Barchi strikes again

[RUMBA-JK]

The article seems awfully speculative (& rooted in outdated thinking) on how Hurley and others might possibly be thinking - no doubt that the Barchi of 11 month to 3 years ago was a presence that was not inviting - but things have unarguably distinctly changed - there are tangible steps being taken to move things forward toward better results and better programs

- pretty clear that Barchi has said "OK, now let's start being smart ..." he didn't say 'let's go crazy' and he didn't say 'spend all the money we got' and he certainly did not say "OK, let's ignore any NCAA rules that get in the way ..." But he clearly has moved the focus to making smart, sound, success oriented decisions aimed at producing high quality results .... Hobbs is one example, the move to a totally different approach with Football is another example, have to figure that when Hobbs speaks with a prospect - he is able to outline a range of changes that are in the works.
If Hurley sits down with Hobbs, and Hobbs makes a pitch with all the plans & commitments - and Hobbs speaks to the new direction and focus - and puts an exceedingly attractive package on the table
....... and then.....
Hurley starts some song and dance about getting a feeling in his bones that (based upon old media impressions of 11 month to 3 years ago) Barchi's full commitment is not convincing enough - regardless of the actions of late November to now. Then it is clear that there probably isn't a scenario that would get Hurley to make a move .... and Hobbs should move on ...
If this is the case - then somehow it sort of begins to smell like Hurley wants to be at a school where Basketball is THE premier sport and he is 'the man'. That is his prerogative, it is his career, his life.... and he can do that and prosper - and probably fight fewer battles and have fewer headaches.

When you think about it , it really is going to take some pretty ballsy guy to come in here & agree to take on this challenge - yes it is a B1G program & if you can turn this around, you will be on top of the heap - and you will walk on water - but the amount of heavy lifting that needs to be done is monumental and of a longer duration than normal.

 

[Raritan83]

Okay thanks and if so then he can take a hike.

It is in the Zags article.

Rutgers is offering Hurley in the neighborhood of $2 million annually for six years, a significant bump from his current salary at Rhode Island. Hurley will make a guaranteed $1 million per season by 2017-18 at Rhode Island, a raise from his 2014-15 salary of $630,000.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Here's my shovel date.

Danny..we offered you $2mm for 6 years on a hope you can do something you haven't even done at URI yet.

Give us an answer in 24hours or "Shove" it... kay:

 

[RU85inFla]

Its just awfully sad that there aren't enough alumni to get Hobbs the cash he need to build the facility. I am pretty sure that with the state tax credits as well as the money from prior regimes Hobbs stated they were "close" early in his tenure which some believed to be about $10 million away. If this is true it is sad that we don't have folks stepping up at times like this to have the facility get in the way of hiring the best coach. If not true, that its even sadder.

Kinda hard to blame Barchi in my opinion.

 

[RBS05]

Its just awfully sad that there aren't enough alumni to get Hobbs the cash he need to build the facility. I am pretty sure that with the state tax credits as well as the money from prior regimes Hobbs stated they were "close" early in his tenure which some believed to be about $10 million away. If this is true it is sad that we don't have folks stepping up at times like this to have the facility get in the way of hiring the best coach. If not true, that its even sadder.

Kinda hard to blame Barchi in my opinion.

You think they are/were $10MM from being fully funded (at the $100MM or so price tag), or $10MM from the point where they'd be able to break ground?

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Guys

Hurley is entitled to sleep on it for a day. It is a big decision for him ...let's face it,
It is a big risk for him too.

A little patience here

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I still can't believe I'm seeing "$2M/year" for Danny Hurley my Lord he better take us to the NCAA's by Year 3 at that cost. You'd THINK he'd rather load it up with incentives and have more, upfront, for his staff, but I guess not. Wow. SMH.

 

[bac2therac]

He can bring some URI recruits with him

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Really liked the sense of urgency that Hobbs indicated that Ash exhibited from the get-go ... but so much of that all happened out of the spotlight.

.... whether it is true or not, in this case as it is played out on center stage - it is coming across like Hurley is dithering ... is posturing and just isn't seeming like a guy who is read to go "ALL IN"

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

I get it, you guys love Hurley. Is he better than Williams, perhaps, but not that much better. Not enough better to take Rutgers hostage. Roll the Dice with Williams. I like his connections with Coach K, and his overall intelligence and demeanor.

 

[RUBigFrank]

wow been away from the board just a little after lunch and this thread appears at a length of three pages. I have always been a critic of Barchi - and believe that he has ultimately been the problem - specific to RU athletics. I will say this - IT APPEARS that he has delegated athletic responsibility and autonomy to Hobbs, however the APP article has merit in stating that any candidate would and should be concerned.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

I still can't believe I'm seeing "$2M/year" for Danny Hurley my Lord he better take us to the NCAA's by Year 3 at that cost. You'd THINK he'd rather load it up with incentives and have more, upfront, for his staff, but I guess not. Wow. SMH.

