Birthright Citizenship

dpic73

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What I had seen recently, then I googled it to verify, before mentioning here. Didn't post the tweet because some people see a tweet and partisan person, and assume its made up.
Understood, in the clip above the conservative came with a list that she wanted to read which ironically proved how rare it really is.
 
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LafayetteBear

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This will end up with scotus.



Just listened to the Preliminary Injunction hearing in Seattle. Unbelievable. After the DOJ attorney made a compelling argument, citing controlling Supreme Court precedent about the meaning of the "subject to the jurisdiction" requirement in the Citizenship Clause, Senior Judge Coughenour attacked President Trump for undermining the Rule of Law, then signed the PI without even mentioning any of the controlling precedent. This is preposterous.

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It has a name. It's called Democracy Governance Rule of law and they implimented it into our court systems through liberal Prosecutors in liberal Judges chambers and they used it on you in your trial.

It's part of the United Nations attempt to change our court system into the ICC.

Wendy Patterson can't spell. It's "implemented," not "implimented." If she wants to be taken seriously (which is difficult when one is arguing that the 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship on persons born here), she needs to either learn to spell, invest in spell check software. or ask a friend to edit her screed. before going public with it.
 
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🚨 JUST IN: Legal expert says President Trump is most likely within his right to end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. The Supreme Court is currently deciding how to rule.

“There’s a very good argument that those who are here illegally or on a short-term basis do not qualify as being fully subject to U.S. jurisdiction in the way the framers intended."

“The 14th Amendment was designed to remedy the issue of former slaves not being considered citizens. And if you look at the language, it says, ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States. That phrase is significant.”

I'm just shocked (shocked, I tell you) that Eric Daugherty has once again brayed his support for another ludicrous attempt by Donald Trump to grab power that is not his to exercise. Donald Trump cannot amend the Constitution via Executive Order. LOL.

Eric Daugherty licks the backside of Cheeto's nads on a daily basis.
 
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TigerRagRob

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Right, that’s naturalization and is straightforward. I’m saying how does anyone else prove they’re a citizen if it isn’t imparted by birth.
Driver license should have the info in the system when they run your id. If on visa you present the visa and passport just like you do in any other country.
 

TigerGrowls

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I don’t know anything about them, but every claim had a source. Glad I could humor you.

Heritage Foundation has tracked fraud and there were less than 100 non-citizen fraud cases between 02-23.
This is akin to asking Bonnie if Clyde robbed the bank. The establishment stole the election and all these think tanks are part of it with few exceptions.
 

TigerGrowls

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I'm just shocked (shocked, I tell you) that Eric Daugherty has once again brayed his support for another ludicrous attempt by Donald Trump to grab power that is not his to exercise. Donald Trump cannot amend the Constitution via Executive Order. LOL.

Eric Daugherty licks the backside of Cheeto's nads on a daily basis.
Scotus can correct an interpretation though.
 

LafayetteBear

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Scotus can correct an interpretation though.
TG: That is very true, but there is long standing Supreme Court precedent holding against Donald Trump's position. A brief search of our friend Google tells the tale:

Google query: "Is there any Supreme Court case law precedent on the subject of birthright citizenship?"

Google reply: "Yes, the Supreme Court established in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) that the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause guarantees automatic birthright citizenship to almost all children born in the U.S., regardless of their parents' citizenship or immigration status.

Key Aspects of Birthright Citizenship Case Law:
  • United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898): The Court ruled 6-2 that a man born in San Francisco to Chinese parents (who were not diplomats) was a U.S. citizen, confirming that birth on U.S. soil is the primary determinant of citizenship.
  • "Subject to the Jurisdiction": The Wong Kim Ark decision interpreted the 14th Amendment's "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause to exclude only children of foreign diplomats, children of invading enemy forces, or children born on foreign public ships.
  • Scope: The ruling established that children born in the U.S. to non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, are U.S. citizens.
 

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Wendy Patterson can't spell. It's "implemented," not "implimented." If she wants to be taken seriously (which is difficult when one is arguing that the 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship on persons born here), she needs to either learn to spell, invest in spell check software. or ask a friend to edit her screed. before going public with it.

