Basketball portal

[mgbreeze]

So, not trying to be a dick. (some people ITT have personal issues with me ) What, if anything, makes you believe that will happen? Or is your “hope” more like… “I hope I win the lottery.” ?

I have no issue with you being a dick, that's a fair question. Specifically, I think Williams and Gary moving on clears significant existing NIL funds and Hoiberg must be banging the table pretty hard that we need to spend more. That, and B1G minutes are always attractive and playing with Rienk should be appealing to scorers. He's an unselfish big that can pass.

 

[IowaHuskr]

It will always be a tough budget to allocate year after year. Football will always get the vast percentage due to our program's history and financial return potential. VB has the following of loyal fans who love the results and are willing to contribute. Basketball has captured interest from fans who show up in recent seasons but it lacks program history and results. Therefore the fan base is reluctant to step up financially to get our NIL budget at a competitive level. Compared to others in our geographioc area(Creighton and Iowa State) our NIL budget is paltry. They both made the round of 32 with a chance for the sweet 16. Our fan base is begging just to get an invite to the NCAA. But when will our well heeled donors step up to get the basketball program what it needs to get over the hump. It shouldn't surprise anyone where we finish in the BIG conference standings when comparing what we don't have in NIL money to the other conference members. A lot of experts thought DeVries would take the opening in Iowa City. But on the same day Iowa offered him a NIL budget of 2.5 million, Indiana offered him a 7.5 million NIL budget. Guess which offer he took and look at the number of players entering the transfer portal in Iowa City. Owen Freeman is smiling about the two million he is receiving from Creighton's NIL budget. Their donors stepped up big financially. It seems like a Catch 22 for the Husker basketball program. It needs another donor(s) like Hendricks did with his millions to build a state of the art basketball practice facility at UNL. Pinnacle Bank Arena is a fabulous venue for our men's and women's teams to play in. Hopefully some giving high net worth boosters will make the leap of faith for the basketball program. Like V Doub says the potential is there for the taking.

 

[V-Doub]

I have no issue with you being a dick, that's a fair question. Specifically, I think Williams and Gary moving on clears significant existing NIL funds and Hoiberg must be banging the table pretty hard that we need to spend more. That, and B1G minutes are always attractive and playing with Rienk should be appealing to scorers. He's an unselfish big that can pass.

Gawd I hope you’re right. We need several players from the portal, but we had to get a stud point guard. We need guys who can shoot, plus a wing and maybe a big. In the end, we can’t go 0fer in the portal again. If Fred only hits on 1 player please let it be a stud point guard.

I think that’s the fastest way to be at least decent again. You probably won’t win any championships with just a stud PG and a very solid 4.(who has to play the 5 mostly) But I good PG and a good post player can take a basketball team a long way.

 

[V-Doub]

It will always be a tough budget to allocate year after year. Football will always get the vast percentage due to our program's history and financial return potential. VB has the following of loyal fans who love the results and are willing to contribute. Basketball has captured interest from fans who show up in recent seasons but it lacks program history and results. Therefore the fan base is reluctant to step up financially to get our NIL budget at a competitive level. Compared to others in our geographioc area(Creighton and Iowa State) our NIL budget is paltry. They both made the round of 32 with a chance for the sweet 16. Our fan base is begging just to get an invite to the NCAA. But when will our well heeled donors step up to get the basketball program what it needs to get over the hump. It shouldn't surprise anyone where we finish in the BIG conference standings when comparing what we don't have in NIL money to the other conference members. A lot of experts thought DeVries would take the opening in Iowa City. But on the same day Iowa offered him a NIL budget of 2.5 million, Indiana offered him a 7.5 million NIL budget. Guess which offer he took and look at the number of players entering the transfer portal in Iowa City. Owen Freeman is smiling about the two million he is receiving from Creighton's NIL budget. Their donors stepped up big financially. It seems like a Catch 22 for the Husker basketball program. It needs another donor(s) like Hendricks did with his millions to build a state of the art basketball practice facility at UNL. Pinnacle Bank Arena is a fabulous venue for our men's and women's teams to play in. Hopefully some giving high net worth boosters will make the leap of faith for the basketball program. Like V Doub says the potential is there for the taking.

