A lot of those unsuccessful college coaches came in at +50 old and from a 2nd or 3rd college HC with no NFL touch whatsoever...Ryan Day may be less set in his ways and was a QB coach for the Eagles (2015) and 49ers (2016).
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I would say Jim Harbaugh did have some success in the NFL for sure. He coached the 49ers for only four years. But in that time his record was 49-22-1. His teams appeared in two NFC championship games and one Super Bowl. He never had a sub .500 season but was fired after going 8-8 in 2014.
I think his problem is that some people had more of a problem with him personally than as a coach. He was hard-nosed and didn't put up with any crap. Kaepernick's record when Harbaugh was there was 25-14 including two NFC championships and a Super Bowl appearance. When Harbaugh left, Kaepernick's record was 3-16.
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Harbaugh is a miss but he is more of the exception than the rule. College coaches in general don’t make for good NFL coaches.
Didn’t Harbaugh succeed Mike Singletary? Seem to remember the 49ers being on the verge when Samurai Mike was relieved of his duties.
I am well aware college coaches don't usually make good NFL coaches and have said it here several times. And Michigan certainly wasn't Harbaugh's first college job. I am sure you know he did pretty well at Stanford before going to the 49ers.
The 49ers weren't on the verge of anything but collapse when Singletary was fired after week 16 in 2010. They were 5-10 at that time. His short career record was 18-22 with no playoff appearances.
Harbaugh went in there and turned that team around. I have been a Jim Harbaugh fan since he played with the Bears. But, guys like him and Singletary won't coach in today's NFL because they are too mean.
I have been saying for about 10 years or so, today's NFL players are bigger, stronger and faster than guys of my generation. But, they are far mentally weaker than guys of my days and before and cannot handle criticism. Nothing has changed in my opinion except the players are getting worse at handling negative things and coaches who are tough on them.
I completely agree with that synopsis. What I’m saying is the horses were already in the Barn. Harbaugh inherited a very talented team which would explain why he went to the NFC championship game his first season. He never had to endure a complete rebuild to win in the NFL.
I just think players today just need to be told the truth and have open communication.
Was the yelling ever necessary?
Can’t you get things across without screaming in someone’s face?
Doesn’t it just show you have an anger issue?
Belichek has been doing things this way for awhile. Just honest and direct and pro players respond to that.
IMO, a big reason Nagy has struggled. His communication is brutal.
I agree with you. Based on a pinned post though, I deleted what you quoted so as to avoid some of the issues.
But yeah, his kid is a non-combatant.
And a second thing I agree with you on. Should either of us be worried? Cubs or Sox? What's your ketchup on a hot dog stance?
Jim Harbaugh is a fraud.
Alternate Headline: Boomer doesn't know how to adapt to changing times.
Dad?White Sox, execution without trial for ketchup on a hotdog.
I audibly laughed, loud. See you for Thanksgiving tomorrow?
I'll be there at noon. I can make it 11 am if you wanna throw around the 'ol pigskin?
If Nagy's communication with the team resembles in any way how he speaks to the media, it must be infuriating for the players. Every time he speaks, he really says very little of substance. It is mostly broad platitudes and buzz phrases he uses. I wonder if he flips a switch when talking to the 2 different audiences.
I am picking the Lions to beat the Bears today. I wanted to say that now while I am thinking about it instead of forgetting and coming here later to say I picked the Lions. No reason other than a hunch Detroit will win.
To bad teams should be a great game. You might be right. Coaching edge goes to Detroit and that maybe the difference. Not that Detroit has good coaches but you get the point.
Interesting you mention coaching. This morning, I read in our Herald News a Shaw Media article from Hub Arkush. In the article he points out, through close resources, George McCaskey has been directing things from the top. From the decision to start and play Fields Fields, to the things Nagy has said only to backtrack a day or two later. I believe it. Now some of Nagy's actions seem to suggest he was getting orders.
The article goes on not to say Nagy should be kept or defend him. It does, however, point out the fact the Bears ownership have, again, set yet another coach up to fail. Try to get ahold of that article if you can because it's excellent.
The weird thing this is this. I have close friend who suggested this about six weeks or so ago. Again, the failures always go back to ownership regardless of who plays or coaches and whoever the GM is.
What this does, to me, is to call into question everything Nagy has done...even the play calling. Think about it. COULD it be true? Absolutely, I think knowing the McCaskeys.
And why do you think George McCaskey wanted Fields to play? This is my theory. I think McCaskey wanted Fields playing because he felt, even if the Bears were losing, more people would come to see Fields play than Dalton. He didn't want Fields to play because he gave the Bears a better chance to win. But because Fields would put more asses in the seats. I believe that 100%.
Always remember, the McCaskeys are all about attendance. Even over success. Years ago Mike McCaskey said, in a moment when he swerved into the truth, "the goal is to be competitive every year." He never said the goal was to win a championship. That's all anyone needs to know. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend!
Hands down the worst owners in the league.
Bears on @ 12:30 today let’s see if they can find another way to lose. Have a Happy Thanksgiving LTHS and good luck to the Porters this weekend!
Neither team actually won that game. One of them just avoided losing again.All I can say after this win.
My goodness!
WOW
Here's what I imagine will be an unpopular opinion: Cole Kmet is not good.
I don't think you're crazy. The headline says 4 picks but the two I saw in first half were clearly not his fault.
The Bears are circling the drain and some major changes at the top are obviously needed as often stated on this forum. Unfortunately, after playing their final 4 games of the season (following the Pack this coming Sunday) against teams all with losing records, some false hopes for the future may be generated. Fool's gold.
I fear that as well. However, I really don't see a situation where Nagy keeps his job. I'm just hoping the changes don't end there. But to beat a dead horse.... the McCaskey's will still own the team so whatever positive changes may come, their overall impact will always be limited.
Unfortunately, there are rumors that someone may be getting promoted.
And that "fraud" beat OSU, won the B1G championship and has his team in the NCAA playoffs.
Nagy is getting fired, period. Pace is going out the door with him, too. What difference does it make? The Bears will just hire some other guys they will end up firing for poor performance in a few years, anyway.
That organization is a complete embarrassment. The owners are the worst, not only in football, but it all professional sports. The coaches and GM are some of the worst in the NFL. The stadium they play in is the worst in the NFL. The playing surface is the worst in the NFL. They can't even get their damned technology to work for communications from above in the skybox down onto the field.
That organization is a complete embarrassment. The owners are the worst, not only in football, but it all professional sports. The coaches and GM are some of the worst in the NFL. The stadium they play in is the worst in the NFL. The playing surface is the worst in the NFL. They can't even get their damned technology to work for communications from above in the skybox down onto the field.
Please feel free to share his overall record against OSU, how many B1G Championships he has won, and how many times he's been in the NCAA playoffs since becoming the HC of Michigan.
I am by NO means a B1G fan. I think it is the most overrated conference. So, I couldn't care less about his overall record. But, to say he is a fraud, is silly.
How many B1G teams have won the playoff title? I'll hang up and wait for your answer.