Bilas Says IU over UK

Randy Bob

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Ind. looks like they have a good team, and I thank it will be a war, but Uk had several wars in the SEC tourney..
 

Son_Of_Saul

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I swear I think IU fans are too dumb for words. The local news was interviewing UK and IU fans about the upcoming game and some IU fan said "hopefully it will be like the 2012 game and we get a win". Earth to moron, you lost in 2012. The only thing they think matters was that game in 2011 at their hell hole of an arena.

You'll have to forgive them. They don't get to the tournament much these days. As a result, many of them probably think the game will be played in Bloomington.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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UK is always under seeded? Most of the time we are a #1 or #2 seed

Kentucky has never been a 2 seed under Calipari.

2010- 1 seed
2011 - 4 seed
2012 - 1 seed
2014 - 8 seed
2015 - 1 seed
2016 - 4 seed

I'd say that there's no counter-argument for UK being under-seeded in '11, '14, and '16. The evidence is clear enough.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Cory Magette, Lance Thomas? The travesty that was the final 4 (UK vs wiscy officiating, shot clock violation no call, phantom over the back call on Andrew Harrison when wiscy player wasn't within 10 feet of him) and the title game (refs were pathetically biased towards Duke that game. Practically predetermined Duke as champions with how the game was called one way, yet not the same the other way). Not only because of the cakewalk path they have to the final 4 every season whereas UK is always under seeded and given the hardest path. They for sure as hell haven't earned all there hardware. If the magette thing happened at UK. You bet your *** UK has there title vacated. Same with lance Thomas. And imagine how many less titles they would have if the committee didn't gift wrap there path to the final 4 every season? Considering the magette and Thomas situations. Coach Krybaby is one of the dirtiest coaches in all of college basketball. 5th behind pitino, Roy Williams, Boheim and Brown (arguable between coach k and the other 2 for 3rd place). But much like Roy Williams and UNC. The NCAA protects Duke and coach K. Duke is untouchable as far as punishment from the NCAA goes. If that happened at any other program the titles would've been vacated. And the coach would've been fired. But due to the protection Duke receives it was all swept under the rug. And coach K is viewed as a saint.

3 certainties in life.... Death, taxes, and Duke receiving favorable bias from the selection committee, NCAA, and referees. Many titles with asterisk next to them at Duke. everybody who is a fan of CBB sees asterisk next to many of duke's titles. In the same way the last 25 years at UNC**** has asterisk next to every win. Obviously what Duke did wasn't as bad. But when you play with ineligible players your wins and titles during that time frame are vacated. Imagine if Kanter still played the season he was here? Not one win that season would've counted. But we're talking about Duke right now, they're allowed to play ineligible players as long as it helps them win a national title. Only reason it wasn't vacated at Duke is because we're talking about coach Krybaby and Duke right now, just because they didn't get punished doesn't mean coach Krybaby and Duke aren't dirty and it doesn't mean those banners shouldn't have been stripped. That's the thing though no matter what Duke does the NCAA isn't going to punish them, same with UNC. Doesn't mean us fans count those championships. No one who is a real, knowledgeable fan of CBB views Duke as an elite program with 5 national titles. At least not without an asterisk anyways. If you count asterisks they are elite. But fans don't count asterisk seasons. Same reason fans don't view bonds as a hall of famer and home run king. It's the asterisks, man. It's called cheating. So unless you count cheating as success then no one really seriously views Duke as 'the gold standard'. I honestly have no idea where you came up with that. Quite humerous IMO. That's like saying bonds is the gold standard in baseball. No one views bonds as the gold standard in baseball the same way no one views Duke as the gold standard in basketball. No one. No one outside of Durham at least.