It really seems that some of our fans just don’t want to accept that we might not be spending enough to be competitive. I know it’s easy to dig your heels in and say “I don’t believe it” when kids don’t have to disclose deals and actual numbers are hard to verify. But every damn bit of circumstantial evidence says we’re not spending enough.

Also, you should look into using paragraphs now and again

 

[IowaHuskr]

It really seems that some of our fans just don’t want to accept that we might not be spending enough to be competitive. I know it’s easy to dig your heels in and say “I don’t believe it” when kids don’t have to disclose deals and actual numbers are hard to verify. But every damn bit of circumstantial evidence says we’re not spending enough.

Also, you should look into using paragraphs now and again

I never had enough Composition or English while a student at UNL. I was always dealing with numbers since I was a Finance major.
But I will try to work on it.

 

[V-Doub]

Robert Morris, who won their conference and made the NCAA tournament this year just lost their entire starting lineup to the portal. R.I.P. mid-major teams making a run in NCAA tournament, those days are gone. I expect a lot of chalk in future NCAA tournaments. I’m sure some 4-7 seed type teams from P5 conferences will break through and make a final 4 or elite 8, but the days of George Mason, Lloyal Chicago, Butler, Virginia Commonwealth and St. Peter’s making a run are over…

https://athlonsports.com/college-ba...robert-morris-starting-lineup-transfer-portal

 

[rgrachek]

It’s logic brother. I don’t have hard numbers cause players aren’t required to disclose NIL amounts. But I see far more volleyball girls doing adds and promotions. I see none for basketball. And lastly here’s the path of logic that leads me to that conclusion. (our donors over prioritize volleyball)

1. We know we spend A TON on football. Which is all fine and good. Just wish it worked and we were good. It’s the #1 revenue sport though and we should spend the most on football.

2. Basketball is the #2 revenue sport. We’re terrible and nobody can really say how our spending and NIL stacks up. Which isn’t a good sign, even if athletes don’t have to disclose, the fact we don’t hear any rumors about big contracts and we don’t see any basketball players in local commercials or promotions? Not a good sign. We had the league’s leading scorer and we have no idea if he made $100,000 this year or a six pack soda and a gift card to the Cheesecake Factory? Definitely wasn’t in any commercials.

3. We spend more than just anyone on volleyball. All our girls are in adds and have known or rumored NIL deals. Very lucrative deals from everything I’ve heard.

4. Most agree we need to spend more money to get better basketball players.

5. People keep telling we can’t afford to pay more NIL money for basketball because Nebraska’s donor pool just isn’t big enough.


So… if all of that is true. And we know the first 3 are for sure true, and the last two are likely true but difficult to prove numbers wise. But if all those points are true what is the most obvious conclusion? Why can’t we afford to pay more for quality basketball players? What is our smaller more limited pool of big donors doing differently than all these other “football schools” that have elite basketball programs?

The answer is blatantly obvious if you look at the situation objectively. Our donors spend too much on girls volleyball and not enough on basketball. And if we were spending enough on basketball the results would be there. You can’t make the NCAA tournament once every 10 years (that’s about our average) and say you’re doing enough. If those are your results you’re obviously not doing enough.

Edit: Sorry, I know that was long but I wanted to be thorough in why I have come to that conclusion.

We're coming to the point sadly where many long time big Husker fans, like me, are starting to question whether we even want to engage in this anymore past just enjoying all of the games on TV.

I'm not trying to disparage anything you said above and in the context of where things are now, you're spot on in many ways. The biggest problem is that this has become just too exhausting for many of the fans. For the past 3 years, we've essentially done what was patently illegal and disgraceful in the past, shoveling booster money to players to get them to come to your school. We did this under the fraudulent notion that it's NIL money, when in fact, except for some Ads using certain players, it's just laundered booster money. SMU was given the death penalty in the 80s for what is done openly at every school now.

