We should have taken Darnold. Not impressed by Gettleman.
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Not great to follow "stupid" with "should have went."We don't need him. Stupid pick by my Giants. Should have went for a QB or a lineman. He's not Walter Payton or Ray Rice.
Will NY Giants fans cheer on this Rutgers hater/Pedo U attendee?
****** HC...not the greatest OL coach of all time but, a pretty damn good OL coach...Don’t you know flood was the greatest offensive line coach ever?
You said it....Typical Penn State alum response. Every single one of them believes they have a Harvard degree.
What does "regarded better politically" mean?Say what you want but psu is regarded better academically and politically. sad because psu was a well known safety school in the 80s and 90s for nj kids
They are ranked a little higher than RU on USNWR but other ranking agencies differ. But SB comments on Maryland are idiotic. I also don't understand what you mean by politically.Say what you want but psu is regarded better academically and politically. sad because psu was a well known safety school in the 80s and 90s for nj kids
PSU (main campus) is regarded better than RU academically in some areas, there is no arguing that fact. RU is more highly regarded in some areas as well. What does politically mean?Say what you want but psu is regarded better academically and politically. sad because psu was a well known safety school in the 80s and 90s for nj kids
Sorry, Eli's big problem last year was running for his life due to poor protection. I was not overly impressed with SB. He was one of the top RBs in the B1G but I would not say the best.Not great to follow "stupid" with "should have went."
How do you know he's not Walter Payton or Ray Rice (with Jimmy Brown and Gayle Sayers, my three favorite RBs of all time)?
I, too, would have preferred Darnold as their pick, but a lineman? This old lineman would have thrown a shoe at the TV if they had went for a lineman.
Lets forget the fans/alumni etc at PSU. Some of those societal issues go beyond the campus at State College. It is the disregard for safety and decency that the PSU administration displayed with regards to Paterno and the football program as a whole. If this had happened at RU they would have shut the football program down for five years at least.PSU (main campus) is regarded better than RU academically in some areas, there is no arguing that fact. RU is more highly regarded in some areas as well. What does politically mean?
As for the pedophile nonsense, nobody, and I mean nobody cares about that anymore except on this board, that is a dead issue. Hate to say it, but a previous Penn State poster was correct, to be non hypocritical and consistent, I assume that every Catholic on this site who supports Rutgers no longer supports the Church, attends mass, or allows any immediate member of his family to attend mass, and if they do he/she will disown them. Because that is what I have heard from some posters, that if one of their children decided to attend PSU they would no longer financially support them and disown them. Can't have it both ways, the amount of sexual abuse of children within the Catholic church is far worse and more pervasive throughout the world than the what took place at PSU, and the response by the Church has been just as lame. And one other note, we all know that the abuse continues at some level in the Church, so how you could possible support that institution is beyond comprehension if you are a righteous and decent individual.
I agree, I have no empathy or sympathy for PSU fans or the institution itself, but just stating a fact that people have moved on just like Catholics move on from the mountain of child sexual abuse that has occurred within the Church. People rationalize and compartmentalize those actions and continue to support the Church. There are plenty of other forums to worship Christ, but people stick to an institution that has looked the other way countless times at child abuse and has actively protected those who have committed these atrocious crimes.Lets forget the fans/alumni etc at PSU. Some of those societal issues go beyond the campus at State College. It is the disregard for safety and decency that the PSU administration displayed with regards to Paterno and the football program as a whole. If this had happened at RU they would have shut the football program down for five years at least.
Also went to a school that had covered up a pedophile.
I feel for the older alumni but would never hire someone who went there after what happened to those children. I just shows poor judgement and support for an organization that placed athletics over the welfare of children .
You should be very insulted by his comments. Maryland is a very good school academically and is statistically better than PSU. If he didn't want to go to UMD or RU cause of the football program or he just liked the campus at PSU better that's fine. But he is denigrating the academic reputation of RU/UMD by his statements. He is making it out that if he had gone to RU/UMD instead of PSU he'd be in worse shape to get a job in a field other than playing in the NFL. That is simply not true. I'd like to know if those are his true feelings or if they were fed to him. Either way he owes an apology to our Institutions and alumni. As a Giants fan I am rooting for the other running backs on the roster.As a Maryland fan, his comment didn't bother me or make me think he's a dummy. I can only imagine how goofy I'd have sounded had I been interviewed all the time at that young age (and now, really).
Although I don't see it that way, there are many people out there who think that in terms of academics, Penn State>(Rutgers or Maryland). He's not an outlier on that topic.
Good luck to Saquon, glad our teams don't have to try to tackle him anymore!
