Big, 24 teams

[redwine65]

I think it's safe to say oregon and washington is in, but the big 10 wants to worship nd for awhile..

I think the teams to get to 24 is:

wash, oregon, nd, stanford, houston (recruiting), miami (recruiting), clemson, gt (recruiting/aau)

I think any of them teams will jump at a invite, even nd eventually
I thinking recruiting a bit because you will have to deal with the sec, and florida, texas, so cal/georgia are the place to recruit

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

IF the ACC gets poached, I think North Carolina would be a top priority. Clemson wouldn't be coming.

 

[Headcard]

UNC would be a top priority for both the SEC and B1G and I wonder if you might have to also take Duke to get them (like USC/UCLA) or would Duke be OK with going to the East and giving up on football? Miami, GT, Clemson all seem more likely to end up in the SEC to me and I don’t see the appeal of Stanford.

If the B1G does add Oregon, Washington and ND and needs one more, I would like to see us add KU.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

IF the ACC gets poached, I think North Carolina would be a top priority. Clemson wouldn't be coming.

NC will be going to SEC. I’d be surprised if not.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

UNC would be a top priority for both the SEC and B1G and I wonder if you might have to also take Duke to get them (like USC/UCLA) or would Duke be OK with going to the East and giving up on football? Miami, GT, Clemson all seem more likely to end up in the SEC to me and I don’t see the appeal of Stanford.

If the B1G does add Oregon, Washington and ND and needs one more, I would like to see us add KU.

I would as well…but Lawrence Kansas doesn’t bring a lot of eyeballs on FB Saturdays. KS would be a non- priority, fringe player for a spot in the BIG IMO.

 

[bama_husker]

I think it's safe to say oregon and washington is in, but the big 10 wants to worship nd for awhile..

I think the teams to get to 24 is:

wash, oregon, nd, stanford, houston (recruiting), miami (recruiting), clemson, gt (recruiting/aau)

I think any of them teams will jump at a invite, even nd eventually
I thinking recruiting a bit because you will have to deal with the sec, and florida, texas, so cal/georgia are the place to recruit

Outside of ND, don't think any non-AAU schools would be on the list.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Outside of ND, don't think any non-AAU schools would be on the list.

Yep…Houston wont be getting an invitation.

 

[Headcard]

I would as well…but Lawrence Kansas doesn’t bring a lot of eyeballs on FB Saturdays. KS would be a non- priority, fringe player for a spot in the BIG IMO.

Probably true. They could bring the KC market, but the B1G probably already has that with Nebraska. Personally, I like Lawrence and KU and think it’s sad that one of the best basketball brands and one of our traditional rivals is going to get left out in the cold.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Probably true. They could bring the KC market, but the B1G probably already has that with Nebraska. Personally, I like Lawrence and KU and think it’s sad that one of the best basketball brands and one of our traditional rivals is going to get left out in the cold.

I agree. Hell I wish we were in the old Big 8…loved rivalries with the schools nearby. It is what it is. Another NFL but instead of NFC/AFC it will be SEC/BIG

 

[king_kong_]

NC will be going to SEC. I’d be surprised if not.

Duh. The National Championship goes to the SEC every year.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Duh. The National Championship goes to the SEC every year.

That’s true as well. But Ohio State and USC may be pretty big players moving forward.

 

[king_kong_]

That’s true as well. But Ohio State and USC may be pretty big players moving forward.

Doubt it, Rick. B1G sucks

 

[Redmich]

Virginia is one of the top public schools in the nation they will opt for the perceived academics of the BIG if the ACC folds

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Yeah, I think BiG will be going after UNC and Virginia big time. KU is in kind of a weird place. I think the BiG TeN generally wants them, but has a hard time finding a partner to go with them that would make it all financially beneficial. KU is more than just eyeballs in KC, they have a national cachet in basketball similar to Nebraska football. Maybe a future addition with Notre Dame?

