Big 12 Brackets
- Thread starter joberfire"okstatefan"
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We only have two guys that have a bye the first round, Landon and Alex. We should run away with it this year.
Can anyone explain how K Larkin got the #1 seed? That said i think the 2 spot is better.
Like the brackets. A few surprises but good overall. Excited to see Cody wrestle Novak.
Larkin beat both Larkin and Zerban.
Cant wait to watch the 157# matches at Big 12
Cant wait to watch the 157# matches at Big 12
I'm not sure the 1 seed is any easier of a path. Watters not going against OSU ended up making a big difference.
Agree I would prefer the matchup with Zerban over Larkin or Watters. But all 4 of the top seeds are potential all americans imho.
Could be wrong but I think the byes are completely random.
I saw that also, plus a bye gives up a chance for advancement points.
I could be mistaken, but I think Jax not getting a bye helps him for seeding at nationals gaining an extra match. May not matter at this point.
I could be wrong? @Corby2 and @WillieTheBrain can correct me, but I think he only gets 13 matches if he makes the finals.
So that criteria is most likely out the window?
If the extra match got him to 15 matches that would be true. That would allow him to reach 15 matches and earn an RPI. But since he only has 9 matches currently he will not reach 15 even after the Big 12 tournament.
Forgive my ignorance, but is there a reason why the highest seeds are not the ones that are granted BYEs when appropriate? Why would a 5-seed deserve a BYE over a higher seeded person? Surely the wrestler named "BYE" is weaker than an actual opponent...
Correct he won't have 15 so he won't earn the 10 points for RPI
They randomize it so one team doesn't get an advantage
I don’t really know but I’d guess it’s because it could kind of put the best team at a disadvantage in the team score if they had a bunch of high seeds on byes in the first round?
But you lose the advancement points for that match which in a close tournament could cost you a championship. If we got 9 first round byes, that costs us a minimum of 9 team points and a maximum of 27 if all 9 were pins. I would hate to lose the team title because we got 9 first round byes.
Well the counter to that is reward the point. The seeding is an earned thing, so maybe the point too? Like I said, I had no idea why the byes were the way they were.
Do you award 1, 1.5, 2 or 3 points for each bye? All 4 are in play for every match. If you just give 1, is it fair to assume no #1 or #2 seed would have not scored bonus points? There is no truly fair way when team scores are in play. They have come up with a system that attempts to be as fair as possible and the coaches agree on.
I vaguely remember mizzou’s first year in the tournament and they had 7-8 guys wrestle pigtails. All of their wrestlers advanced and many had bonus points. OSU only had 2-3 wrestle in pigtails with one getting bonus. Mizzou was ahead of us by 10+ points going into the quarterfinals. We were not going to beat mizzou that year but it seemed like they got a big head start on the field that year.
I like our #1's not getting byes. Theyre going to wreck TF out of those guys and I get to watch it. Plus we get more points. Its a win- win!
if you have a bye, and win your second match, you still get the advancement point from the bye round. What you give up is the chance to earn bonus points. That really cost us the year we tied with that other school a couple of years ago.