Baseball Seating

[paindonthurt_]

So someone wants a ticket to the most prestigious and wanted event in MSU baseball each season.
BUT they don't want to or can't buy season tickets to secure this in demand ticket.
SO the university offers some standing room only spots for a reasonable price.
AND people find a reason to ***** and complain.

What would you say if you found out i sold my baseball tickets on first base side for say $45/game/ticket? Would you be ok with that?

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Cock Blocker Alert**

 

[GTAT]

I feel for the fans who come for Super Bulldog weekend and find themselves standing for the entire game

Standing with great views (or seated in the berms) as opposed packed into bleachers like sardines with a terrible view?

 

[patdog]

This is exactlty the wrong way to look at it. If you make it harder for people to come to games, not as many will come. The new stadium is beyond beautiful. But we built the grandstand about 1,000 seats too small. We could have had the beautiful stadium AND some grandstand seats available for single-game purchase. But Cohen has a bit of Templeton-mindedness to him when it comes to vision and finance.

 

[GTAT]

But we built the grandstand about 1,000 seats too small.

Can you prove this? I don't think you can. No other stadium builds these seats for walk up fans. I've asked drummerdawg to prove it too and the response is crickets.

The only feasible thing to do for known GA seating areas is bleachers, and we didn't really have the room for those.

For the 15th time, it is easy to get your hands on chairback tickets if you want them (outside of SBW and postseason play).

 

[ababyatemydingo]

The horror of standing at a sporting event for 3 hrs.
Outrageous I tell you.

Soft *** 17ers we have become.

My wife has a spinal cord disease that prevents her from standing for more than 5 minutes, and has had three major 8 hour spinal cord surgeries in two years. You want to fill her in on how soft she is? She loves MSU baseball, btw.

 

[GTAT]

My wife has a spinal cord disease that prevents her from standing for more than 5 minutes, and has had three major 8 hour spinal cord surgeries in two years. You want to fill her in on how soft she is? She loves MSU baseball, btw.

Sounds like you need to buy her a seat. What's with this passive shaming anyway? Are these things not known beforehand, but somehow this is now John Cohen's fault? Bizarro world.

 

[dickiedawg]

I think it would have been great to have Hoover-style GA seating behind the box seats or possibly on the second level.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Sounds like you need to buy her a seat. What's with this passive shaming anyway? Are these things not known beforehand, but somehow this is now John Cohen's fault? Bizarro world.

nice to see you back with another username, Clare Bare. same personality, though. When I'm spending about $7k a year on medical expenses, baseball season tickets and the donations that go with that are way down on my priority list. but, thanks for the concern, anyway

 

[paindonthurt_]

I’m sorry abt your wife. Truly.

But we aren’t building a baseball stadium on the exceptions to the rule. No one else is either.

Can you get her a wheel chair and a handicap pass? Seems like a good solution to me but I don’t know the details.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

That is outstanding!! I have got to have one of these!

Me too!

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Can you get her a wheel chair and a handicap pass? Seems like a good solution to me but I don’t know the details.

yeah, we looked into it. heard crickets. as long as she's moving, it's not too bad, so she isn't in a wheel chair. when she stands in one place is when the nerve pain gets too severe to handle. guess we could just continually walk the 360. lol

 

[paindonthurt_]

I bet if you show up with a ticket and folding chair you can get in.

Aren’t you allowed to use those for the grassy areas?

Walk some. Sit some.

Just a thought.

 

[GTAT]

nice to see you back with another username, Clare Bare. same personality, though. When I'm spending about $7k a year on medical expenses, baseball season tickets and the donations that go with that are way down on my priority list. but, thanks for the concern, anyway

If this is true, please explain why you are complaining, you likely aren't even going to go to a game. And if you do, for the 22nd time, YOU CAN GET CHAIRBACKS. I assume a guy like you, who is dealing with a lot of things, will be planning ahead a little bit. Call the ticket office, get you some chairbacks.

Don't throw back this "thanks for the concern" stuff on me, it won't work. It sucks about your wife but you are the one being self-serving in this thread.