Now the NCAA is making a feeble attempt at bringing some order to this by letting the schools directly pay athletes up to I believe $20.5 million a year for all sports combined and then somehow thinking that they can approve NIL deals before they can be accepted to make sure they're legitimate. Lets see how long that lasts before the first lawsuit comes out challenging a denial of a NIL deal. Then the NCAA will cave again and we'll have direct paying players and booster money laundering too!

The only way the NCAA could have avoided this is to stand by their extra benefit rules in court and fight it to the death, making the case that playing sports in college is elective and if you don't like the rules, you can choose not to participate and go straight to the pros. They then could tell the NBA and the NFL that they need to accept players out of high school at their discretion and create minor league systems for these players who can and want to be paid now, but the NCAA will not bring on pro players. They then could have argued that there is no collective bargaining agreement with the players in college sports no more so than there's a collective bargaining agreement with a graduate student in Engineering who works under a $10 million grant or payment from some business.

But the NCAA lawyers are 1) cowards, and 2) stocked with people who actually think the current **** show was a good idea.

Same with you, sorry this was long.

 

[V-Doub]

We're coming to the point sadly where many long time big Husker fans, like me, are starting to question whether we even want to engage in this anymore past just enjoying all of the games on TV.

I'm not trying to disparage anything you said above and in the context of where things are now, you're spot on in many ways. The biggest problem is that this has become just too exhausting for many of the fans. For the past 3 years, we've essentially done what was patently illegal and disgraceful in the past, shoveling booster money to players to get them to come to your school. We did this under the fraudulent notion that it's NIL money, when in fact, except for some Ads using certain players, it's just laundered booster money. SMU was given the death penalty in the 80s for what is done openly at every school now.

Now the NCAA is making a feeble attempt at bringing some order to this by letting the schools directly pay athletes up to I believe $20.5 million a year for all sports combined and then somehow thinking that they can approve NIL deals before they can be accepted to make sure they're legitimate. Lets see how long that lasts before the first lawsuit comes out challenging a denial of a NIL deal. Then the NCAA will cave again and we'll have direct paying players and booster money laundering too!

The only way the NCAA could have avoided this is to stand by their extra benefit rules in court and fight it to the death, making the case that playing sports in college is elective and if you don't like the rules, you can choose not to participate and go straight to the pros. They then could tell the NBA and the NFL that they need to accept players out of high school at their discretion and create minor league systems for these players who can and want to be paid now, but the NCAA will not bring on pro players. They then could have argued that there is no collective bargaining agreement with the players in college sports no more so than there's a collective bargaining agreement with a graduate student in Engineering who works under a $10 million grant or payment from some business.

But the NCAA lawyers are 1) cowards, and 2) stocked with people who actually think the current **** show was a good idea.

Same with you, sorry this was long.

Can’t disagree with much of that. I really hate the direction we’re going with college sports. Sports media won’t really criticize, some do a little but everyone is afraid to be labeled as being “against players getting what they deserve”.

I don’t disagree with players having the ability to make money. They’re greasing the wheels of capitalism and they (as legal adults) should be able to profit as well. But the execution of NIL has been a huge unmitigated disaster. The collateral effects (on college sports) of NIL and the portal are almost too many to count. NCAA was shortsighted, seemingly they didn’t think they would lose in court and were completely unprepared to roll this out. Everything happened (and is still happening) way too fast and there’s no state by state universal regulations/laws to regulate NIL.

Every industry has sensible regulations and NIL should be no different. Sometimes regulations can become punitive, but that’s when hope the courts and/or legislation will step in. You can’t have a nationwide industry (NIL) of competing sports teams where every state gets to have different rules. And now you have states with huge rabid fanbases, boosters and state legislators push bills and laws to give their state an NIL advantage over the surrounding states that they play every year.

The whole thing is fvcked from go.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Just read Indiana lost their entire team to the portal. Yikes.

 

[Redscarlet]

Just read Indiana lost their entire team to the portal. Yikes.

This is really getting out of control, it’s a shame that this is happening where you can lose the majority of your team.

 

[dinglefritz]

This is really getting out of control, it’s a shame that this is happening where you can lose the majority of your team.

On the other hand they fired their head coach. It’s probably only fair that the new coach has to re-recruit their roster.

