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If you assume Moos will be looking for a new men’s basketball coach, what do want in that coach? Not WHO, what criteria/qualifications would you like Moos or the search committee to look for?

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1. An African-American. I’m a pasty white nearly 50 year old conservative, but it’s time for the U of N to give a chance to an African American coach in a major sport. Especially when you are trying to recruit mostly African American kids to come to a state where only 4.5% and a city where only 2.1% of the population looks like them.

2. I want a NAME! So help me god if the next hire is someone that the average fan (which sorry most Nebraskans basketball knowledge places them in the below average fan) has to say....who??? I might lose it. We need immediate name recognition. Someone that will make people around the country say WOW! If the name isn’t immediately recognizable to the recruits, it better be recognizable to their high school and AAU coaches.

3. A high level of success in the sport. Someone who is used to winning at a high level.

4. Someone who will run something unique to the conference. We can’t win here doing what a lot of others want to do. Personally I’d love to see a version of “40 minutes of Hell”, because you’d have to be a deep team. To do that you’d have to be committed to having a full roster (which we don’t). Recruits coming here would know they are going to have to play hard, and understand they WILL want and need to be subbed for. Recruits coming here will know ahead of time they will bust their *** or won’t play.

5. We are in the Big 10, and we need someone with major recruiting ties to talent rich areas. Chicago would be nice, but Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati or Milwaukee would work too. Matching that NAME with a natural Big 10 area pipeline would be a huge plus. Someone who knows the summer AAU circuit in the major cities in the Big 10 region.

6. Integrity. Enough said.

7. Someone with the voice/demeanor/presence/look needed to be successful and demand respect.

I could care less if our next coach has head coaching experience. We need a coach who can get players to come here. Period. Nebraska will likely never have a group of boosters who will partake in the dirtiness of college basketball, so we need a coach who will make recruits want to come here vs get paid to come here.

Basketball is all about who is playing for you. Ask Luke Walton, who was the next great NBA head coach at Golden State running the show while Kerr was getting healthy, and now is going to get shown the door in LA because LeBron wants him gone (possibly so maybe Lue can come there?).

Like I’ve mentioned before. We’ve tried the “up and comer” guy with some HC experience numerous times. Ho hum, whoop de do. Our history is a laughing stock. Time to try something else. What do we have to lose but more games?

Now, can we find someone who fits all 7??? I’m still looking. If Jim Jackson (Fox Sports) had got in to coaching he’d be close.
 
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This is not how you approach hiring someone, in anything. You have to get the highest quality person that you can, that wants to take the job that is offered. I’m not saying that some of your criteria wouldn’t be nice, but in no way is this how it should be done. Do you know the name Eric Mussleman? Do you know the name Nate Oats? Those would be two names I’d look hard at. If you don’t know them, I’m not sure you are even a “casual fan”. Tell me a name that people are going to say “WOW” to around the country that would come here? The only wow coaches aren’t leaving to come to Nebraska.... have you seen the roster for next year? We will lose 85% of our scoring if Roby leaves. (Watson, Palmer, Copeland are all gone for sure.) And if you e watched a game this year, there is no savior coming off the bench that will step in and fill that kind of void. I would love for Nebraska to get a big name but I just don’t see that happening? Just my opinion so everyone can take it hiwnthey like. I agree with other posters in the fact that I don’t care what ethnicity our next coach is, whenever it happens. I just want someone that wants to come here, that will recruit and bring depth, and put a quality team on the floor every night.
 
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Just spitballing here, but how about Danny Manning. He has the pedigree. Wonder if he might flourish out of the shadow of tobacco road.
 

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Just spitballing here, but how about Danny Manning. He has the pedigree. Wonder if he might flourish out of the shadow of tobacco road.
He has been brutal at Wake...recruiting has been okay but I thought he would kill it out there.

Kentucky has an assistant, I forget his name at the moment, but he could be a star.
 