 

[39762]

Let's wait until this becomes an actual issue before we call it "criminal." There will be grandstand seats available for nearly every single game.

 

[rynodawg]

What ticketexchange? We’ve had this debate on this board for years, and this is the first I’ve heard of one existing. I honestly want to know, I would likely only attend occasionally on non-SBW weekends.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

I understood his concern about no GA seating...and that it was hard to read. That's it.

I stay out of all attendance/seating discussions for I'm two states away.

 

[GTAT]

What ticketexchange? We’ve had this debate on this board for years, and this is the first I’ve heard of one existing. I honestly want to know, I would likely only attend occasionally on non-SBW weekends.

Call the ticket office, and they can do it for you if anyone has turned theirs in, in the weeks leading up to before the game. Stubhub also has some, Youngstown State is already on there.

The problem is, it's not automatic like TD Ameritrade's, which is what many fans want, but not feasible.

 

[MSUDC11]

Let's wait until this becomes an actual issue before we call it "criminal." There will be grandstand seats available for nearly every single game.

Yep. That’s the point that is being missed here I think.

 

[rynodawg]

Granted I’m not a software developer, but in the age of technology and smartphones, I don’t understand why a better exchange isn’t feasible. Give season ticket holders the option through an app of donating tickets back, with BC points if the tickets resell. Link it up with the MSU ticket office system and that would solve lots of complaints.

maybe seats will eventually show up on Stubhub, but right now that is only Berm GA, or standing room only for every game.

 

[MaroonBelle]

Bumping to address ticket availability with https://hailstate.com/news/2019/1/30/baseball-ticket-initiatives-announced.aspx

Announced today that there will be limited chairbacks available on a per game basis. Details in the link.

Also, for any who don't have chairbacks and are worried about standing room only (where folding chairs are not allowed) here is an idea...there are many variations of this available https://www.amazon.com/SitGo-Portab...d=1548866756&sr=8-1&keywords=telescoping+seat

 

[bulldogcountry1]

Before, there was maybe 4-5 games a year where there weren't a substantial amount of chairbacks available. I don't know why they didn't just sell a few hundred "non-reserved chairbacks" to walk-ups, given that they had to move if the actual seat holder asked. This season, I would be willing to see how things go and get a good sample size with the new stadium before I made any drastic changes. Just open the grandstand up after 3 innings.

If the problem persist and people aren't willing to give away unused tickets, just sell some non-reserved chairbacks for individual games.

 

[Mjoelner]

I'll take it a step further as far as software and technology go.

Since tickets are scanned when you walk through the gate at football, basketball and baseball, there is a record of that ticket being used. If you are a season ticket holder of lower bowl football between the 30's, lower bowl basketball or grandstand seating in baseball, there should be a minimum percentage of events where your ticket should be used or available on the MSU ticket office website or you lose your ticket privilages and have to get back in line. No. I do not know what that percentage should be but I'm sure a reasonable number could be determined. Of course that number would be different for each sport due to demand and the number of home games.

Scenario 1: Person A has bought 2 grandstand season tickets for baseball. Person A lives on the gulf coast and only attends SBW and 1 other SEC series. The remainder of the season, his two seats are empty because Person A has his un-used tickets on his dresser at home. He never gave them to a friend who wanted them or sent them back to the MSU ticket office. Person A just lost his privilage of holding those seats next year and must get back in line to re-order tickets and hope he gets some.

Scenario 2: Person B has bought 2 grandstand season tickets for baseball. Person B lives on the gulf coast and only attends SBW and 1 other SEC series. For the other weekend series and mid-week games, Person B cannot find anyone who wants his tickets so he places his tickets on the MSU ticket office exchange. Whether the tickets re-sell or not, Person B retains the right to those 2 season tickets next year because he made his unused spots available since he knew he was not going to make the games.

Don't be Person A.