And when you look at the brackets every year. Who has the easiest and who has the most difficult path? It's every single year too. Duke always has a cakewalk bracket. Whereas UK gets underseeded and the bracket of death every year. It's the sad truth. But Duke and coach Krybaby are untouchable regardless how much and how bad they cheat. Much like Roy Williams and UNCheat**** ... The treatment duke receives from the selection committee and the NCAA is pretty much criminal. In a way it's along the same lines as fixing games. Same can be said for how they treat UK as far as criminal goes (example: the under seeding of 1 or 2 lines and bracket of death every year). It's the same as fixing games the way they formulate the brackets for the sole purpose of giving everyone a fair chance to win it all except UK. Looking at this years brackets. That seemed to be the selection committees only objective. How can we screw UK and diminish there chances at making it to the last game? Even calipari believes this is happening (he actually knows this is happening, or so he says, he said the committee plays favorites, referring to Duke and how they were rated higher in the seeding process with a cakewalk bracket much easier than UK's. And that they don't like other teams, referring to UK getting under seeded below aTm and Duke in the hardest section of all brackets).

It's the truth. Calipari says it's a fact, it's not a conspiracy. The NCAA and the committee plays favorites and definitely uses bias in there formula of constructing the brackets. How else can you explain Duke being rated higher than UK? As soon as you can explain that I might have 2nd thoughts on the committee maybe not giving Duke a cakewalk bracket every year. But there's no way you can explain that other than the committee having a favorable bias towards Duke. Even though they lost to UK when they had Jefferson, didn't win there conference title, and came into the conference tournament ranked 5 spots below UK (who actually won there conference outright and tourney) yet leapfrogged UK in the standings for the NCAAT? The conspiracy is what Duke fans blindly wish to believe as the truth. And that's there belief that the NCAA doesnt play favoritism towards them and doesn't gift wrap Duke the easiest path every season. The truth is what it is. And if you include the cakewalk brackets due to NCAA favoritism it gives Duke even more of an asterisk next to the banners that were won with ineligible players. Which is why no one views Duke as 'the gold standard'. Lol at you for having that thought enter your mind let alone saying it to anyone who is a fan of CBB. You really think anyone who is a fan of CBB views Duke as the gold standard outside of Durham? Yup and baseball fans view Barry Bomds of home runs. And since they get away with all this stuff, the officiating bias is just icing on the cake and not even worth mentioning when you think about all the other stuff they get away with. UK hasn't always been clean I can admit that. But guess what? We got punished and served our time. Whatever we've earned. WEVE EARNED. WITH ELIGIBLE PLAYERS. THEREFOR MAKING UK THE GOLD STANDARD. NO ASTERISKS******


 

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"Remember they were just as confident and probably just as good back in 2012 and we put up 102 on them."

Yes, this IU team is just as good as the 2012 one. But this UK team is not as good as that 2012 Wildcat team was. This one could go either way. IU looked like the best offensive team in the tournament yesterday, UK looked like the best defensive team. It's an absolute crying shame that regular season champs in two of the five power conferences are playing in the 2nd round instead of the Final 4.
 

kyjeff1

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Who besides the most hyper, unreasonable posters say that IU sucks?

In reality, there are more nervous nellies fretting the outcome than overconfident fans.

But we are UK fans. Our team is slightly better on offense and defense.

You know, it's ok to expect to perform well and win. We usually do. Doesn't mean we don't know that IU has a good team capable of winning.
LOL, Isn't there a huge ongoing thread that is titled something like "post here when Indiana sucks"?
 

kyjeff1

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He is awful to watch. I can't stand him and he is terrible at his job. Any kid could do better then Bilas.
Terrible at his job? Okay, lets not overreact. Dude has an opinion and it doesn't sit well with you. Leave it at that.
 

kyjeff1

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Is this the guy that said I couldn't be more wrong about stoops and his coaching inability? If so pretty much everything I had said was correct and you didn't like it because you're a stoops apologists (if you're the poster from the instance I'm talking about).
Man, you have plenty to say about everybody don't you? You seem to be one miserable SOB.
Look, Bilas is paid to give his opinions snd analyze college basketball teams. He does a very good job at those things. He does his homework. I'm sure he's really sorry that is OPINION differs from yours but now you're attacking Stoops? You have issues.
 

kyjeff1

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So what did i say that wasn't true? I'm getting bashed by UK fans for PROVING to a Duke fan that he's dumb for calling Duke the gold standard of CBB? your logic is definitely *** backwards when you're salty about me being on this board, and not catching a break, for proving Duke fans that they're dumb as fuuuhhhccc if they truly believe duke is the gold standard. I feel like I should be appreciated for spouting the truth of Duke basketball and the nation wide consensus of Duke basketball amongst CBB fans to a Duke fan. Don't you have some jay bilas worshipping you need to get in on or something?
You're too much of a hot headed idiot to be appreciated. Go back and read your posts, there appears to be a pattern. Can you figure it out?
 

