Bill $elf

[Slowwalker]

Here we go...his quote a year ago about Preston...

Bill Self thinks that Billy Preston will be back by the time Big 12 play rolls around.

“I’m preparing with the idea that we’re going to have both of those guys for the Big 12,” said Self. “And if we have both of those guys (Billy Preston and Silvio de Sousa) for the league then I really like our team because we’re going to be able to be big.”

Self is confident that Preston will be back, and if he isn’t, Kansas is reportedly finding out if Silvio de Sousa, a 2018 prospect, can enroll early and play immediately.

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

Self knew players were being paid and said nothing to the ncaa. He’s a perpetrator not a victim and since he leads their program then Kansas is guilty by extension.

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

 

[Slowwalker]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

So Adidas decided to double their Maryland offer to go to KU just because? Not because Self or KU told them they needed a big man with Billy Preston out?

 

[Wall2Boogie]

We need a kstate fan in here to battle ababypoopsinthecorner @Schwagg whats your thoughts?

 

[DidneyWorl]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

lol, if Hitler were a KU fan.

"He didn't kill any Jews. His generals and soldiers did"

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

So Adidas decided to double their Maryland offer to go to KU just because? Not because Self or KU told them they needed a big man with Billy Preston out?

Double? When did that happen?

Allegedly:

De Sousa's guardian paid to steer De Sousa to Maryland.
De Sousa wanted to go to KU.
De Sousa's guardian says Maryland wants its money back.
Agent pays Maryland $10K.

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

The resident Kansas fan is being facetious. I can’t believe people don’t see that.

I spell it feces.

 

[Slowwalker]

Double? When did that happen?

Allegedly:

De Sousa's guardian paid to steer De Sousa to Maryland.
De Sousa wanted to go to KU.
De Sousa's guardian says Maryland wants its money back.
Agent pays Maryland $10K.

How much did De Sousa get to go to KU?

 

[Born and Raised Big Blue]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

They didn’t penalize their selfs when they cleared rose.

 

[Slowwalker]

Double? When did that happen?

Allegedly:

De Sousa's guardian paid to steer De Sousa to Maryland.
De Sousa wanted to go to KU.
De Sousa's guardian says Maryland wants its money back.
Agent pays Maryland $10K.

An attorney for a former Adidas executive on Tuesday admitted that her client paid $20,000 to get Silvio De Sousa to attend the University of Kansas to play basketball.

Casey Donnelly, an attorney for former Adidas executive Jim Gatto, made the admission Tuesday during a trial in New York City aiming to tackle corruption in college basketball, according to a report from Yahoo Sports.

Gatto, Adidas consultant Merl Code and aspiring basketball agent Christian Dawkins are facing conspiracy and fraud charges.


Last time I checked, 20K is twice as much as 10K. Now why would Adidas just double what they were giving him? Because they wanted to?

@Nooneputsbabyinacorner

Here it is. Double. Explain why he gets a higher amount to go to KU without KU knowing. Self knew Preston wouldn’t be cleared and needed a big man right away. In comes KU’s offer and this kid commits.

 

[rgbowlds]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

it doesn’t matter if they say Self knew or didn’t know. Look at Cal, he didn’t “know” Rose faked his SAT score. They still got the hammer. Face it KU fans, your run of criminal type behavior and culture is now over. Time to follow the rules and try to get recruits to move to Lawrence without money, good luck!

 

[Bluesnky]

Double? When did that happen?

Allegedly:

De Sousa's guardian paid to steer De Sousa to Maryland.
De Sousa wanted to go to KU.
De Sousa's guardian says Maryland wants its money back.
Agent pays Maryland $10K.

I challenge you to find anywhere it has been alleged that Maryland paid deSousa’s guardian and then an agent paid Maryland the money back.

Also, that’s not exculpatory for deSousa.

But, again, you clearly aren’t being serious about any of this. Its gallows humor.

 

[Xception]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

Self knew, did you not read page 1? NCAA cleared Rose and then they didn’t, Memphis got penalized. Every excuse you throw up is getting destroyed, Preston didn’t play but then neither did Bowen. Self didn’t know but then Gassnola testifies that he met with Self and assured him they are there to help. Help recruiting with what lol?

You can pretend to be oblivious and disingenuous but it’s over, Kansas is a cheater. I’m sure you’ll trot out some dumb comment like Bam got paid, except he didn’t. The guy that took money tried to get Bam to go to N.C. State but Bam disassociated with him. Preston got paid and did go to Kansas, the school he was paid to go to.

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

it doesn’t matter if they say Self knew or didn’t know. Look at Cal, he didn’t “know” Rose faked his SAT score. They still got the hammer. Face it KU fans, your run of criminal type behavior and culture is now over. Time to follow the rules and try to get recruits to move to Lawrence without money, good luck!