If you're ever in the mood for a horror movie, but don't feel like sitting through an entire one ... just scroll down Wendy Patterson's twitter for a little while.

Looney. Tunes.

She actually sometimes hates Trump and thinks he's a fraud because he's not MAGA enough for her.

She almost makes @TigerGrowls look sane, in comparison. Well, maybe not. But she likely has to take a higher dosage of anti-psychotic than TigerGrowls to keep her from harming herself or others.
 

MTTiger19

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It is a total myth that it is a hardship on anyone to get an ID this day and age. Definitely not enough people to affect the outcome of the election.

ALMOST EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD REQUIRES ID.
This is appropriate.
 

UrHuckleberry

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Very respectfully wtf are you talking about???

The establishment meaning Republicans and Democrats participated in the steal of 2020. A lot of judges are in on it too.
You laughed at Brennan Center, so I said Heritage Foundation also hasn’t found discernible non-citizen fraud.
 
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baltimorened

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TG: That is very true, but there is long standing Supreme Court precedent holding against Donald Trump's position. A brief search of our friend Google tells the tale:

Google query: "Is there any Supreme Court case law precedent on the subject of birthright citizenship?"

Google reply: "Yes, the Supreme Court established in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) that the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause guarantees automatic birthright citizenship to almost all children born in the U.S., regardless of their parents' citizenship or immigration status.

Key Aspects of Birthright Citizenship Case Law:
  • United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898): The Court ruled 6-2 that a man born in San Francisco to Chinese parents (who were not diplomats) was a U.S. citizen, confirming that birth on U.S. soil is the primary determinant of citizenship.
  • "Subject to the Jurisdiction": The Wong Kim Ark decision interpreted the 14th Amendment's "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause to exclude only children of foreign diplomats, children of invading enemy forces, or children born on foreign public ships.
  • Scope: The ruling established that children born in the U.S. to non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, are U.S. citizens.
there was precedence for Roe v Wade also....just saying
 

fatpiggy

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MAGA is funded by the richest men in the world. If thats not the 'establishment' then what is?
Who funds the Democrat party?

You are not wrong, you just left out pertinent information. Our whole political system is funded by the rich.

The democrats had almost twice as many billionaire supporters as republicans last cycle.
 
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firegiver

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Who funds the Democrat party?

You are not wrong, you just left out pertinent information. Our whole political system is funded by the rich.

The democrats had almost twice as many billionaire supporters as republicans last cycle.
Elon is the richest man in the world, by like 3 times over. He's a foreigner as well, who's family left Canada to live in Apartheid South Africa, because Canada wasn't racist enough. True story.
 

fatpiggy

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Elon is the richest man in the world, by like 3 times over. He's a foreigner as well, who's family left Canada to live in Apartheid South Africa, because Canada wasn't racist enough. True story.
Twice as many, or more, billionaires donated to the democrat party.

Democrats outspent republicans by $400mm and still lost. I don't think money was the issue.
 
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firegiver

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Twice as many, or more, billionaires donated to the democrat party.

Democrats outspent republicans by $400mm and still lost. I don't think money was the issue.
Its a problem. Abolish Citizens v United. Which was ruled by republican lead Supreme court.
 

TigerGrowls

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🚨 BREAKING: The US Supreme Court is about to consider UPHOLDING President Trump's executive order that ends birthright citizenship for illegal aliens and migrants who cheat the system


This is a MUST-WIN for our republic. Do the right thing, SCOTUS! 🇺🇸


"Next week, the Supreme Court is slated to revisit President Trump's birthright citizenship executive order."


"It directs all U.S. government agencies to refuse issuing citizenship documents to children born to illegal immigrants or children who do not have at least one parent who is an American or a lawful permanent resident."


"It's a law President Trump says is in place all over the world, and he's right. You're looking at that map. And if he wins in court, he would effectively cripple the booming birth tourism industry!" @kayleighmcenany
 
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Who funds the Democrat party?

You are not wrong, you just left out pertinent information. Our whole political system is funded by the rich.

The democrats had almost twice as many billionaire supporters as republicans last cycle.
Billionaires like stability to keep the heat off of them