah, that is then on the coach(s) to show how it is done over a course of time.. not just a half an hour.
I still don't think the upperclassmen know how to really do this yet, and the underclassmen are probably like wtf is this bs coming from these guys who aren't playing well.
This is the only thing I can think of, but it's just speculation.
I'm sure there are some culture problems still on the team.. who works hard and who doesn't, but that is present on every team, every year. It's always an adjustment for new guys coming in.
I don't particularly think our offensive leadership is that good, but I do think they have tried. That is all this interview really says to me. Sure Frost is responsible for the state of things, but I think it's being overblown by the media.
Yeah, I'm not sure unity council is such a good idea in this day and age when people whither, then revolt under even the mildest of criticism.
“Culture” = martinez
“Problems” = he sucks, is the antithesis of a leader and the team recognizes his incapacity for even average play
It’s long been rumored he just sits around smoking weed and playing video games all day. I’d be pissed, too, if I was trying to actually win.
“Problems” = he sucks, is the antithesis of a leader and the team recognizes his incapacity for even average play
It’s long been rumored he just sits around smoking weed and playing video games all day. I’d be pissed, too, if I was trying to actually win.
team sport. takes alot more talent than amart has to make up for the number of turnovers and bonehead mistakes that he makes over and over, year after year. errors are like vacumes, they suck everyone in. big 10 teams are too close talent and coaching wise to give anyone an unearned advantage.
Totally agree we have questions of leadership in some position rooms and those voids need to be filled. The peer leadership by position is critical.
It’s one of the things that hurt about losing Wandale. He’d be that guy for WRs.
I think Jurgens is going to have to be the guy for OL. Not sure I see anyone else who could be. We may have the talent (may not), but need that leadership to maximize whatever we got.
When Frost got here, he took on a job way harder as in complete teardown and rebuild starting with culture, talent and upgrading the size of the team. The culture has been the big issue in all of this. Frost's job is way harder than Devaney, Osborne or Solich had to deal with as those coaches left the cupboard full of talent and culture although Solich and Stevie P started it on it's course of destruction, while Frost had an empty cupboard with no culture whatsoever with which to start.
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And naturally, there is only one thing that can fix all of the above.
More swing passes.
I for one can’t wait to hear another round of excuses this year when Frost yet again face plants.
I know you are frustrated... we all are.
But man, the difference between you and me is that I’m gonna say, I for one can’t wait to see Frost turn the corner this year.
Isn’t that what we all want?
If Culture is still a problem then this isn’t about Riley’s Guys, this is about Frost. The Culture he has created is dominate now, not one created by a coach from 3-4 years ago.
Doesn’t really matter, does it? Anything I say will be met with derision, so don’t worry about it. And please, don’t be offended if I don’t respond to your posts anymore. I just don’t care.
Oh you will. You try to come at others and then they come back so now you ignore them. Then you complain about people who do the exact same thing. So you are just like the rest of the people who you have a problem with in this society. Couldn’t see that coming. Lol
I don't see a shot at Frost. I think he is just admitting that a lot of the players weren't willing to put in the work to be a part of making it a better team. That was plainly obvious with the result on the field and in the number of transfers. Hopefully a more committed group of freshmen are coming in that won't bail at the first sniff of adversity. I have been frustrated by Adrian's lack of accuracy but from what Jaimes says here he deserves a lot of kudos for his attempts to get things pointed in the right direction.
Have you found that elusive trophy case yet?
As trolls go you need to up your game. Toss in a mildly positive post about NU once in a while. You'll fool some on the board and get a marginally better rep......for a while. Then bail and come back with a new screen name.
You're welcome.
For what it’s worth, I would have transferred out - because of the way M. Washington was handled. That would have been it for me.
You can’t preach culture ( as a leader) and let one member of your organization/team live an entitled existence. Not and expect buy-in from the others. That’s alone screams “weak leader”. And honestly, seems like “it” was a harbinger of thinks to come
Don’t dislike Frost, hope he succeeds, but he has a long way to go
You can’t preach culture ( as a leader) and let one member of your organization/team live an entitled existence. Not and expect buy-in from the others. That’s alone screams “weak leader”. And honestly, seems like “it” was a harbinger of thinks to come
Don’t dislike Frost, hope he succeeds, but he has a long way to go
What would you have done differently with Mo Washington? Seriously. He ended up suspended and he was clearly the most naturally gifted player on the team.
The answer comes from the song, "American Pie":
Wait for it.......
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Give it a minute there will be more than 3, that way he can pat himself on the back.Winking
I agree with @lbarnessix, if someone wants to do the work, I posted when the whole Washington thing was going on that the way Frost was allowing him to operate under different rules than the rest of the team, it would be trouble for the culture.
Not necessarily because of how he handled Washington, but because of how he handled Washington after all of his speeches about accountability and only recruiting character guys and how if you say anything negative about women we don't have room for you on this team.
You have to decide if you are going to allow talented guys the extra rope from the beginning. But if you are, then you can't be on video telling recruits that you won't recruit them if they have questionable character traits. What everyone on that roster saw was that Frost was going to be inconsistent with discipline. That same season, you had the two players, Legrone and Hunt allegedly doing stupid **** to women in their apartment, earlier that summer you had a few guys brought up on marijuana charges, one being Washington. Even though they were eventually dropped, there was a pattern developing.
So what would have you done differently with Washington? No doubt Frost made some huge reaches in that first class. He was desperate to try to get some talent at WR and RB. Hindsight Washington and those other guys weren't worth the trouble but at the time it's hard for me to criticize what Frost did.
Honestly, he was entitled from the beginning, by Frost. Personally, I don’t see how anyone can argue differently. Hated the message it sent to the rest of the team then, and still do.
Doesn’t matter how good you think he is/was. His actions contradicted everything Frost claimed he was about and what he looked for in a player. He epitomized poor culture and we just went along because we thought he was Uber talented.
And for the record. I’ not piling on the legal issue/issues and how those handled.
Whatever you/I think about the situation, things have certainly fallen off a cliff the last few years and the respect for Frost seems to have taken a hit.
we can just agree to disagree though
Doesn’t matter how good you think he is/was. His actions contradicted everything Frost claimed he was about and what he looked for in a player. He epitomized poor culture and we just went along because we thought he was Uber talented.
And for the record. I’ not piling on the legal issue/issues and how those handled.
Whatever you/I think about the situation, things have certainly fallen off a cliff the last few years and the respect for Frost seems to have taken a hit.
we can just agree to disagree though
Simply, don't make promises you aren't going to keep. This has nothing to do with reaches. If you are going to recruit questionable guys, don't tell recruits at a camp that you aren't, don't talk about respecting women and that sort of stuff then have Washington playing from day 1, with a pending charge involving a woman.
I am all for having a few bad apples on the squad, hell there is a longstanding tradition of having a few low character players on the Nebraska football team.
My opinion was and is, that if you are going to rebuild a program and it is going to be based on a certain culture, then you may have to sacrifice a few wins, year one, to get the necessary buy in. You have to decide if you want to develop culture or not. When you lose trust in the first year, it is an uphill battle to get it back. You have a Freshman class for potentially 4 more years. If they see you coddling the star back and letting him smoke weed, going on trial for crimes against women, and is rumored to have been skipping practice and classes with no repercussions, you will get more guys trying to get away with it. As a parent if your oldest has a 11pm curfew and she doesn't ever get home before 1, your subsequent children will most likely push you on the curfew time as well.
I could ramble on but Tuco summed up my feelings pretty well. It was just a “bad start” to a “new start”.