You didn't think it was going to be cheap did you. This is why Williams is the better choice.

You could incentivize his contract, and start him at 1.3-1.5 million per. Leaving plenty of room to hire a new Women's lacrosse Coach, lol.

 

[RU85inFla]

You think they are/were $10MM from being fully funded (at the $100MM or so price tag), or $10MM from the point where they'd be able to break ground?

Neither. $10 million away from the $45 or so for the basketball facility. I believe the total is $45 million less $25 million in tax credits leaves $20 million. Pernetti and Hermann have been raising monies for this for 4 years now. If they raised $10 million then there should be $10 million on Hobbs plate.

Pretty simple math and sad that we don't have it. I was not there but It was reported that he said they needed about $10 million I believe.

 

[RU-ROCS]

I would milk it too if I were him. RU is in a position of weakness, so much so they are going to hire jay williams. Hurley is leaving a team on the cusp of a NCAA bid, many national media guys think he would be crazy to go to this job.

What makes you think the Williams interview was anything more than a courtesy to curry favor with ESPN? Please cite your source that Hobbs is going to hire Williams. Otherwise, enough with the hysteria and let's see what Hobbs can do.

 

[Rutgers8086_rivals]

I dont understand this.

Every school in the country has built basketball practice facilities with donor money. EVERY SINGLE ONE. If Rutgers can't pull it together thru three AD's and three Presidents someone will need to explain to me the "It's Barchi's fault" logic.

The singular commitment to football certainly goes back long before Barchi, no?

And the reason we can't raise enough money for a basketball practice facility?

Even USF
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...1l8IMHyxh5O4KGPDA&sig2=61GZo-hot3lGGZuj2d7tqQ

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

Well it is what it is.

 

[Mikemarc]

What makes you think the Williams interview was anything more than a courtesy to curry favor with ESPN? Please cite your source that Hobbs is going to hire Williams. Otherwise, enough with the hysteria and let's see what Hobbs can do.

What does ESPN have anything to do with it? How would us interviewing him effect ESPN in any way?

According to Zagoria, it was not a formal interview..whatever that means, I don't know. But it doesn't sound like he's a real candidate at this time.

 

[ru66]

i'll ask again has EVERYONE given to the build fund???

 

[AreYouNUTS]

i'll ask again has EVERYONE given to the build fund???

...and nobody has to answer your question. Ever. No matter how many times you repeat yourself.

 

[RUsojo]

This is laughable. It's clear Hurley doesn't want the job.

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

What does ESPN have anything to do with it? How would us interviewing him effect ESPN in any way?

According to Zagoria, it was not a formal interview..whatever that means, I don't know. But it doesn't sound like he's a real candidate at this time.

Hobbs was wowed by Williams.

 

[Mikemarc]

Hobbs was wowed by Williams.

Well that's good.

 

[MoobyCow]

Danny Hurley isn't worth anywhere near $2M/yr. That's absurd if accurate. In 6 years he's never taken a team to the tourney. His brother got $1.2M/yr at ASU after taking Buffalo to the tourney. Cronin makes $2.2M/yr at Cincy & just got that last year, but he's taken a team to the tourney 7 times. Hurley is worth $1.5M/yr, maybe.

Probably true. Hell, he's likely worth less than that, but this place is a career killer. When you run the worst program in the country you have to pay a pretty big premium to get anyone who is willing to come work for you. It is what it is, this is where you find yourself when you F up for a couple of decades in row.

 

[DHajekRC84]

i'll ask again has EVERYONE given to the build fund???

I did. The day Jordan was fired. With a company match. Biggest single donation I have ever made. (not that it would compare to what others have I'm sure but enough for a bunch of shovels, rakes, cement blocks, and some mortar ). Something. And more to come if we continue to act like a real program.

and that's just me. Not posting it to do anything but respond to your email. To each his/her own.

 

[SkilletHead2]

Looks to me like Team Hurley is playing us through Carino and Zags. Actually, looks like it's been that way since EJ was fired. Barchi's the problem now? Who was president last week? Who was president the last four years? Has Team Hurley just now figured out who the head of the University is?

This really does not inspire confidence in a Hurley hire. I have no trouble with him negotiating hard; in fact, I think it's great that he would do so. Trashing the president in the press as part of that strategy is garbage.

 

[ruman]

Looks to me like Team Hurley is playing us through Carino and Zags. Actually, looks like it's been that way since EJ was fired. Barchi's the problem now? Who was president last week? Who was president the last four years? Has Team Hurley just now figured out who the head of the University is?

This really does not inspire confidence in a Hurley hire. I have no trouble with him negotiating hard; in fact, I think it's great that he would do so. Trashing the president in the press as part of that strategy is garbage.

If he gets an extension, this is right. But why go thru this if you don't want the job

 

[MidwestKnights]

I just upped my (modest) donation to the R BIG Build Fund. Who's in? Let's view this negative perception as a challenge!