The facts are that recent graduates from all three schools are doing quite well. But young Mr. Barkley does not recognize this.My daughter had no issues getting a job after graduating from PSU ( actually she had four offers prior to graduating).
Saquon's Parting Jab at Big Ten Powerhouse Rutgers (and Maryland)
By jcross9 on May 1, 2018, 11:14am EDT 13
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Recently, the newly drafted Saquon Barkley appeared on NY sports radio, doing an interview with a local radio host (and erstwhile voice of Buttgers football). Naturally, the host was giving Saquon some grief about decommiting from rutger. Why, he asked, would you do such a thing?
Like usual, Saquon began his response in a gracious manner, thanking Rutgers for offering him on potential alone--basically on solely JV film. But according to Saquon, the offer from Penn State was simply too much to pass on (although perhaps not for the reason you'd think). Take a look:
"The reason why I left, no disrespect to Rutgers University, being a PA guy living and raised in Pennsylvania that Penn State’s longevity was going to help me," Barkley said. "I wasn’t just looking at the NFL. I predicted and hoped to be in this situation, but say if it didn’t go that way, I felt like a degree from Penn State University separated myself if I went to, say, a school like Rutgers or a school like Maryland. It’s no offense to those schools at all, but it’s just two different schools. Penn State is a well-known, prestigious school. At that young age, I made a very tough but educated decision."
Masterful troll job, Saquon, Masterful. He could have made the easy argument that we have more football history, etc. BUT, he did two things that were far better. First, he reminded the NYC media market that PSU is better academically, and second, he perpetuated the hilarious conflation of Marygers--while also throwing Maryland (who may or may not have even recruited him--I can't recall) under the bus for basically no reason at all.
Saquon is a treasure to us Nittany Lions, and I look forward to hearing and seeing more of him for years to come.
My daughter had no issues getting a job after graduating from PSU ( actually she had four offers prior to graduating).
PSU is a better football program duh.
However, Franklin convinced him to go to PSU, and he wanted to major in journalism. I don't know Maryland recruited him, but Maryland is a top 10 Journalism school in country. He ended up majoring in "under graduate studies" Good thing that NFL thing worked out, because Franklin totally screwed up on that education.
PSU (main campus) is regarded better than RU academically in some areas, there is no arguing that fact. RU is more highly regarded in some areas as well. What does politically mean?
As for the pedophile nonsense, nobody, and I mean nobody cares about that anymore except on this board, that is a dead issue. Hate to say it, but a previous Penn State poster was correct, to be non hypocritical and consistent, I assume that every Catholic on this site who supports Rutgers no longer supports the Church, attends mass, or allows any immediate member of his family to attend mass, and if they do he/she will disown them. Because that is what I have heard from some posters, that if one of their children decided to attend PSU they would no longer financially support them and disown them. Can't have it both ways, the amount of sexual abuse of children within the Catholic church is far worse and more pervasive throughout the world than the what took place at PSU, and the response by the Church has been just as lame. And one other note, we all know that the abuse continues at some level in the Church, so how you could possible support that institution is beyond comprehension if you are a righteous and decent individual.
To begin with the Catholic Church is not a faith, it is an institution as you stated. Christianity is a faith and there are plenty of avenues other than the Catholic Church to express your faith in Jesus Christ and his teachings. Now, excuse me, so the fact that the Catholic Church has been an institution of influence for a very long time gives it a free pass to look the other way, actively conceal individuals, and thwart investigations into tens of thousands of cases of Church personnel raping and abusing children? While at the same time you condemn a state institution who looked the other way and protected one individual who raped and abused multiple children? Again, how does the Catholic Church get a free pass? It is the essence and definition of hypocrisy,You are dead wrong. Read any story on Penn State in national papers, ESPN, etc. Many of them have pedophile comments. They will never live that reputation down.
And your analogy/comparison to the Catholic church is way, way, way off base. PSU football, like any football team is a sports franchise. Penn State sold its soul under the guise of "success with honor," and allowed a pedophile who was observed multiple times doing inappropriate and/or criminal acts to young boys so that their beloved football program would not be impacted.
The Catholic church, on the other hand, is a religious institution that one of the oldest religious institutions in the world, it has played a prominent role in the history and development of western civilization. There is absolutely no comparison to a silly football team. Do you want people to renounce their religious faith?