 

[Redscarlet]

On the other hand they fired their head coach. It’s probably only fair that the new coach has to re-recruit their roster.

Not if every single player leaves that’s ludicrous…

 

[dinglefritz]

Not if every single player leaves that’s ludicrous…

Why does it matter how many leave? Maybe the new coach doesn’t want them either. IF the school cans the coach who recruited them IMO, it’s only fair that they ALL are able to assess their situation. One of Iowa’s portal entries has announced he’s coming back after being re-recruited by their new coach. IF we’re allowing unlimited transfers, there’s no logical reason to expect anybody to be loyal to their school.

 

[Spartanhusker]

IIRC, Mark Pope at Kentucky had NO remaining players....sadly, it can be done....

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Just read Indiana lost their entire team to the portal. Yikes.

Turn about fair play their football team gained the same way

 

[Big bo fan]

Just read Indiana lost their entire team to the portal. Yikes.

This is really getting out of control, it’s a shame that this is happening where you can lose the majority of your team.

Indiana also had a coaching change. That lead to the majority of their portals .

 

[TruHusker]

It’s logic brother. I don’t have hard numbers cause players aren’t required to disclose NIL amounts. But I see far more volleyball girls doing adds and promotions. I see none for basketball. And lastly here’s the path of logic that leads me to that conclusion. (our donors over prioritize volleyball)

1. We know we spend A TON on football. Which is all fine and good. Just wish it worked and we were good. It’s the #1 revenue sport though and we should spend the most on football.

2. Basketball is the #2 revenue sport. We’re terrible and nobody can really say how our spending and NIL stacks up. Which isn’t a good sign, even if athletes don’t have to disclose, the fact we don’t hear any rumors about big contracts and we don’t see any basketball players in local commercials or promotions? Not a good sign. We had the league’s leading scorer and we have no idea if he made $100,000 this year or a six pack soda and a gift card to the Cheesecake Factory? Definitely wasn’t in any commercials.

3. We spend more than just anyone on volleyball. All our girls are in adds and have known or rumored NIL deals. Very lucrative deals from everything I’ve heard.

4. Most agree we need to spend more money to get better basketball players.

5. People keep telling we can’t afford to pay more NIL money for basketball because Nebraska’s donor pool just isn’t big enough.


So… if all of that is true. And we know the first 3 are for sure true, and the last two are likely true but difficult to prove numbers wise. But if all those points are true what is the most obvious conclusion? Why can’t we afford to pay more for quality basketball players? What is our smaller more limited pool of big donors doing differently than all these other “football schools” that have elite basketball programs?

The answer is blatantly obvious if you look at the situation objectively. Our donors spend too much on girls volleyball and not enough on basketball. And if we were spending enough on basketball the results would be there. You can’t make the NCAA tournament once every 10 years (that’s about our average) and say you’re doing enough. If those are your results you’re obviously not doing enough.

Edit: Sorry, I know that was long but I wanted to be thorough in why I have come to that conclusion.

Since I do not live in The Motherland, I have no idea about athletes in commercials/ads, etc. This is where you lose me just a bit. On one hand its "we spend a TON on Football" which begs who the "we" is? Is that the University, collective or private donors/businesses? Then you have "we" again for the VB team and highlight our girls in ads. So I assume our VB players are being paid NIL through private businesses to hock their products and NOT by the University or collective? Then on #5 its "we can't afford to pay more NIL for basketball" which again begs the question who the "we" is?

If a business makes the decision to use VB players to make ads, but not basketball players, that's up to the business as far as I am concerned. If the majority of the NIL money is produced by private business, then that is their choice and the contract between them. Where does the University and collectives come into all of this? It seems that one can't blame the University for lack of NIL when, from all reports if true, a bulk of the money comes from private businesses?

So when we say, we need to up the amount of NIL for basketball players, I assume this means we need businesses to step up and pay players to do commercials or sell a product? Do we even know how much the University commits or the collective? It would seem that those numbers should be available. I get that basketball may not be getting the big bucks but the reality is we do not really know who is getting what do we?

