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So when the rumors were “it’s a done deal KB is coming to Kentucky”, some people flip out and start talking 40-0, maybe best team ever, just way over the top stuff.

Then the rumors are “he may be going to TN or VT” and all of a sudden we will suck next year, be significantly worse than last year, Cal left early and pissed off KB & fam, Cal only cares about NBA draft not winning championships.

Rumors will always be just that- rumors. But one thing is for sure, some people on this board will go to the extreme with every daggon one of them. Let’s just chill and let this play out. We have a really good team without him. We have a possibly great team with him. WE GONNA BE OK.
 

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I'm reminded of just a couple of weeks ago when it was all but a foregone conclusion that EJ was staying in the draft. Most of us had already accepted that was going to be his choice. Look how that turned out. So I'm just going to wait and hear it from KBJ himself. After all, that's the only opinion/source that matters.
 
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kyjeff1

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So when the rumors were “it’s a done deal KB is coming to Kentucky”, some people flip out and start talking 40-0, maybe best team ever, just way over the top stuff.

Then the rumors are “he may be going to TN or VT” and all of a sudden we will suck next year, be significantly worse than last year, Cal left early and pissed off KB & fam, Cal only cares about NBA draft not winning championships.

Rumors will always be just that- rumors. But one thing is for sure, some people on this board will go to the extreme with every daggon one of them. Let’s just chill and let this play out. We have a really good team without him. We have a possibly great team with him. WE GONNA BE OK.
Who said we will suck next year?
Who said Cal only cares about the draft?
Who said Cal left early and pissed off the Blackshear family?

Sounds like you're changing things that were posted to fit an agenda.

I believe Herro's herro (kwiltbuzz) posted the 40-0 crap. TIFWIW.
 

so_obvious

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Who said we will suck next year?
Who said Cal only cares about the draft?
Who said Cal left early and pissed off the Blackshear family?

Sounds like you're changing things that were posted to fit an agenda.

I believe Herro's herro (kwiltbuzz) posted the 40-0 crap. TIFWIW.

If you read enough of these Blackshear threads, you’ll find answers to all of those questions. I’m not going to take the time to go back through all of those shenanigans and find each and every one.

Point is, instead of taking rumors for what they are (typically information from people making generalized guesses or hoping to have their guess proved true to gain some credibility), a selective few just go waaaaaaay overboard and get manic. Both positively and negatively. In June. Before we have even had organized practices. Freshman probably don’t even know their way around campus.

I am not twisting anything to fit an agenda. Not do I even have one. I don’t think wanting people to chill out and not let this one decision make or break a season that hasn’t even started yet an agenda.
 
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KYFOSSIL

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There's a lot of speculation about that in-home visit too. There are rumors that Cal went, rumors it wasn't Cal and rumors that there never was a visit by anyone at UK. Actually, that last one wasn't a rumor, KB's dad said it didn't happen.

All I'm saying is, losing this recruit, who wants to get to the NBA and has 1 year to do so, to Tennessee, VT, Arkansas or Florida… .. is a real head scratcher.

How would you explain it?
What are you looking for kyjeff....an effing conspiracy???? You look like you want someone to blame. Blackshear would have made us a team with a very deep front court but we will still do well with Sestina, EJ, Richards and Brooks plus the deepest backcourt in the country. How about growing a pair and support who we have and get over who we didn’t get.
 
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Sounds like people are going off nuts and guts. No one knows but the Blackshears right now. Just speculation. People trying to read tea leaves and quotes. Blackshear just isn't that bright if he doesn't pick UK or FL at least. He and EJ could play the 4 and 5 and switch to give both freedom to play outside since Kerry has a good stroke from outside and I'm sure EJ wants to improve on his. When one has the opening to get open outside the other can crash the glass and vice versa. Would be a monster frontline with two 6 ft 10 guys that can move. Sure he can go to UTurd and be the man because they lost everyone and they don't reload anywhere close to us. They are a complete crapshoot this year with at least 4-5 SEC teams looking much stronger.