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

I think the whole thing sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah... I am an old timer with his head stuck in the past and up his nostalgic $ss, blah, blah, blah. So spare me. Times change! Spare me. At one time the forward pass was condemned too as a violation of tradition! Spare me. The folks on here who are cheering all of this on are really cheering on the demise of Husker football. These super conferences are about attracting big money from big markets for and from glamor schools from dense population centers. This is a trajectory designed for the rich to get richer at the expense of those schools from less population dense areas. It is a damn good thing we joined the B1G before the implosion of NU football under Riley/Frost since I doubt we would be part of any discussions on joining the B1G now.

Conferences should make geographic sense and emphasize that which has always made college football so great: regional rivalry and loyalty with games between teams linked by culture, geography, climate, and common recruiting pools. Now the product will be a homogenized and nationalized "NFL lite" with free agency (transfer portal), big salaries (NIL), and games involving teams from either coast playing each other - - Rutgers vs USC! Oh yeah! - - and recruiting becoming national with the richest teams from the glamor schools buying the best talent. And newsflash: we are not one of the glamor schools.

Dismiss me all you want as an old fashioned crank. I just don't see how any of this is good for NU football. I think Trev Alberts knows it too, which is why he said uncomfortable changes were ahead in college football.

 

[Redmich]

I think the whole thing sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah... I am an old timer with his head stuck in the past and up his nostalgic $ss, blah, blah, blah. So spare me. Times change! Spare me. At one time the forward pass was condemned too as a violation of tradition! Spare me. The folks on here who are cheering all of this on are really cheering on the demise of Husker football. These super conferences are about attracting big money from big markets for and from glamor schools from dense population centers. This is a trajectory designed for the rich to get richer at the expense of those schools from less population dense areas. It is a damn good thing we joined the B1G before the implosion of NU football under Riley/Frost since I doubt we would be part of any discussions on joining the B1G now.

Conferences should make geographic sense and emphasize that which has always made college football so great: regional rivalry and loyalty with games between teams linked by culture, geography, climate, and common recruiting pools. Now the product will be a homogenized and nationalized "NFL lite" with free agency (transfer portal), big salaries (NIL), and games involving teams from either coast playing each other - - Rutgers vs USC! Oh yeah! - - and recruiting becoming national with the richest teams from the glamor schools buying the best talent. And newsflash: we are not one of the glamor schools.

Dismiss me all you want as an old fashioned crank. I just don't see how any of this is good for NU football. I think Trev Alberts knows it too, which is why I said uncomfortable changes were ahead in college football.

Prior to us leaving the big12 - when was the last time a team left a power 5 conference for another? You could argue that Nebraska opened this Pandora’s box

 

[TruHusker]

Don't disagree with what you have said Pennsy.

Talked with Dr. BIL who is connected to Washington. He said academics has NOTHING to do with any of this. It is about FB. Oh and he is a KU grad as well.

The bigger question is where does Nebraska fit into all of this going forward? I agree with you that we could be out in the cold with our former B12 brethren if we would not have had the glory years of the 90's.

The biggest question for me going forward is how does this benefit Nebraska and how do we return to National Prominence?

Another comment from my BIL, is how there are fewer and fewer Husker fans who remember the glory years. Yep, I am 68 and lived through it all from start to finish but my attention span is waning.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Doubt it, Rick. B1G sucks

It will be interesting to see how Alabama trends once the GOAT retires.

 

[CharlesBronson]

I think it's safe to say oregon and washington is in, but the big 10 wants to worship nd for awhile..

I think the teams to get to 24 is:

wash, oregon, nd, stanford, houston (recruiting), miami (recruiting), clemson, gt (recruiting/aau)

I think any of them teams will jump at a invite, even nd eventually
I thinking recruiting a bit because you will have to deal with the sec, and florida, texas, so cal/georgia are the place to recruit

Substitute TCU for Houston and either FSU/VT for Clemson. TCU better academically than Houston, and Clemson would opt for SEC. Duke/UNC joined at the hip, so they’d have to replace GT and either FSU/VT. GT is valued for recruiting talent rich Georgia.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Substitute TCU for Houston and either FSU/VT for Clemson. TCU better academically than Houston, and Clemson would opt for SEC. Duke/UNC joined at the hip, so they’d have to replace GT and either FSU/VT. GT is valued for recruiting talent rich Georgia.