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Since I do not live in The Motherland, I have no idea about athletes in commercials/ads, etc. This is where you lose me just a bit. On one hand its "we spend a TON on Football" which begs who the "we" is? Is that the University, collective or private donors/businesses? Then you have "we" again for the VB team and highlight our girls in ads. So I assume our VB players are being paid NIL through private businesses to hock their products and NOT by the University or collective? Then on #5 its "we can't afford to pay more NIL for basketball" which again begs the question who the "we" is?

If a business makes the decision to use VB players to make ads, but not basketball players, that's up to the business as far as I am concerned. If the majority of the NIL money is produced by private business, then that is their choice and the contract between them. Where does the University and collectives come into all of this? It seems that one can't blame the University for lack of NIL when, from all reports if true, a bulk of the money comes from private businesses?

So when we say, we need to up the amount of NIL for basketball players, I assume this means we need businesses to step up and pay players to do commercials or sell a product? Do we even know how much the University commits or the collective? It would seem that those numbers should be available. I get that basketball may not be getting the big bucks but the reality is we do not really know who is getting what do we?

I think you are correct here. Only a portion of the NIL is aligned with ads and appearances.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Since I do not live in The Motherland, I have no idea about athletes in commercials/ads, etc. This is where you lose me just a bit. On one hand its "we spend a TON on Football" which begs who the "we" is? Is that the University, collective or private donors/businesses? Then you have "we" again for the VB team and highlight our girls in ads. So I assume our VB players are being paid NIL through private businesses to hock their products and NOT by the University or collective? Then on #5 its "we can't afford to pay more NIL for basketball" which again begs the question who the "we" is?

If a business makes the decision to use VB players to make ads, but not basketball players, that's up to the business as far as I am concerned. If the majority of the NIL money is produced by private business, then that is their choice and the contract between them. Where does the University and collectives come into all of this? It seems that one can't blame the University for lack of NIL when, from all reports if true, a bulk of the money comes from private businesses?

So when we say, we need to up the amount of NIL for basketball players, I assume this means we need businesses to step up and pay players to do commercials or sell a product? Do we even know how much the University commits or the collective? It would seem that those numbers should be available. I get that basketball may not be getting the big bucks but the reality is we do not really know who is getting what do we?

A lot of posters drool how hawt our vb girls are on here and I know Britt prince from wbb is doing ads. Scheierman is doing ads for car dealership out of Aurora his home. Granted has nothing to do with nil but it could. Who would people expect to make ads to represent their business/products? Local successes, good looking successful vb players or our bb team. They're not the most photogenic and I cringe at some interviews

 

[V-Doub]

Since I do not live in The Motherland, I have no idea about athletes in commercials/ads, etc. This is where you lose me just a bit. On one hand its "we spend a TON on Football" which begs who the "we" is? Is that the University, collective or private donors/businesses? Then you have "we" again for the VB team and highlight our girls in ads. So I assume our VB players are being paid NIL through private businesses to hock their products and NOT by the University or collective? Then on #5 its "we can't afford to pay more NIL for basketball" which again begs the question who the "we" is?

If a business makes the decision to use VB players to make ads, but not basketball players, that's up to the business as far as I am concerned. If the majority of the NIL money is produced by private business, then that is their choice and the contract between them. Where does the University and collectives come into all of this? It seems that one can't blame the University for lack of NIL when, from all reports if true, a bulk of the money comes from private businesses?

So when we say, we need to up the amount of NIL for basketball players, I assume this means we need businesses to step up and pay players to do commercials or sell a product? Do we even know how much the University commits or the collective? It would seem that those numbers should be available. I get that basketball may not be getting the big bucks but the reality is we do not really know who is getting what do we?

1. Don’t think anyone wants to cut back on football spending. That’s agreed upon I think.

2. The “we” is donors and collectives. Donors with private businesses either cut a deal individually with a player or donors can give money to the collective to be distributed to the players. (likely earmarked for a sport but not necessarily)

3. And yes, my point is our donor base is and has been over prioritizing volleyball, money wise. But as you said that’s their choice I’m just voicing my opinion on the matter and I don’t think any sport accept football should be prioritized over men’s basketball.