The NCAA notified Memphis they were investigating his test scores during the season and Rose still played. If Rose was held out, no games would have been forfeit. If Rose was held out and was found to be innocent, that would have been a detriment to Rose. Can't fault the coach for trusting his player. They ended up forfeiting because afterwards no one would cooperate with the NCAA and the investigation was dropped. It is another example of the NCAA applying the rules arbitrarily.

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

Self knew, did you not read page 1? NCAA cleared Rose and then they didn’t, Memphis got penalized. Every excuse you throw up is getting destroyed, Preston didn’t play but then neither did Bowen. Self didn’t know but then Gassnola testifies that he met with Self and assured him they are there to help. Help recruiting with what lol?

You can pretend to be oblivious and disingenuous but it’s over, Kansas is a cheater. I’m sure you’ll trot out some dumb comment like Bam got paid, except he didn’t. The guy that took money tried to get Bam to go to N.C. State but Bam disassociated with him. Preston got paid and did go to Kansas, the school he was paid to go to.

I read page 1. Did you see the tweet I posted? Coaches talk to AAU coaches all the time about their team needs and who they are recruiting. If coaches don't do this, recruiting doesn't work.

 

[Cardsstink]

I read page 1. Did you see the tweet I posted? Coaches talk to AAU coaches all the time about their team needs and who they are recruiting. If coaches don't do this, recruiting doesn't work.

Working overtime again tonight, I see, to defend KU to a bunch of people you shouldn't even worry about..... But UK owns your brain. 2funny.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

Here we go...his quote a year ago about Preston...

Bill Self thinks that Billy Preston will be back by the time Big 12 play rolls around.

“I’m preparing with the idea that we’re going to have both of those guys for the Big 12,” said Self. “And if we have both of those guys (Billy Preston and Silvio de Sousa) for the league then I really like our team because we’re going to be able to be big.”

Self is confident that Preston will be back, and if he isn’t, Kansas is reportedly finding out if Silvio de Sousa, a 2018 prospect, can enroll early and play immediately.

“I am confident it will get cleared up. I don’t know the time frame and they (KU compliance officers) haven’t clued me in exactly,” Self said. “One thing about it … when that’s turned over (to compliance), coaches are totally eliminated from that situation. So they won’t tell me exactly what’s going on.”

Self later explained the circumstances further.

“Our administration and our compliance people … they’ve got to get some information. We were hoping we could get it today,” Self said Tuesday. “Obviously that didn’t happen.

“When a kid goes to school at your school you register your car, if he (the athlete) has a car, through the compliance office. He had a minor, no-injury, one-car accident on Saturday that’s reported to the compliance office. They started doing the checking on the car. They wanted to get a clearer picture of how some things were done. We couldn’t get it cleared up (Tuesday). That’s basically all there is to it.”

 

[Slowwalker]

“I am confident it will get cleared up. I don’t know the time frame and they (KU compliance officers) haven’t clued me in exactly,” Self said. “One thing about it … when that’s turned over (to compliance), coaches are totally eliminated from that situation. So they won’t tell me exactly what’s going on.”

Self later explained the circumstances further.

“Our administration and our compliance people … they’ve got to get some information. We were hoping we could get it today,” Self said Tuesday. “Obviously that didn’t happen.

“When a kid goes to school at your school you register your car, if he (the athlete) has a car, through the compliance office. He had a minor, no-injury, one-car accident on Saturday that’s reported to the compliance office. They started doing the checking on the car. They wanted to get a clearer picture of how some things were done. We couldn’t get it cleared up (Tuesday). That’s basically all there is to it.”

Yeah Bill. That’s basically it. No big ******* deal. We just couldn’t get that bag of cash cleared up by conference play. Maybe by the tournament the NCAA will get their act together.

 

[stoneycat_20]

I read page 1. Did you see the tweet I posted? Coaches talk to AAU coaches all the time about their team needs and who they are recruiting. If coaches don't do this, recruiting doesn't work.

Maybe you skipped over the part where the AAU coach TJ Gassnola just testified in federal court that "He made payments to the families of 5 players on behalf of Adidas:" Two were Preston & De Sousa to attend Kansas

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

Maybe you skipped over the part where the AAU coach TJ Gassnola just testified in federal court that "He made payments to the families of 5 players on behalf of Adidas:" Two were Preston & De Sousa to attend Kansas

Players/Family. Meaning players received cash too is how it looks to read.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Except Self didn't know. The NCAA didn't know. They cleared De Sousa. Should the NCAA penalize itself?

Derrick Rose was cleared repeatedly by the NCAA. So was every player who later caused a program to forfeit games. Otherwise, they wouldn't have played. Even you can figure that out.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

There is more here.

Way more. Wait till tomorrow on cross. That's the side that's been bringing out all the dirt by basically using an "everyone's doing it" defense.

Today was just an attempt to soften that blow

 

[Blueblood410]

When a player tries to get eligible mid-season, the NCAA is probably more worried about the academics.