Yes, there are similarities in the behavior, and the Catholic Church had a more widespread (perhaps "institutional") problem that was ignored for years. But at it's base, the Catholic Church is an enormous foundation of Christian faith that recognizes all humans are sinners and they can seek forgiveness. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that so many Catholics did not renounce their Church and/or faith (I understand the difference) when the scandal broke.To begin with the Catholic Church is not a faith, it is an institution as you stated. Christianity is a faith and there are plenty of avenues other than the Catholic Church to express your faith in Jesus Christ and his teachings. Now, excuse me, so the fact that the Catholic Church has been an institution of influence for a very long time gives it a free pass to look the other way, actively conceal individuals, and thwart investigations into tens of thousands of cases of Church personnel raping and abusing children? While at the same time you condemn a state institution who looked the other way and protected one individual who raped and abused multiple children? Again, how does the Catholic Church get a free pass? It is the essence and definition of hypocrisy,
You are dead wrong. Read any story on Penn State in national papers, ESPN, etc. Many of them have pedophile comments. They will never live that reputation down
Everything you are saying in defense of the Catholic Church is the reason why the Catholic Church's actions are a far greater injustice and crime against humanity. This is an institution that people put their faith and their families in, poor people donate the little they have to seek salvation through the supposed representatives of Christ within the Church who then turn around and betray this ultimate trust and sexually abuse their children. When abuse is first alleged all to often the Church's first reaction is to deny any wrong doing and then go about proactively covering it up to protect not the people it pretends to serve but the sexual predictors it employs under the cloak of Jesus Christ. What happened at Penn State was a criminal travesty and that institution should also be held accountable, but to condemn one and defend the other is hypocrisy. Again, you do not need to be a Catholic to follow Christ, to choose to continue to support an institution that has and still does protect sexual predators is unconscionable if you truly believe what you say about people who still support Penn State.Yes, there are similarities in the behavior, and the Catholic Church had a more widespread (perhaps "institutional") problem that was ignored for years. But at it's base, the Catholic Church is an enormous foundation of Christian faith that recognizes all humans are sinners and they can seek forgiveness. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that so many Catholics did not renounce their Church and/or faith (I understand the difference) when the scandal broke.
What does a college football team represent that is on par with a major Church. Yes, some of the cult worshipers put their beloved football team uber alles, but please indicate how a football team equates to a Church.
Not defending the Catholic Church at all, but not seeing how one can chastise Catholics for not renouncing their Church/faith when it is quite easy to toss aside loyalty to a stupid football team.
Why are you telling other people how to worship? Tell that to the millions of Roman Catholics throughout the world. Are you an atheist or agnostic? Or do you not believe in forgiveness? It has been a long time since I thought about it/studied, but wasn't Jesus Christ the only human free from sin? All other humans are sinners seeking God's forgiveness--isn't this one of the tenets of the Catholic Church? I am asking, because I don't know and I don't care. I renounced Catholicism some time around the scandal.Everything you are saying in defense of the Catholic Church is the reason why the Catholic Church's actions are a far greater injustice and crime against humanity. This is an institution that people put their faith and their families in, poor people donate the little they have to seek salvation through the supposed representatives of Christ within the Church who then turn around and betray this ultimate trust and sexually abuse their children. When abuse is first alleged all to often the Church's first reaction is to deny any wrong doing and then go about proactively covering it up to protect not the people it pretends to serve but the sexual predictors it employs under the cloak of Jesus Christ. What happened at Penn State was a criminal travesty and that institution should also be held accountable, but to condemn one and defend the other is hypocrisy. Again, you do not need to be a Catholic to follow Christ, to choose to continue to support an institution that has and still does protect sexual predators is unconscionable if you truly believe what you say about people who still support Penn State.
For certain Eli's protection wasn't great last year. But nobody in their right mind picks an offensive guard with the #2 pick in the NFL draft.Sorry, Eli's big problem last year was running for his life due to poor protection. I was not overly impressed with SB. He was one of the top RBs in the B1G but I would not say the best.
I don't care how people worship, that is their choice, but by defending the Catholic Church you are defending an institution, not a religion, that has actively covered up countless child abuses cases engaged in by their Priests and other employees throughout the world. If you believe in forgiveness then practice it by forgiving those connected to Penn State, again don't be hypocritical, judgmental, or selective in your forgiveness. You cannot condemn those who still support Penn State the institution and call it Ped U etc., and not condemn those who still support the Catholic Church. Condemn or forgive those who support the Catholic Church and those who support Penn State, but not one or the other.Why are you telling other people how to worship? Tell that to the millions of Roman Catholics throughout the world. Are you an atheist or agnostic? Or do you not believe in forgiveness? It has been a long time since I thought about it/studied, but wasn't Jesus Christ the only human free from sin? All other humans are sinners seeking God's forgiveness--isn't this one of the tenets of the Catholic Church? I am asking, because I don't know and I don't care. I renounced Catholicism some time around the scandal.
Funny how you think I am defending the Catholic Church. Never did such a thing. Just said that a stupid football team and a major religion church were not comparable--which is different than the scandals being similar.