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Didn't Tennessee men ask pat summit if she would want to coach their men's team instead of the women but she turned them down? Roughly 20 years ago
 

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If you assume Moos will be looking for a new men’s basketball coach, what do want in that coach? Not WHO, what criteria/qualifications would you like Moos or the search committee to look for?

Me:

1. An African-American. I’m a pasty white nearly 50 year old conservative, but it’s time for the U of N to give a chance to an African American coach in a major sport. Especially when you are trying to recruit mostly African American kids to come to a state where only 4.5% and a city where only 2.1% of the population looks like them.

2. I want a NAME! So help me god if the next hire is someone that the average fan (which sorry most Nebraskans basketball knowledge places them in the below average fan) has to say....who??? I might lose it. We need immediate name recognition. Someone that will make people around the country say WOW! If the name isn’t immediately recognizable to the recruits, it better be recognizable to their high school and AAU coaches.

3. A high level of success in the sport. Someone who is used to winning at a high level.

4. Someone who will run something unique to the conference. We can’t win here doing what a lot of others want to do. Personally I’d love to see a version of “40 minutes of Hell”, because you’d have to be a deep team. To do that you’d have to be committed to having a full roster (which we don’t). Recruits coming here would know they are going to have to play hard, and understand they WILL want and need to be subbed for. Recruits coming here will know ahead of time they will bust their *** or won’t play.

5. We are in the Big 10, and we need someone with major recruiting ties to talent rich areas. Chicago would be nice, but Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati or Milwaukee would work too. Matching that NAME with a natural Big 10 area pipeline would be a huge plus. Someone who knows the summer AAU circuit in the major cities in the Big 10 region.

6. Integrity. Enough said.

7. Someone with the voice/demeanor/presence/look needed to be successful and demand respect.

I could care less if our next coach has head coaching experience. We need a coach who can get players to come here. Period. Nebraska will likely never have a group of boosters who will partake in the dirtiness of college basketball, so we need a coach who will make recruits want to come here vs get paid to come here.

Basketball is all about who is playing for you. Ask Luke Walton, who was the next great NBA head coach at Golden State running the show while Kerr was getting healthy, and now is going to get shown the door in LA because LeBron wants him gone (possibly so maybe Lue can come there?).

Like I’ve mentioned before. We’ve tried the “up and comer” guy with some HC experience numerous times. Ho hum, whoop de do. Our history is a laughing stock. Time to try something else. What do we have to lose but more games?

Now, can we find someone who fits all 7??? I’m still looking. If Jim Jackson (Fox Sports) had got in to coaching he’d be close.
Can't argue with anything you said. Well put..
 
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This is not how you approach hiring someone, in anything. You have to get the highest quality person that you can, that wants to take the job that is offered. I’m not saying that some of your criteria wouldn’t be nice, but in no way is this how it should be done. Do you know the name Eric Mussleman? Do you know the name Nate Oats? Those would be two names I’d look hard at. If you don’t know them, I’m not sure you are even a “casual fan”. Tell me a name that people are going to say “WOW” to around the country that would come here? The only wow coaches aren’t leaving to come to Nebraska.... have you seen the roster for next year? We will lose 85% of our scoring if Roby leaves. (Watson, Palmer, Copeland are all gone for sure.) And if you e watched a game this year, there is no savior coming off the bench that will step in and fill that kind of void. I would love for Nebraska to get a big name but I just don’t see that happening? Just my opinion so everyone can take it hiwnthey like. I agree with other posters in the fact that I don’t care what ethnicity our next coach is, whenever it happens. I just want someone that wants to come here, that will recruit and bring depth, and put a quality team on the floor every night.

Gee no never heard of those guys. Does one make applesauce and the other granola bars????? No wait he was a duo with Daryl Hall???

Yes I know who both of them are. I’ve actually met Oats on 11/29/16 when they played CU and was lucky enough to talk to him a bit. I was on visitor coach detail. I immediately liked him and thought back then, maybe just maybe could we get this guy to Lincoln if Miles continued to suck? So I’m going to say I’m way beyond a casual fan.