Having the extra support at Uk actually helps him and keeps him from being doubled and makes him a stronger player. I mean there is just no advantage to going to a school like TN who has had no success in the Tourney and really only gets exposure when they play us. Last year was different because they were # until we stomped a mudhole in their asses, but even then they didn't get a ton of pub. I really hope Kerry puts the crack pipe down and clears his head and becomes a Wildcat, but if not he just isn't UK material because with his situation and what he wants this should be one of the easiest recruiting decisions ever. Even if it was FL, but not the middle of the pack orange turds.
 

kyjeff1

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What are you looking for kyjeff....an effing conspiracy???? You look like you want someone to blame. Blackshear would have made us a team with a very deep front court but we will still do well with Sestina, EJ, Richards and Brooks plus the deepest backcourt in the country. How about growing a pair and support who we have and get over who we didn’t get.
Hmm, well, we say it every year "we were one player short". It looks like that's going to be the case again.

I'm not looking for anyone to blame, I'm just wondering how the hell we could lose a recruit like KB to any of the schools being considered. Makes no sense.

Also, I have zero faith in EJ and NR, neither player has the toughness needed for UK to be a legit title contender. Sestina has never played at this level and Brooks is undersized.

KB is that key piece we always seem to be missing.
 

mdlUK.1

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Hmm, well, we say it every year "we were one player short". It looks like that's going to be the case again.

I'm not looking for anyone to blame, I'm just wondering how the hell we could lose a recruit like KB to any of the schools being considered. Makes no sense.

Also, I have zero faith in EJ and NR, neither player has the toughness needed for UK to be a legit title contender. Sestina has never played at this level and Brooks is undersized.

KB is that key piece we always seem to be missing.
Well that settles it. Might as well cancel the season.
 
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Panthur

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He did but he said it was his "gut feeling"--nothing he knew to be fact.
I don’t believe ED when he says it’s a gut feeling. UK leads for a guy or co-leads for a guy for months, then the guy takes a visit to a school that offers much less, followed by a visit to UK before a draft where 2 UK players went higher than they would have gone anywhere but UK, then he immediately cancels any other visits and says he’s ready to announce?

ED may well be right about KB ruling out UK, but if he is, I guarantee it’s based on something he heard outside the scenario I just laid out. Not a “gut feeling.” Especially not since he’s talking about it in a place that’s public enough to affect his reputation.

Is ED more likely to risk his reputation on a gut feeling that doesn’t match the information available to him?

Or is he more likely to strengthen his reputation by leaking the realistic probabilities based on something additional, which he’s heard but isn’t ready to own up to?

I wish it was the former, but my bet would be the latter.
 
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kyjeff1

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Well good. I guess you won’t be cluttering up the message board with your BS this season?
Apparently you don't understand sarcasm and are also misunderstanding what I'm saying.

Do better or take a hike.
 

mdlUK.1

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Apparently you don't understand sarcasm and are also misunderstanding what I'm saying.

Do better or take a hike.
You’ll have to explain what part of your post was sarcasm. And if it was, you need to do a much better job of expressing it.
 

mdlUK.1

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Post # 295 was sarcasm. Keep up
I have no idea which was #295. The post I responded to was the one where you were saying we were always one player short. And that you have no fath in EJ or NR.

If that was sarcasm, it was a poor attempt.
 

kyjeff1

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I have no idea which was #295. The post I responded to was the one where you were saying we were always one player short. And that you have no fath in EJ or NR.

If that was sarcasm, it was a poor attempt.
You don't know how to figure out what post is #295? Seriously?

You're right though, I have no faith in EJ and NR and it's been stated over and over that we were one player short.

Kerry Blackshear is the final piece of the puzzle for this coming season. UK is a complete team with him on board.

Yeah, we'll be good without him, but we'll be one piece short in my opinion.

You don't have to agree with that. That's fine, but don't attack.me for my opinion.
 

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Id bet a few dollars he won't go to Fla (Mann said he's not coming to UF)..I'd guess Tenn.I didn't like the idea of Cal leaving while KB was in town...I know he had the draft, but that was 2 days later..
 
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The truth is, he could go to UT and have zero completion for touches.

That's not the case at UK.

If touches are what you think gets you to the league, that's what you go after, and UK ain't it.
 
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mdlUK.1

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You don't know how to figure out what post is #295? Seriously?

You're right though, I have no faith in EJ and NR and it's been stated over and over that we were one player short.

Kerry Blackshear is the final piece of the puzzle for this coming season. UK is a complete team with him on board.

Yeah, we'll be good without him, but we'll be one piece short in my opinion.