I just got back from a week in Atlanta on business. Local sports talk radio heads don’t think GT will get an invite to the SEC or BIG.

 

[BlkNGld71]

UNC would be a top priority for both the SEC and B1G and I wonder if you might have to also take Duke to get them (like USC/UCLA) or would Duke be OK with going to the East and giving up on football? Miami, GT, Clemson all seem more likely to end up in the SEC to me and I don’t see the appeal of Stanford.

If the B1G does add Oregon, Washington and ND and needs one more, I would like to see us add KU.

I 100% agree with your top three: ND, Oregon, Washington (added in that order by the way). But I think the fourth will be Cal or UNC. I lean toward Cal for academic and geographic (captures the #6 San Francisco market) reasons:

- Cal is a land grant school (UNC is not, NC State is) which the B1G values; 8 of 14 current members are land grants, including Nebraska. ND, Oregon, and Washington are not, so Cal would help balance things out (I guess?).

- Cal and UCLA are part of the California university system, so it makes sense to reunite them. A lot of people were surprised UCLA broke away from Cal for that reason.

- Cal is a top notch research university located near Silicon Valley. That's a big deal for the other top research schools in the B1G.

Personally, I prefer UNC, but university presidents REALLY care about academics. And in that respect, Cal is ranked a little higher.

 

[HuskerMania257460]

I think it ends up at 24 as well. Basically an AFC and NFC. For the B1G, IMO their top targets would be:

1. ND
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. Washington
5. Oregon
6. Cal or Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Kansas
9. Arizona or ASU
10. Utah

The pod system makes the most sense and I think actually work better for scheduling/travel if you get into that 20-24 range. Keeps things more regional and develops some strong rivalries. Dream scenario would look something like this in the end:

Pod #1
Rutgers
Maryland
North Carolina
Virginia
Penn State
Notre Dame

Pod #2
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois

Pod #3
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas

Pod #4
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Colorado

You play the 5 in your pod each year and rotate the rest. I think we’ll see this go to 9-12 conference games by the end of it.

ACC dissolves and SEC takes Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, maybe the Arizona schools as well. Gonna be several rounds of realignment to come. CFB is going to look unrecognizable from how we knew it a decade from now.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

I think it ends up at 24 as well. Basically an AFC and NFC. For the B1G, IMO their top targets would be:

1. ND
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. Washington
5. Oregon
6. Cal or Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Kansas
9. Arizona or ASU
10. Utah

The pod system makes the most sense and I think actually work better for scheduling/travel if you get into that 20-24 range. Keeps things more regional and develops some strong rivalries. Dream scenario would look something like this in the end:

Pod #1
Rutgers
Maryland
North Carolina
Virginia
Penn State
Notre Dame

Pod #2
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois

Pod #3
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas

Pod #4
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Colorado

You play the 5 in your pod each year and rotate the rest. I think we’ll see this go to 9-12 conference games by the end of it.

ACC dissolves and SEC takes Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, maybe the Arizona schools as well. Gonna be several rounds of realignment to come. CFB is going to look unrecognizable from how we knew it a decade from now.

UVA over Oregon? Huh? You do realize this is about money right?

 

[BleedRed78]

I think it ends up at 24 as well. Basically an AFC and NFC. For the B1G, IMO their top targets would be:

1. ND
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. Washington
5. Oregon
6. Cal or Stanford
7. Colorado
8. Kansas
9. Arizona or ASU
10. Utah

The pod system makes the most sense and I think actually work better for scheduling/travel if you get into that 20-24 range. Keeps things more regional and develops some strong rivalries. Dream scenario would look something like this in the end:

Pod #1
Rutgers
Maryland
North Carolina
Virginia
Penn State
Notre Dame

Pod #2
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois

Pod #3
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas

Pod #4
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Colorado

You play the 5 in your pod each year and rotate the rest. I think we’ll see this go to 9-12 conference games by the end of it.