Too bad I bet Nebraska waited one year too long for Oats. He’s proved himself and will probably have much better options this year.

You assume the WOW has to be a current HC.

I’m calling it now, it won’t be IF Roby leaves. He’d be an idiot to stay.

So you want the same type of search that has been tried, and failed. Doomed to repeat history.
 

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You lead with African American #1 - Wow! Kind of thinned the herd a bit early.

You discredit the rest of your qualifications.

I work in a profession where it is imperative to the African American community that there be a proportional representation of African Americans hired, and that is fine with me. So i guess you discredit those people too huh?
 
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1A) someone who can coach. This means recruiting talent, development of players AND assistant coaches, can win games.

1B) refer to 1A.

The best coach in the history of our program could recruit, but wasn’t exactly considered a great X’s and O’s guy. So give me someone who gives this program the best chance to get talent here.
 

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I'll take a black guy if he's a quality coach. But ethnicity should be the last thing that is considered. And even then, there are pros and cons to both

Maybe just maybe we are going to have to let someone learn on the job if the upside is there.
 

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Jeeze dude.
"Race shouldnt matter! Judge but content of character!" Except when it does and when we dont.

Hire the best candidate. I dont care if hes black white or chinese. My goodness.

Was Tim Miles the best candidate? Doc Sadler? Barry Collier? How did that work out? Are they bad coaches or are they not a good fit for Nebraska?

I pointed it out before and I’ll say it again. Lincoln, Nebraska is the most geographically isolated P5 school from major talent. Very few people want to accept that fact. There are individual high schools that have more D1 talent every year than our entire state. We have a problem getting basketball talent to come here.
 

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I work in a profession where it is imperative to the African American community that there be a proportional representation of African Americans hired, and that is fine with me. So i guess you discredit those people too huh?

Affirmative action is an outdated practice and needs to be abolished. Not sure whats wrong with hiring people based on talent, skill, character and merit over non skilled quotas. Kinda dumb.
 

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People that are pretending like it is horrible that he said he would want a black coach need to stop pretending like they are outraged.
Nobody’s outraged, put the straw man away. It’s just stupid to have your very first requirement for our next coach be that he’s black. I think it’s comical actually. Seriously, that ***** funny.
 
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I don't follow basketball that closely, but I remember the charisma of Danny Nee.

I would go the other way as the OP and forget all the numerous checkboxes and look for an ambitious young guy with charisma.

Just going after those traits alone, will usually net you something positive, no matter what business or position you are hiring for.

It doesn't have to be too complicated.
 
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If you assume Moos will be looking for a new men’s basketball coach, what do want in that coach? Not WHO, what criteria/qualifications would you like Moos or the search committee to look for?

Me:

1. An African-American. I’m a pasty white nearly 50 year old conservative, but it’s time for the U of N to give a chance to an African American coach in a major sport. Especially when you are trying to recruit mostly African American kids to come to a state where only 4.5% and a city where only 2.1% of the population looks like them.

2. I want a NAME! So help me god if the next hire is someone that the average fan (which sorry most Nebraskans basketball knowledge places them in the below average fan) has to say....who??? I might lose it. We need immediate name recognition. Someone that will make people around the country say WOW! If the name isn’t immediately recognizable to the recruits, it better be recognizable to their high school and AAU coaches.

3. A high level of success in the sport. Someone who is used to winning at a high level.

4. Someone who will run something unique to the conference. We can’t win here doing what a lot of others want to do. Personally I’d love to see a version of “40 minutes of Hell”, because you’d have to be a deep team. To do that you’d have to be committed to having a full roster (which we don’t). Recruits coming here would know they are going to have to play hard, and understand they WILL want and need to be subbed for. Recruits coming here will know ahead of time they will bust their *** or won’t play.