 

[SkilletHead2]

If he gets an extension, this is right. But why go thru this if you don't want the job

My guess is that he is "going through" very little; his agent is going through a lot (perhaps), but that is what Hurley hires him for. If he gets an extension and a bump out of this, the agent makes out as well. Although maybe Hurley wouldn't do this, an agent would sell us down the river in a heartbeat to make a buck.

But, I am just speculating based on what I see, from 10,000 miles away!

 

[T2Kplus10]

He can bring some URI recruits with him

They are a hell of a lot better than EJ's recruits.

 

[Leonard23]

Probably true. Hell, he's likely worth less than that, but this place is a career killer. When you run the worst program in the country you have to pay a pretty big premium to get anyone who is willing to come work for you. It is what it is, this is where you find yourself when you F up for a couple of decades in row.

Career killer? That's a common misconception created because we always made bad hires due to being cheap & 1 bad miss with Wright when we actually identified the best coach & were likely willing to pay. No other P5 school or even good midmajor wanted Waters, FHJ, Rice or EJ (or even Bannon for that matter). Had we hired Wright & other top candidates & they failed, then you could say it's a career killer.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

If Barchi was not an issue with the hiring of the Football Coach how can he be an issue with the hiring of the Basketball Coach ?

How did Carino reach this conclusion: ."Rutgers president Robert Barchi’s reputation in college basketball circles is so poor that it is said to be considered a heavy con by the favorites for the vacancy.

 

[SkilletHead2]

If Barchi was not an issue with the hiring of the Football Coach how can he be an issue with the hiring of the Basketball Coach ?

How did Carino reach this conclusion: ."Rutgers president Robert Barchi’s reputation in college basketball circles is so poor that it is said to be considered a heavy con by the favorites for the vacancy.

He's writing what Hurley's agent gave him to write.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Three things

1.) we need to out spend for coaches until our facilities are on par to compensate for the risk they take for taking out job on an unlevel playing field


2.) the guy is allowed some time to think it through. There is a lot of risk for him to take the job

3.) Hobbs knows what he is doing here. He is laying it all out there with a good offer. If it doesn't fly, it not the administrations fault again

 

[soundcrib]

What candidate for any job, in their right mind, would "offend" their future boss/CEO?

 

[seels2662]

Wow, but not surprising I've basically been saying this the whole time...Thats why we need a coach people want to play for....selling a vision with a coach with alot of promise but short on resume will keep us in the toilet...pay big money for a big coach

 

[Hondo77]

6yrs at 2mm per? For Danny Hurley???

Just hire Jay Williams for 250k and give Ash an extra 1mm per year to use as bag money.

I wouldn't give Jay Williams 10 cents.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

He's writing what Hurley's agent gave him to write.

DING DING DING!!!

 

[Leonard23]

RU will probably have to overpay, given the other concerns, facilities, etc..

He's only worth that because Rutgers can't commit to facility upgrades. So to entice that level of candidate (without facilities) you have to overpay. I agree he is worth $1.5MM/year. Maybe less. ONCE A SHOVEL GOES IN THE GROUND. Until then I can't tell you what a seemingly solid HC with local ties and a huge name is worth. $2MM sounds good actually.

We'd be overpaying him at $1.5M/yr. $2M/yr is criminal.

Its just awfully sad that there aren't enough alumni to get Hobbs the cash he need to build the facility. I am pretty sure that with the state tax credits as well as the money from prior regimes Hobbs stated they were "close" early in his tenure which some believed to be about $10 million away. If this is true it is sad that we don't have folks stepping up at times like this to have the facility get in the way of hiring the best coach. If not true, that its even sadder.

Kinda hard to blame Barchi in my opinion.

You think they are/were $10MM from being fully funded (at the $100MM or so price tag), or $10MM from the point where they'd be able to break ground?

Neither. $10 million away from the $45 or so for the basketball facility. I believe the total is $45 million less $25 million in tax credits leaves $20 million. Pernetti and Hermann have been raising monies for this for 4 years now. If they raised $10 million then there should be $10 million on Hobbs plate.

Pretty simple math and sad that we don't have it. I was not there but It was reported that he said they needed about $10 million I believe.

How in the heck don't we have enough $ to build the practice facility with the $25M tax credit? Isn't $35M or so enough to at least break ground on it?

 

[RU85inFla]

We'd be overpaying him at $1.5M/yr. $2M/yr is criminal.







How in the heck don't we have enough $ to build the practice facility with the $25M tax credit? Isn't $35M or so enough to at least break ground on it?

I agree with you that why I believe that just like with football, much of the info is just chatter.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

[/QUOTE]How in the heck don't we have enough $ to build the practice facility with the $25M tax credit? Isn't $35M or so enough to at least break ground on it?[/QUOTE]


Rutgers does things *** backwards. However, if we do it the right way and borrow against future earnings, the media and its followers will slam us mercilessly.

Essentially, we can't win no matter what we do.