You don't have to agree with that. That's fine, but don't attack.me for my opinion.
Screw you. I replied to your post and you claimed you were using sarcasm. Now you change it. Which is it? If you don’t think we have a chance next year, don’t watch. You won’t be missed.
 

kyjeff1

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Screw you. I replied to your post and you claimed you were using sarcasm. Now you change it. Which is it? If you don’t think we have a chance next year, don’t watch. You won’t be missed.
Wow, are you okay?
I didn't change anything. Post 295 was sarcasm, it's just that simple.
Chill out
 

mdlUK.1

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Id bet a few dollars he won't go to Fla (Mann said he's not coming to UF)..I'd guess Tenn.I didn't like the idea of Cal leaving while KB was in town...I know he had the draft, but that was 2 days later..
Maybe when Cal met him on the visit, he realized KB wasn’t as good a fit as he’d hoped? So he left before the visit ended because he didn’t care if he committed or not?
 

Fawrules

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While I'd be much more confident with Blackshear, I think it's silly to give up on EJ after only one season, where he only played 15 MPG. Dude was a top ten overall recruit last year, maybe he never lives up to that potential, but the point is that the potential is there if he can tap into it. I think between EJ, Nick, & Sestina one or two of them will improve/be solid enough that we'll be alright. Maybe struggle early and have a lot of people giving up on them by December/January, like a few of Cal's teams here, but I think they can still be contenders.
 

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I still hope we do land Blackshear but I thought Sestina at 6'9 and 250 and yes I know it was at Bucknell averaged 16 and 9 at Center and even shot better than Blackshear. Last year Sestina hit 54% FG, 38% from 3, and 80% from FT line. I know they mentioned that Sestina was having an ankle issue and was in a boot but would be fine when practice and season starts. I would say that Sestina would play like Travis did last year averaging 25-28 mpg and Richards playing his 15 or so minutes a game. Yes, Blackshear is 6'10 and 250 but Sestina is right there at 6'9 and 250 and his numbers were just as good at Bucknell last season. I know Coach Cal has talked about Sestina and how tough he is in the middle and that he can step out and has a nice shot and 3 point shot and 80% from the FT line from a big man is outstanding. Don't take me wrong I would still love to get Blackshear but if we have to play Richards and Sestina at the 5 and play Brooks and EJ at the 4 next year.
 
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First, it was FL was a sure thing because he was from there and we should give up it was done. Then ARK had some heat and was named as a real player and not to be overlooked. Then it was UK done deal and now it's over to TN with no real confirmation, just gut calls and reading the tea leaves. Let's not throw in the towel just yet as it could turn again and possibly no announcement even comes tomorrow. We all not it's not only best for UK, but best for Kerry, but at least if he's that dumb t go to TN it ain't FL and the SEC should be ours. We have a fine team, but we do need another big and maybe a reclass happens with him not coming.

Dante is almost definitely moving to 2019 it's just can we steal him away from the cheating *** LSU tigers. If not I like the idea of small ball with Ashton, Maxey, Quickly, Brooks and EJ. If EJ makes a big jump it could be huge and a PJ like adjustment. EJ didn't get to play through mistakes as PJ did as a Freshman because we had RT and PJ. EJ has a crazy ceiling there is no doubt about that and I think Brooks is way better than most think. This will be some of the most experience Cal has had at UK and still a Top recruiting class and a Grad Transfer. 1 Senior, 1 Junior, and 3 Sophomores are pretty dam good for UK. Let's not throw in the towel just yet.

KB would have almost assured a FF appearance, but even without him and most schools down we still have a real good chance to make it. We were an OT from the FF this year and I think this team will be better than the last one. We lost 4 and gained 6. Instead of 3 returners, we have 4. All is not lost and Cal may still have a trick up his sleeve. He said at SEC media day without being asked that we have 1 center and what if he gets hurt. I guess we will play 4 guards for the first time and figure out how to make it work.

How in the world KB would pass on the most exposure in college BB and the best NBA connections not to mention joining a Top 5 team and a real chance to not only make a FF in his final year, but to win a title and have that exposure go until the last day in the season when exposure is blown up to the max for the best players. To pass that up to join a team coming off their best team in over 100+ years and still zero success in the Tourney is bonkers, a lateral move and if it happens shows a guy that just doesn't get it. TN lost Alexander, Bone, Admiral, and Flop. They do not reload as we do. Even if they do land KB I would expect them to finish no better then 4th in the SEC behind us, FL, LSU, and AUB. Hell, I could understand FL, but TN makes no sense and shows something fishy or someone that is bad at making decisions or is afraid of competition. Plus Good Ole Barnes has to pull a kids scholly he has promised to them because he found someone better. Class act. He will be reminded of how dumb of a decision it was if he picks Tn at least twice. Because I think we will beat the breaks off them with this new team.

