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If we have 9 teams and none make the sweet 16 that will be embarrassing
Most of us will root for anyone in the conference not named Penn State
Man I'm so jealous of Michigan's draw getting Colorado St. and no first four as an 11 seed. We deserve that more.
Right now Iowa is playing the best, Illinois has a shot if their point guard gets himself under control, hard to imagine that happens for multiple games, Purdue if Ivey shows up, and Stefanovic can consistently knock down threes at a 35+ percent rate. Just don't think Wisco has enough inside.
Zero confidence in Illinois. Clark Kellogg even suggested that Chattanooga would give them a fight. I’ve seen Chattanooga and I don’t believe that. However, Illinois is playing badly. They have become a mammoth center and a bunch of 3 point chuckers. Curbelo is a human turnover. Doubt they go far.
Why any coach would want Curbelo on his team is a mystery to me. He might be the most selfish and out of control player I have ever seen. And he's not that good
Obviously! Iowa hasn’t made it pass the second round in something like 20 years. Big 10 beating it’s chest about being best conference. Love those 12 v 5 matchups but I would have gone against Iowa regardless of its seed.
BIG beats each other up in regular season and in their tourney...they look bad in NCAA each year it seems. Need a few of these teams to step up this year to prove we truly are the best conference out there
If there actually is a systemic reason behind Big Ten tournament underperformance (and to be clear, I don’t think there is nearly enough sample to conclude this) it’s likely the 20 game marathon schedule.
The Big Ten is consistently rated highly by computers. They aren’t biased by the fanbases; the Big Ten is performing very well in the early season OOC period.
Why? Because we lost in OT and Iowa lost? All of these teams are good and capable of winning or they wouldn’t be in the tournament. The difference in styles of these mid majors is probably a shock to the system after 3 months of Big Ten conference basketball.
Didn’t Richmond played 4 games in their tournament?
Because results matter and between last season and the start of this year the B1G has underperformed.
We can talk about what the issue is, but the losses are still losses no matter the circumstance.
The RU loss is whatever, that was a competitive game against two quality P6 teams.
The Iowa loss is bad.
Perhaps my post is a bit premature, we’ll have to see what happens.
Sometimes the better team just loses. That doesn’t make them overrated unless you can establish a pattern. And 1 tournament plus 1/3 of the first round of a second one doesn’t come anywhere close to establishing a significant pattern.
You’re spot on, which is why I said perhaps my post is premature. I’m a bit emotional this week
But would two straight years be a baseline? Like where do you draw that line?
I’m concerned because perception matters and if the B1G underperforms again this year, B1G bubble teams won’t get the benefit of the doubt next year IMO
Who played 4 games in 4 days? Not Iowa. Not even close. They played the 12th and 13th and not again until today
Yup…and based too much in tradition. Old style
coaches who recruit old style methodical players and mammoth centers (with some exceptions like Ivy and Ayo last season). Then they insist on 20 league games so the teams beat the hell out of each other and routinely seem shocked when the game “opens up” or teams spread the floor (ND and Richmond) in the NCAA tournament.
Four in four it is.
See my post below that where I say “perhaps my post is premature”
I doubt two straight years would mean too much, but maybe if literally everyone went out in the first round or something. If it’s just slightly below expectations then no way. I don’t really think it’s likely to affect selection either way. It’s not like the PAC got a bunch of benefit of the doubt after having an unexpectedly good tournament last year.You’re spot on, which is why I said perhaps my post is premature. I’m a bit emotional this week
But would two straight years be a baseline? Like where do you draw that line?
I’m concerned because perception matters and if the B1G underperforms again this year, B1G bubble teams won’t get the benefit of the doubt next year IMO
also last year was weird for the abbreviated schedules, so there was much less data to compare to each other. The Big Ten probably DID overperform to some degree in the OOC last year, but that’s not the same as being systematically overrated. They weren’t even considered the best conference this year and are only a couple of years removed from a 13-5 conference team not making the tournament. I think the previous couple years have distorted people’s perceptions of what the Big Ten is normally considered, which is a strong conference but probably not the best on average. Those honors would probably go to the Big 12 or the Big East back in the day.
This became a very long post.
If the favorites always win then no one would be watching this tournament. The Big Ten sucked last year in the NCAAs but everything last year was bizarre. All of them were stuck in a bubble in Indianapolis from Big Ten Tournament through the NCAAs which took its toll by all accounts. Plus every year is different. Just look at the history.
We also have a lot of Big East media cheerleaders around here like Adam Zagoria waiting in the weeds to pounce on any Big Ten team failure. Tweets immediately about Big Ten failures when Iowa gets upset by a 12 (there are 5-12 upsets ever my year) but doesn’t mention 11 seed Michigan beating a 6 seed or the fact that Big East Marquette is getting taken to the woodshed by 30 points and counting by an average North Carolina team. If a Hurley got a Big Ten job I’m sure those snarky Big Ten tweets would cease.
We also have a lot of Big East media cheerleaders around here like Adam Zagoria waiting in the weeds to pounce on any Big Ten team failure. Tweets immediately about Big Ten failures when Iowa gets upset by a 12 (there are 5-12 upsets ever my year) but doesn’t mention 11 seed Michigan beating a 6 seed or the fact that Big East Marquette is getting taken to the woodshed by 30 points and counting by an average North Carolina team. If a Hurley got a Big Ten job I’m sure those snarky Big Ten tweets would cease.
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And my post was post-mature. Michigan won, beating a #6 seed, carrying the boxing gloves (err, torch) for the B1G.
There is more disinformation and jumping to conclusions in this thread than there is on the CE board. 