Aike

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LOL, Isn't there a huge ongoing thread that is titled something like "post here when Indiana sucks"?

Key word there is "ongoing." Someone who hates IU posted that a long time ago, pretty clearly as a joke post.

It isn't a commentary on the ability level of the team we play Saturday.

Most people are smart enough to know that IU can play.
 
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JulesCamara=GOD

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I like Bilas. He has enormous respect for our program, coach, and usually has nothing but nice things to say. I think his analysis is always spot on, I really enjoy him when he announces games for us. Heck, he gave our team last year in the bahamas a fantastic speech. So what he picked IU. They looked really good last night. Big 10 regular season champs is impressive considering the depth of the Big 10. I can see why he would pick them. But let's not act like Bilas sucks, and is the worst when in reality, he is one of the best in the business.
 
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"Night of their lives shooting" has occurred 16 times this season...when Indiana is on, they are good.

Slow your roll correction boy. Where the hell are you getting that they have shot that well 16 times? I just checked and they have had ONE game better than last night. They have had 4 games shooting 60 percent or better though, which is impressive. But a long way from 16 times.
 

kat57

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If Bilas had done his homework he would analyze the whole season not base his prediction off of one game. That is what young children do. My granddaughter, she is nine, saw Skal have a good game and she now thinks he is a great player!
 

larry the cable guy

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He has the right to his opinion. My opinion is if the refs hadn't allowed Duke to shoot 40 free throws they would have lost yesterday.
 

tallkat70

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I like Bilas and think he's one of the best in the biz, but as another poster pointed out he did pick Cornell against us in 2010 so he can be crazy wrong. Also another poster said the IU team in 2011-12 was as good as this one, that team had 2 Top-5 lottery picks in Zeller and Oladipo, other than Ferrell who may go somewhere in the 1st round, IU has no surefire NBA picks.
 

rabidcatfan

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Kenpom rankings rates UK the #6 overall team. Our offense is ranked #1 and our defense #59.

Kenpom rankings rates IU the #13 overall team. Their offense is #5 and their defense is #69.

It will likely be the most evenly matched game of the first weekend and will definitely be a good game. I see both teams establishing a 4-6 point lead at some point in the game, but I see UK pulling it out in the end. Very similar to our game against TAMU.
 
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Man, you have plenty to say about everybody don't you? You seem to be one miserable SOB.
Look, Bilas is paid to give his opinions snd analyze college basketball teams. He does a very good job at those things. He does his homework. I'm sure he's really sorry that is OPINION differs from yours but now you're attacking Stoops? You have issues.
It's not an opinion when facts prove the opinion wrong. Like when bilas trolled UK the other day saying Kris dunn is the best pg in the land. That's not an opinion he doesn't believe that he just wanted to troll. But yes he sure as hell does his homework when he makes statements like dunn being the best PG in the land. Dakich gets paid to analyze basketball, are you going to sit there and say Dakich does a great job? IMO bilas sucks just as much as Dakich. They both get paid for there opinions, doesn't mean they don't suck. Attacking stoops? Or pointing out the obvious of his coaching inability? Miserable? Kinda hard to be miserable when you have a good education, great job, and beautiful fiancé. But good try DBag. You have issues for thinking no one should ever speak about stoops horrible coaching. And that his garbage coaching should be left alone. I have season tix to football so yes i pay to see the horribly coached team take the field every season. I think if I don't like the job a coach is doing I have the right to speak up about it. It's called America. Just because a handful of posters troll my post, you being one of them, and always have something to say about my post doesn't mean I can't say it. Especially when it's the obvious truth
 
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