4. Players are not required by law to disclose NIL amounts, some do, most don’t. But if you lived here is blatantly obvious our girls are getting more and better NIL deals than our basketball players.


I think that addressed all/most of the questions in your post.

 

[Redscarlet]

1. Don’t think anyone wants to cut back on football spending. That’s agreed upon I think.

2. The “we” is donors and collectives. Donors with private businesses either cut a deal individually with a player or donors can give money to the collective to be distributed to the players. (likely earmarked for a sport but not necessarily)

3. And yes, my point is our donor base is and has been over prioritizing volleyball, money wise. But as you said that’s their choice I’m just voicing my opinion on the matter and I don’t think any sport accept football should be prioritized over men’s basketball.

4. Players are not required by law to disclose NIL amounts, some do, most don’t. But if you lived here is blatantly obvious our girls are getting more and better NIL deals than our basketball players.


I think that addressed all/most of the questions in your post.

My money tax deduction goes toward the football program. Plenty of season ticket owners in volleyball more likely contribute their donation to the volleyball program than the any of the basketball programs..

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

The biggest difference between NIL and the advertisement type deals is that the ad deals do not always come thru the collective. Look at Livy Dunne, the gymnast from LSU. She accumulated millions in NIL deals that did not come thru the LSU collective.

As far as how these companies using their company advertising budgets to attract customers to their products, that is completely different animal to how they contribute to the collective. I am not going to hire someone who looks like Rosie O'Donnell to model my swimsuits, regardless of how good of a basketball player she may be.

 

[dinglefritz]

The biggest difference between NIL and the advertisement type deals is that the ad deals do not always come thru the collective. Look at Livy Dunne, the gymnast from LSU. She accumulated millions in NIL deals that did not come thru the LSU collective.

As far as how these companies using their company advertising budgets to attract customers to their products, that is completely different animal to how they contribute to the collective. I am not going to hire someone who looks like Rosie O'Donnell to model my swimsuits, regardless of how good of a basketball player she may be.

Yeah but you might hire her to promote your all you can eat buffet....

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Yeah but you might hire her to promote your all you can eat buffet....

I wouldn't. Rosie would make me upchuck the buffet

 

[Champs 70-71-94-95-97]

It's the whole chicken and egg situation.

Good players don't want to come here because we are terrible, but we can't get better until we get better players. Money is supposed to be the tipping point - which it appears we either don't have or won't spend.

I can't really take issue with the VB support - it's one of only 2 in the country that turn a profit. Plus, 92K fans ain't filling the stadium to watch men's basketball. Now is that backwards? Maybe, but you don't cut from a profitable program to fix a historically awful one without a serious strategy - and I don't think we have that.

 

[Dean Pope]

The biggest difference between NIL and the advertisement type deals is that the ad deals do not always come thru the collective. Look at Livy Dunne, the gymnast from LSU. She accumulated millions in NIL deals that did not come thru the LSU collective.

Livy Dunne makes her money from Instagram posts and TicToks. We're talking thousands for every post she makes. And yes, any other deals she has made has zero connections to LSU.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Livy Dunne makes her money from Instagram posts and TicToks. We're talking thousands for every post she makes. And yes, any other deals she has made has zero connections to LSU.

Very little of her money comes from LSU or the LSU supporters. That was the point. LSU fans aren't supporting gymnastics instead of football, as was insinuated that Nebraska boosters are paying volleyball players rather than supporting football players.

 

[dinglefritz]

Very little of her money comes from LSU or the LSU supporters. That was the point. LSU fans aren't supporting gymnastics instead of football, as was insinuated that Nebraska boosters are paying volleyball players rather than supporting football players.

A booster of substance buddy of mine told me in December that he was done giving money to football and would only donate to the volleyball team. This is a guy whose family in one year back in the 70s was giving over 250,000/year to the NU foundation. I know they've given a tremendous amount of money to the ag campus over the years and gifted a large chunk of ag land to NU a decade or so ago. Private box in East stadium etc. No more money for football he said and absolutely zero to football NIL. He was pissed about the extensions to Frost, Rhule's contract, South Stadium proposal, Hoiberg's extension etc.