ETA: You could also add this feature. Due to a business rescheduling, Person B realizes on Thursday that he will be able to make the SEC series starting tommorrow but, he turned his tickets into the exchange a month ago. He calls the ticket office only to find that his two particular tickets have already sold but, he is able to get two other tickets in a different location free of charge since he is a season ticket holder and, since he is a season ticket holder, he holds prioity over getting those tickets over walk-up buyers.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

i like it, but I doubt they do it. They don't want to piss off season ticket holders that give them money. they would rather have the $$ than the person in the seat.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Guess I need a folding cane seat, for the SRO.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002VWJYT8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lR4tCbXABTB8W

My mom got one before this past football season. The only way she made it.

 

[rynodawg]

That’s a good idea as well. If I was a baseball season ticket holder, I’d have zero issues with complying with that. Key is making the exchange system as easy as possible.

Only issue might be with businesses who buy seats, give the tickets away to clients, and don’t really track if they are used or not, because it’s written off as a business expense.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Standing with great views (or seated in the berms) as opposed packed into bleachers like sardines with a terrible view?

It's clear that you don't (and never will) agree. So you can just stop making yourself look silly.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Can you prove this? I don't think you can. No other stadium builds these seats for walk up fans. I've asked drummerdawg to prove it too and the response is crickets.

The only feasible thing to do for known GA seating areas is bleachers, and we didn't really have the room for those.

For the 15th time, it is easy to get your hands on chairback tickets if you want them (outside of SBW and postseason play).

Can you prove that not having enough GA seating available won't keep a certain number of fans from coming to the game? It's going to be an issue to some people whether you think it will or not. Clearly, you are in the minority here, but you always are anyway.

 

[kired]

They do have a "scan rewards" in place for basketball... not sure about baseball. Wish they'd have something similar for football.

This one goes for men's or women's BB ticket holders.

2018-19 SCAN REWARDS:
50% SCANS: Entered to Win 2 Tickets to the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament
75% SCANS: 1 Bulldog Club Point + Shoot-Around in the Hump and Men's Basketball Locker Room Tour
90% SCANS: 1 Bulldog Club Point (2 Total) + Invitation to Attend Post-Season Team Social

 

[GTAT]

Can you prove that not having enough GA seating available won't keep a certain number of fans from coming to the game? It's going to be an issue to some people whether you think it will or not.

The university (and every other stadium) agree with me. You and some other entitled fans are the minority. You don't build stadiums based on people like you, they cost too much money.

I've asked for links to other stadiums (twice, with two different posters), no one will provide it. My point is common sense, I don't need to prove anything, it's the prevailing wisdom...well, everywhere. A few of our most entitled fans don't change that.

Clearly, you are in the minority here, but you always are anyway.

The reverse shaming will not work. Hahaha when I prove you wrong it's "OMG gOaTzzz baNSS him modz PLEASE"

I will continue to fight the good fight. It does provide an entertainment value to see how wrong some of our entitled fans can be. I get it though, it's just an emotional outrage based on other things I guess.

 

[GTAT]

Bumping to address ticket availability with https://hailstate.com/news/2019/1/30/baseball-ticket-initiatives-announced.aspx

Announced today that there will be limited chairbacks available on a per game basis. Details in the link.

Also, for any who don't have chairbacks and are worried about standing room only (where folding chairs are not allowed) here is an idea...there are many variations of this available https://www.amazon.com/SitGo-Portab...d=1548866756&sr=8-1&keywords=telescoping+seat

Boom.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

don't really knowing what you are "booming" about. it says limited could be available for some games. it doesn't mean there are. it's up to the season ticket holders to turn their tickets in if they aren't using them. In the past, there were a lot of games I did this and got nothing. They still should have expanded the seating by a lot more if they sold out for 33 years. i get it though you just want to beat your chest for nothing that you did of importance. carry on though CB, Goat, whatever your name is.

 

[GTAT]

don't really knowing what you are "booming" about. it says limited could be available for some games. it doesn't mean there are. it's up to the season ticket holders to turn their tickets in if they aren't using them. In the past, there were a lot of games I did this and got nothing. They still should have expanded the seating by a lot more if they sold out for 33 years. i get it though you just want to beat your chest for nothing that you did of importance. carry on though CB, Goat, whatever your name is.