5. We are in the Big 10, and we need someone with major recruiting ties to talent rich areas. Chicago would be nice, but Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati or Milwaukee would work too. Matching that NAME with a natural Big 10 area pipeline would be a huge plus. Someone who knows the summer AAU circuit in the major cities in the Big 10 region.

6. Integrity. Enough said.

7. Someone with the voice/demeanor/presence/look needed to be successful and demand respect.

I could care less if our next coach has head coaching experience. We need a coach who can get players to come here. Period. Nebraska will likely never have a group of boosters who will partake in the dirtiness of college basketball, so we need a coach who will make recruits want to come here vs get paid to come here.

Basketball is all about who is playing for you. Ask Luke Walton, who was the next great NBA head coach at Golden State running the show while Kerr was getting healthy, and now is going to get shown the door in LA because LeBron wants him gone (possibly so maybe Lue can come there?).

Like I’ve mentioned before. We’ve tried the “up and comer” guy with some HC experience numerous times. Ho hum, whoop de do. Our history is a laughing stock. Time to try something else. What do we have to lose but more games?

Now, can we find someone who fits all 7??? I’m still looking. If Jim Jackson (Fox Sports) had got in to coaching he’d be close.
1a. it’s time to hire a coach with tattoos.
 

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If you assume Moos will be looking for a new men’s basketball coach, what do want in that coach? Not WHO, what criteria/qualifications would you like Moos or the search committee to look for?

Me:

1. An African-American. I’m a pasty white nearly 50 year old conservative, but it’s time for the U of N to give a chance to an African American coach in a major sport. Especially when you are trying to recruit mostly African American kids to come to a state where only 4.5% and a city where only 2.1% of the population looks like them.

2. I want a NAME! So help me god if the next hire is someone that the average fan (which sorry most Nebraskans basketball knowledge places them in the below average fan) has to say....who??? I might lose it. We need immediate name recognition. Someone that will make people around the country say WOW! If the name isn’t immediately recognizable to the recruits, it better be recognizable to their high school and AAU coaches.

3. A high level of success in the sport. Someone who is used to winning at a high level.

4. Someone who will run something unique to the conference. We can’t win here doing what a lot of others want to do. Personally I’d love to see a version of “40 minutes of Hell”, because you’d have to be a deep team. To do that you’d have to be committed to having a full roster (which we don’t). Recruits coming here would know they are going to have to play hard, and understand they WILL want and need to be subbed for. Recruits coming here will know ahead of time they will bust their *** or won’t play.

5. We are in the Big 10, and we need someone with major recruiting ties to talent rich areas. Chicago would be nice, but Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinnati or Milwaukee would work too. Matching that NAME with a natural Big 10 area pipeline would be a huge plus. Someone who knows the summer AAU circuit in the major cities in the Big 10 region.

6. Integrity. Enough said.

7. Someone with the voice/demeanor/presence/look needed to be successful and demand respect.

I could care less if our next coach has head coaching experience. We need a coach who can get players to come here. Period. Nebraska will likely never have a group of boosters who will partake in the dirtiness of college basketball, so we need a coach who will make recruits want to come here vs get paid to come here.

Basketball is all about who is playing for you. Ask Luke Walton, who was the next great NBA head coach at Golden State running the show while Kerr was getting healthy, and now is going to get shown the door in LA because LeBron wants him gone (possibly so maybe Lue can come there?).

Like I’ve mentioned before. We’ve tried the “up and comer” guy with some HC experience numerous times. Ho hum, whoop de do. Our history is a laughing stock. Time to try something else. What do we have to lose but more games?

Now, can we find someone who fits all 7??? I’m still looking. If Jim Jackson (Fox Sports) had got in to coaching he’d be close.
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Nobody’s outraged, put the straw man away. It’s just stupid to have your very first requirement for our next coach be that he’s black. I think it’s comical actually. Seriously, that ***** funny.

Ask Illinois basketball fans what is funnier. I’m sure they could give you a long list today.
 