ACC dissolves and SEC takes Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, maybe the Arizona schools as well. Gonna be several rounds of realignment to come. CFB is going to look unrecognizable from how we knew it a decade from now.

I love this list. Might have to swap ND with Illinois though or something. Brings back regionally with pods but as a conference, it's not big. It's HUGE and would be competitively superior as a whole to the SEC

 

[nick614]

LOL absolutely not if it is 24 teams those would be

Oregon
Washington
North Carolina
Notre Dame

and then either

Georgia
Florida

or if they want to stay in their regional league, add

Utah
Colorado

We aren't the Big 12, we aren't taking MAC level teams like Houston & Miami.

 

[king_kong_]

I love this list. Might have to swap ND with Illinois though or something. Brings back regionally with pods but as a conference, it's not big. It's HUGE and would be competitively superior as a whole to the SEC

quality (SEC) > quantity (any amount of teams b1g)

 

[redwine65]

I think the whole thing sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah... I am an old timer with his head stuck in the past and up his nostalgic $ss, blah, blah, blah. So spare me. Times change! Spare me. At one time the forward pass was condemned too as a violation of tradition! Spare me. The folks on here who are cheering all of this on are really cheering on the demise of Husker football. These super conferences are about attracting big money from big markets for and from glamor schools from dense population centers. This is a trajectory designed for the rich to get richer at the expense of those schools from less population dense areas. It is a damn good thing we joined the B1G before the implosion of NU football under Riley/Frost since I doubt we would be part of any discussions on joining the B1G now.

Conferences should make geographic sense and emphasize that which has always made college football so great: regional rivalry and loyalty with games between teams linked by culture, geography, climate, and common recruiting pools. Now the product will be a homogenized and nationalized "NFL lite" with free agency (transfer portal), big salaries (NIL), and games involving teams from either coast playing each other - - Rutgers vs USC! Oh yeah! - - and recruiting becoming national with the richest teams from the glamor schools buying the best talent. And newsflash: we are not one of the glamor schools.

Dismiss me all you want as an old fashioned crank. I just don't see how any of this is good for NU football. I think Trev Alberts knows it too, which is why I said uncomfortable changes were ahead in college football.

I agree, big picture and future wise, it's not gonna be as good as say during big 8 days...
but money rules the fallen world..thus the best outcome is either 4 conferences, the big 12/pac12 merge..
this would be the least blood in the streets...with like 4, 20 team conferences...

or it will be like the nfc/afc = big /sec
this would leave alot more blood in the streets with probably 2 , 24 team conferences...

right now I think it' just a money grab to get big name schools to play each other...see nebraska playing ohio state every year, and not playing other teams much...

but hopefully it leads to something worth rooting for...and it's good we are in the big...
I do like how the nfl is systematic, and there's no polls or opinions...it's only the grid iron and scoreboard...which is how it should be.

 

[king_kong_]

lol

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

I would as well…but Lawrence Kansas doesn’t bring a lot of eyeballs on FB Saturdays. KS would be a non- priority, fringe player for a spot in the BIG IMO.

Kc??

 

[HBK4life_rivals100467]

The way it's going just divide the country in half. East vs West. 2 mega conferences. Lame

 

[Redscarlet]

lol

Maybe he just wanted to show how stupid Warren desire was not wanting to play football in 2020..

 

[redwine65]

LOL absolutely not if it is 24 teams those would be

Oregon
Washington
North Carolina
Notre Dame

and then either

Georgia
Florida

or if they want to stay in their regional league, add

Utah
Colorado

We aren't the Big 12, we aren't taking MAC level teams like Houston & Miami.

la , chicago , ny are the top 3 markets, I think houston is #4,
plus houston is going places, see this video at, 6:00

also if they can get miami some classes besides basket weaving, they could go places too...both houston and miami are the top 2 places to recruiting, but maybe with nil that won't mean as much...

stanford is like the death star in the video, they have more money and schoolin then anyone except the ivy...

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Kc??

Chiefs. I don’t think KC residents give a piss about KS fb quite frankly. At least the majority don’t.