I haven't thrown in the towel on KB just yet because I don't want to think he is that nieve. He just can't think TN gives him a better shot in the Tourney or the draft. He just can't.
 
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I still hope we do land Blackshear but I thought Sestina at 6'9 and 250 and yes I know it was at Bucknell averaged 16 and 9 at Center and even shot better than Blackshear. Last year Sestina hit 54% FG, 38% from 3, and 80% from FT line. I know they mentioned that Sestina was having an ankle issue and was in a boot but would be fine when practice and season starts. I would say that Sestina would play like Travis did last year averaging 25-28 mpg and Richards playing his 15 or so minutes a game. Yes, Blackshear is 6'10 and 250 but Sestina is right there at 6'9 and 250 and his numbers were just as good at Bucknell last season. I know Coach Cal has talked about Sestina and how tough he is in the middle and that he can step out and has a nice shot and 3 point shot and 80% from the FT line from a big man is outstanding. Don't take me wrong I would still love to get Blackshear but if we have to play Richards and Sestina at the 5 and play Brooks and EJ at the 4 next year.

The main thing about Sestina being like RT is I bet he busts his *** every play and is Charlie hustle. That can be the great equalizer when you have a guy giving you everything on every play. It exposes a lot of guys that take a play off here and there. The kid has good size and can play. I know it was Bucknell, but he played well against some good teams in his time there and if he is like RT and plays his *** off he will be just fine with that supporting cast.
 

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I still hope we do land Blackshear but I thought Sestina at 6'9 and 250 and yes I know it was at Bucknell averaged 16 and 9 at Center and even shot better than Blackshear. Last year Sestina hit 54% FG, 38% from 3, and 80% from FT line. I know they mentioned that Sestina was having an ankle issue and was in a boot but would be fine when practice and season starts. I would say that Sestina would play like Travis did last year averaging 25-28 mpg and Richards playing his 15 or so minutes a game. Yes, Blackshear is 6'10 and 250 but Sestina is right there at 6'9 and 250 and his numbers were just as good at Bucknell last season. I know Coach Cal has talked about Sestina and how tough he is in the middle and that he can step out and has a nice shot and 3 point shot and 80% from the FT line from a big man is outstanding. Don't take me wrong I would still love to get Blackshear but if we have to play Richards and Sestina at the 5 and play Brooks and EJ at the 4 next year.

Would probably work on offense, the question is defense.

Sestina, much like Travis, is no rim protector.

Cal's defense is at its best when the guards can pressure the perimeter, force guys to drive into the teeth of our defense, with a rim protector in the middle.

One solution might be to play Montgomery at the 4 on offense and as the 5 (rim protector) on defense, and Sestina at the 5 on offense and the 4 on defense.

Then the question is does Sestina have the lateral quickness to defend on the perimeter, especially with the way Cal likes to switch on screens?

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
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Would probably work on offense, the question is defense.

Sestina, much like Travis, is no rim protector.

Cal's defense is at its best when the guards can pressure the perimeter, force guys to drive into the teeth of our defense, with a rim protector in the middle.

One solution might be to play Montgomery at the 4 on offense and as the 5 (rim protector) on defense, and Sestina at the 5 on offense and the 4 on defense.

Then the question is does Sestina have the lateral quickness to defend on the perimeter, especially with the way Cal likes to switch on screens?

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I see Brooks being out there with EJ over Sestina and he can play offense and D. I don't think anyone will be able t keep him out of the starting lineup unless Whitney shows he can knock down shots consistently.

 

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I bet Nate has a Scott Padgett type impact. It's just my gut and my gut is almost always right. Dude can flatout shot, he is an ice, he has good feet, plus he is a hustler. He will be surrounded by High caliber talent and he will be able to do some good things at UK. If teams want to single cover him he will make them pay hitting jumpers in their faces all game long.
 

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Hit the road jack and don't come back no more no more no more no more. Class act Barnes. Promise a kid a scholly then take it away. Had the kid redshirt and then toss him. Hell, go get him, Cal, ranked around 100th, 6ft9 272lbs.

Ya it’s a joke we’re even debating so hard over this kid & his decision to come to the NBA factory or go to some middle tier program. UT is still a football school & he’s not Reid Travis; much more talented