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Was Tim Miles the best candidate? Doc Sadler? Barry Collier? How did that work out? Are they bad coaches or are they not a good fit for Nebraska?

I pointed it out before and I’ll say it again. Lincoln, Nebraska is the most geographically isolated P5 school from major talent. Very few people want to accept that fact. There are individual high schools that have more D1 talent every year than our entire state. We have a problem getting basketball talent to come here.

Geographically isolated? Then how the hell does Iowa St, Kansas, K St, Iowa, and Creighton have winning programs? Last time I checked they were all pretty close to Nebraska. It’s coaching...
 

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Honestly, who is Nebraska really going to get that's better than the current coach? Not saying that the admin can't get a good upgrade, just who is out there that is solid right now that would be willing to make the move to a very dismal program? And if they show up, what happens if we see the same movie again that's been playing for the last 20 years?
 

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Was Tim Miles the best candidate? Doc Sadler? Barry Collier? How did that work out? Are they bad coaches or are they not a good fit for Nebraska?

I pointed it out before and I’ll say it again. Lincoln, Nebraska is the most geographically isolated P5 school from major talent. Very few people want to accept that fact. There are individual high schools that have more D1 talent every year than our entire state. We have a problem getting basketball talent to come here.

On a side note: You mentioned Barry Collier. My argument against hiring a "name" coach is that for a few years assistant coaches from Butler were as good of candidates as one could hope for: Stevens, Holtman, Matta. Nobody was thrilled either when Wisconsin hired Dick Bennett from Wisconsin-GB or Bo Ryan from Wisconsin- Milwaukee.

The bottom line to me is finding a good coach who demands great execution, knows how to motivate, will bring in a great staff, knows what to look for talent-wise and can get that talent on campus. I would look for someone who is a great leader.
 
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Geographically isolated? Then how the hell does Iowa St, Kansas, K St, Iowa, and Creighton have winning programs? Last time I checked they were all pretty close to Nebraska. It’s coaching...

Yes geographically isolated. Get out a map and a compass. Figure it out. Those are all pretty close to Nebraska, but.....geography lesson for you, Lincoln is the furthest away from population centers.

Really? You are really asking that question? Like you think all these programs every year start off on equal footing? Are you serious? It’s tradition. We have ZERO. If we didn’t have any in football we’d really be screwed.

Kansas State is a top 40 program in all time wins.

Kansas? # 2 all time wins.

Iowa State has closer proximity to the Twin Cities, Milwaukee, and Chicago.

Iowa takes advantage of their top in state recruits, and Iowa vs Nebraska historically producing high school talent, not even close. Hopefully that gap is closing.

Creighton? Basketball is King on campus.

It’s the ability to get talent on campus first. If it were coaching only then why wouldn’t Altman want to come home? Because he realizes Lincoln Nebraska in a program with no tradition is a gamble not worth taking. If it were coaching only then we should have guys lined up wanting to be the Bill Snyder of basketball. Why hasn’t that happened before 2019?
 

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On a side note: You mentioned Barry Collier. My argument against hiring a "name" coach is that for a few years assistant coaches from Butler were as good of candidates as one could hope for: Stevens, Holtman, Matta. Nobody was thrilled either when Wisconsin hired Dick Bennett from Wisconsin-GB or Bo Ryan from Wisconsin- Milwaukee.

The bottom line to me is finding a good coach who demands great execution, knows how to motivate, will bring in a great staff, knows what to look for talent-wise and can get that talent on campus. I would look for someone who is a great leader.

And again, it’s 2019. Did the ADs doing the hiring not think they had those qualities in the guy they hired????
 

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I'll take a black guy if he's a quality coach. But ethnicity should be the last thing that is considered. And even then, there are pros and cons to both

I would be all for an African American coach just as long as he is not a has-been like Tubby Smith. For that matter I don't want a White, Asian or Hispanic coach who has been through the mill. Let's get a dynamic coach this time. One with a plan. He will cost the Huskers big bucks. Are the powers to be ready to do that?