 

[nick614]

la , chicago , ny are the top 3 markets, I think houston is #4,
plus houston is going places, see this video at, 6:00

also if they can get miami some classes besides basket weaving, they could go places too...both houston and miami are the top 2 places to recruiting, but maybe with nil that won't mean as much...

stanford is like the death star in the video, they have more money and schoolin then anyone except the ivy...

Just because the school is named Houston doesnt mean it brings value. Texas & ATM own houston. Just like yeah the school is called Cincinnati, but it is owned by Ohio State.

These are MAC level schools that would be lucky to be scheduled as a free OOC win.

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

Just because the school is named Houston doesnt mean it brings value. Texas & ATM own houston. Just like yeah the school is called Cincinnati, but it is owned by Ohio State.

These are MAC level schools that would be lucky to be scheduled as a free OOC win.

Exactly…the SEC already has Texas and A&M. And Big 12 has Tex Tech and Baylor. Not going to be gaining much by bringing Houston fb on board. Kind of like bringing Cincinnati in to the BIG. In fact Cincy is a much better fb program.

 

[konaki]

You take Washington, Oregon, Stanford with already added USC and UCLA and add ND. You will most likely see the Divisions aligned from WEST, MIDWEST, NORTH and EAST. I think each division will have five schools in it then you play two games against the other divisions and add a couple of pre-league games to begin the year. I'm just shooting from the hip but this would be my teams in each division if I could set it up:

WEST...Wash, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA.

MIDWEST...Nebraska, Iowa, Minn, Wisconsin, Illinois.

North...Northwestern, Purdue, Notre Dame, Indiana, OSU.

EAST...Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland.

I had to separate OSU away from Michigan so I could keep the Michigan schools in the same Division but I suppose you could split them and they could always play each other yearly as tradition dictates.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Don't disagree with what you have said Pennsy.

Talked with Dr. BIL who is connected to Washington. He said academics has NOTHING to do with any of this. It is about FB. Oh and he is a KU grad as well.

The bigger question is where does Nebraska fit into all of this going forward? I agree with you that we could be out in the cold with our former B12 brethren if we would not have had the glory years of the 90's.

The biggest question for me going forward is how does this benefit Nebraska and how do we return to National Prominence?

Another comment from my BIL, is how there are fewer and fewer Husker fans who remember the glory years. Yep, I am 68 and lived through it all from start to finish but my attention span is waning.

Of course academics has nothing to do with it, that is all optics. If it really mattered the Big Ten would go after Harvard.

As far as NU goes, luckily, we are still a draw and have a huge fan base all over, that will change with more crappy seasons. BUT...with just back-back 9/10 win seasons, it all starts to come back.

 

[HuskerMania257460]

UVA over Oregon? Huh? You do realize this is about money right?

I see what you’re saying… They are not the #2 most valuable program that they could bring in football or money wise, but with each realignment discussion it’s been made known that the B1G wants to break into both of those areas.

Virginia also has the academic/cultural fit to go with it. If they can get either UNC or UVA out of the ACC they’ll pounce on it. I consider them to be 2a and 2b for the B1G.

Any of those top 5 are takes though if/when they secure ND.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

If everything is headed towards two super conferences then why let your competitor poach UVA and UNC?

 

[redwine65]

Just because the school is named Houston doesnt mean it brings value. Texas & ATM own houston. Just like yeah the school is called Cincinnati, but it is owned by Ohio State.

These are MAC level schools that would be lucky to be scheduled as a free OOC win.

I just think houston is a awakening sleeping giant. there's a reason a&m and texas wanted no part of them in the big 12..ask anyone in the state of texas where the recruits are and they all point to houston, their chancelor has them heading towards aau, the houston oil money will be pouring into nil, and the #4 tv market in the country.

but then I see these things developing quicker then others.

it's like when me and dr tom said go to the big 10, many said no....even years later I had to correct folks wanting to go back to the big 12...but as developments have shown I was correct on both occasions...


I thought about georgia and florida since they are aau, but they won't leave the sec and warm weather, they are too candy to play in the cold.