It's still amazing to me that you think that I'm the bad guy here. Truly unbelievable. A lot of people have made the baseball fanbase what it is over the years, and you want to be the benefactor of it all without doing anything. What you don't understand is that you truly have to show a real demand for those seats, on paper, to the administration. Bitching on a message board doesn't get it done.

Seriously, I'm just trying to help your cause. I'd love to see a dedicated general admission area, I'm just not sure it's really needed at this point. We have a lot of room to accommodate the people who used to sit in the bleachers, with seemingly better views. So you are getting exactly what you pay for, and actually much more, due to the financial support of many others.

Real talk.

 

[CoolDawg]

Those of you that are complaining about not having seats in the new stadium had the same opportunity as everyone else did to purchase seats in it. Therefore, quit whining because the university didn't build additional seats for you so that you could show up for a few games a year and have the same type seats as those of us that paid a premium price to have them. I have no doubt that had there been a demand that far exceeded the supply of seats, the university would have added additional seats to the stadium.

 

[paindonthurt_]

It really is crazy. Now I could see the argument that the university could have offered a cheaper option for season tickets, but you still should have to buy season tickets if you want to be guaranteed a ticket to a game. That’s if demand dictates selling out tickets which it does at the moment.

 

[patdog]

I have no doubt that had there been a demand that far exceeded the supply of seats, the university would have added additional seats to the stadium.

The fact they're sold out for the 33rd straight year is direct evidence that you're wrong about that. It's kind of stupid and short-sighted to build the stadium artificially smaller than the demand that exists. You're turning away paying customers that way.

Those of you that are complaining about not having seats in the new stadium had the same opportunity as everyone else did to purchase seats in it. Therefore, quit whining because the university didn't build additional seats for you so that you could show up for a few games a year and have the same type seats as those of us that paid a premium price to have them.​

Actually, no, we didn't. At least not without depriving someone who did purchase season tickets of the opportunity to do so.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Selling out of season tickets yearly is such an awful thing.

Are you simply saying it needed to be bigger or it needed general admission seating?

 

[GTAT]

The fact they're sold out for the 33rd straight year is direct evidence that you're wrong about that. It's kind of stupid and short-sighted to build the stadium artificially smaller than the demand that exists. You're turning away paying customers that way.

Actually, no, we didn't. At least not without depriving someone who did purchase season tickets of the opportunity to do so.

No. You are wrong.

First of all, our fanbase was slack when we first started selling season tickets. They sized the stadium a little bigger than what was sold, then we had a rash of new sales after that. Even still, you CANNOT build stadiums based on SIGNIFICANT fake or assumed demand. They added a reasonable amount, then sold them too. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the fair weather folks who jacked up the numbers when they saw how awesome the stadium was going to be (in addition to the team beginning to win).

One bad season comes along, and all you GA lovers are going to disappear (except for SBW of course).

Then you say you didn't have a chance to purchase season tickets without depriving someone else. That's a flat out lie.

 

[patdog]

It is for the people who might want to buy tickets and sit in the grandstand. The grandstand needed to be built bigger, which I said from the very beginning. It makes no sense at all to exclude fans who would like to be able to pay for a ticket and have a place to sit. Obviously, you don't build a 16,000 seat grandstand to accomodate every single person who might ever want to attend a game. But limiting it to fewer than your annual season ticket sales is too small. Otherwise, it's a beautiful stadium. But I'm going to be less likely to go unless I luck out on Tuesday morning or find tickets at a decent price on StubHub.

 

[patdog]

They added a reasonable amount, then sold them too.

They obviously didn't add a realistic amount.

Then you say you didn't have a chance to purchase season tickets without depriving someone else. That's a flat out lie. ​

The fact they sold out of grandstand seats before the first game has even been played proves that is a fact. If I had bought a season ticket, someone else who did buy one wouldn't have been able to.