 

[WHCSC]

A booster of substance buddy of mine told me in December that he was done giving money to football and would only donate to the volleyball team. This is a guy whose family in one year back in the 70s was giving over 250,000/year to the NU foundation. I know they've given a tremendous amount of money to the ag campus over the years and gifted a large chunk of ag land to NU a decade or so ago. Private box in East stadium etc. No more money for football he said and absolutely zero to football NIL. He was pissed about the extensions to Frost, Rhule's contract, South Stadium proposal, Hoiberg's extension etc.

“You suck so I’m going to stop giving you money so you can keep sucking”

 

[Harry Caray]

Does our volleyball team even need NIL money really? Our program has every advantage already, and I can't imagine many other schools spend money on NIL for volleyball.

 

[Walleye 1]

Does our volleyball team even need NIL money really? Our program has every advantage already, and I can't imagine many other schools spend money on NIL for volleyball.

Again you need to look at the source the money is coming from. I bet it’s a lot of wealthy older ladies that donate. I have been to a few games and they are everywhere. I would bet that a lot of those women pay little attention to football. Also if people haven’t seen a lot of volleyball players are marketing themselves. Lots of instagram videos. They are getting there name and face out there.

 

[goldencohusker]

“You suck so I’m going to stop giving you money so you can keep sucking”

Or, "I've given you a boat load of money to put to good use and you've failed so I'll find better uses for my mone"'

 

[dinglefritz]

“You suck so I’m going to stop giving you money so you can keep sucking”

Well, their family has given hundreds of thousands of dollars (millions over the years) and no doubt helped finance BC’s, Bo’s, and Frost’s buyouts. They owned a bank and still own multiple ranches, farms, feedlot, Vail condos, Scottsdale houses, lake home etc etc. Can’t blame them for giving up. It’s been almost 3 decades of constant begging for money. He was always too cheap to buy the beer in high school though. Great people. Cue Charlie’s response.

Or, "I've given you a boat load of money to put to good use and you've failed so I'll find better uses for my mone"'

Exactly.

 

[Tjlskers526]

So was Frankie Fidler (Michigan State), and Grant Nelson (Alabama), and Zeke Mayo (Kansas). So it's ridiculous to think the Summit League Player of the Year isn't good enough for our program.

Fidler and Nelson were never Summit league players of the year.. But your point stands

 

[Dean Pope]

I know they've given a tremendous amount of money to the ag campus over the years and gifted a large chunk of ag land to NU a decade or so ago. Private box in East stadium etc. No more money for football he said and absolutely zero to football NIL.

So they are donating money in a tangible manner so to speak. Their gifts will benefit a number of people for generations. As opposed to, metaphorically, NIL donations which is like going to the casino. Your donation will be provide immediate joy or be a total waste and in either case, the money doesn't last long.

 

[dinglefritz]

So they are donating money in a tangible manner so to speak. Their gifts will benefit a number of people for generations. As opposed to, metaphorically, NIL donations which is like going to the casino. Your donation will be provide immediate joy or be a total waste and in either case, the money doesn't last long.

In one year when my friend and I were in college they built a wellness center for our community with an indoor pool, running track, racquetball courts, weight room, etc. That same year they gave 250K to the NU Foundation. Deep deep pockets. Old money.

 

[Big bo fan]

Fidler and Nelson were never Summit league players of the year.. But your point stands

He was talking about Sutton from Oma this year as POY coming to Nebraska.

 

[Big bo fan]

Does our volleyball team even need NIL money really? Our program has every advantage already, and I can't imagine many other schools spend money on NIL for volleyball.

Harper Murray doesn’t drive the car she drives better family is loaded. The teams Nebraska goes against in recruiting for players all have Volleyball NIL.

 

[Tjlskers526]

He was talking about Sutton from Oma this year as POY coming to Nebraska.

Yea, I see that now... I thought your post said Baylor was a Summit League player of the year..

 

[Big bo fan]

Yea, I see that now... I thought your post said Baylor was a Summit League player of the year..

No some OP was popping about the two kids from Omaha in the portal and Fred not needing summit league players. I reminded the OP that Baylor was a summit league player.