But of course, we’ll still have the attention ***** with half naked women as his avatar so everyone knows he’s a hetero male tell us how everything is on the up and up at KU.

 

[Bluesnky]

Way more. Wait till tomorrow on cross. That's the side that's been bringing out all the dirt by basically using an "everyone's doing it" defense.

Today was just an attempt to soften that blow

It isn’t so much “everyone is doing it” as it is “these schools weren’t defrauded. They knew.”

 

[Xception]

I read page 1. Did you see the tweet I posted? Coaches talk to AAU coaches all the time about their team needs and who they are recruiting. If coaches don't do this, recruiting doesn't work.

It doesn’t work for Kansas, they used the pump brothers and then Adidas was buying Kansas roster. Can Kansas do it on their own or not?

 

[drbubba]

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ajcksu82 said... (original post)

Dan Wetzel

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A report Gassnola wrote did include that he "met with Coach Self and his staff ... talked recruiting targets ... assured them we are here to help."


So coaches aren't allowed to meet with Adidas reps? And what are the ellipses leaving out? Whole lot of conjecture, without a lot of context.

We need to get you a connect the dots coloring book for Christmas.

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

I read page 1. Did you see the tweet I posted? Coaches talk to AAU coaches all the time about their team needs and who they are recruiting. If coaches don't do this, recruiting doesn't work.

Can you read this?

Adidas executive Jim Gatto, also previously claimed that Under Armour paid $20,000 to recruit De Sousa to sign with Maryland. Donnelly also claimed Gatto was asked if he could match the offer so De Sousa could attend Kansas.

That means paid to De Sousa. #debunkdis

 

[Montana81]

Derrick Rose was cleared repeatedly by the NCAA. So was every player who later caused a program to forfeit games. Otherwise, they wouldn't have played. Even you can figure that out.

I’d say this more closely resembles Marcus camby. Camby got money from an agent the summer before his junior year. Umass never knew about it till after the season. Still had a final four vacated.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

I hope they don't take away any of their 5 titles lol.

If that bread company was ever proven shady they will have 2

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

Can you read this?

Adidas executive Jim Gatto, also previously claimed that Under Armour paid $20,000 to recruit De Sousa to sign with Maryland. Donnelly also claimed Gatto was asked if he could match the offer so De Sousa could attend Kansas.

That means paid to De Sousa. #debunkdis

That means paid to De Sousa's guardian to have said guardian try to persuade/influence De Sousa into choosing Maryland/Kansas.

That does not mean put money into the hands of Silvio De Sousa....

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

When a player tries to get eligible mid-season, the NCAA is probably more worried about the academics.

But of course, we’ll still have the attention ***** with half naked women as his avatar so everyone knows he’s a hetero male tell us how everything is on the up and up at KU.

Why are you avatar shaming me?

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

That means paid to De Sousa's guardian to have said guardian try to persuade/influence De Sousa into choosing Maryland/Kansas.

That does not mean put money into the hands of Silvio De Sousa....

Doesn't say crap about a guardian. Nice try.

An attorney for a former Adidas executive on Tuesday admitted that her client paid $20,000 to get Silvio De Sousa to attend the University of Kansas to play basketball.

Still no guardian.

 

[MNantz]

Oh there is a lot of bunk coming out of the Jailhawks the next few days I bet !!

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

Doesn't say crap about a guardian. Nice try.

An attorney for a former Adidas executive on Tuesday admitted that her client paid $20,000 to get Silvio De Sousa to attend the University of Kansas to play basketball.

Still no guardian.

Still no De Sousa.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

$elf and Kan$a$ are a match made in hell.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

forget it guys. Babycorner is trying to be KU’s zipp. He’ll argue in circles even after the ncaa punishes KU

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

Still no De Sousa.

You keep trying to add "guardian" to all these testimonies where none exist. Now you say "Still no De Sousa" with it right in front of you. I get it now.

You are full of...

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

 

[UKrazycat2_rivals]

Still no De Sousa.

forget it guys. Babycorner is trying to be KU’s zipp. He’ll argue in circles even after the ncaa punishes KU

His last post says what his head really thinks. "Still no De Sousa" and he's right.
De Sousa is toast and so is Kansass.

 

[Nooneputsbabyinacorner]

You keep trying to add "guardian" to all these testimonies where none exist. Now you say "Still no De Sousa" with it right in front of you. I get it now.

You are full of...

What was in front of my face? I posted the proper interpretation of your quote based on English grammar rules and sentence structure. While no guardian is in any quotes I've read, the initial allegation was the guardian took money to steer De Sousa to Maryland and then KU. That is where my inference is coming from, since De Sousa himself, has never been mentioned by the FBI as having directly taken money. Just as Self and KU have never been mentioned by the FBI as having any involvement in the alleged investigation.