Barchi strikes again

[MadRU]

This from NJ.COM a couple days ago:

One key factor: Hobbs has made it clear to all candidates that Rutgers is no longer operating on the cheap, and that the position will not only include a competitive Big Ten salary but many of the perks — private jets for recruiting trips, expanded administrative staff positions, etc. — that are necessary to compete. That includes the practice building that is a centerpiece of the athletic department's plans to revamp its facilities

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...rley_for_vacant_hoops.html#incart_river_index

 

[Mikemarc]

6-year, 2M for a coach that hasn't done much....

Doesn't seem like a non-committment to basketball to me....

Hurley demands are too high.

 

[srru86]

I dont understand this.

Every school in the country has built basketball practice facilities with donor money. EVERY SINGLE ONE. If Rutgers can't pull it together thru three AD's and three Presidents someone will need to explain to me the "It's Barchi's fault" logic.

The singular commitment to football certainly goes back long before Barchi, no?

And the reason we can't raise enough money for a basketball practice facility?

Good Point

 

[mrslate]

typical panic setting in

Oh my. What a bunch of old ladies. I would hate to be in a foxhole with you guys.

 

[RBS05]

I just re-read the article. What a crock of ****. Yes, I'm sure a lot of college basketball coaches were well aware of the Barchi-LeGrand graduation speaker snub and that's part of what is causing such an issue for us.

Nice job by you lemmings who took the bait on this.

 

[bac2therac]

thats true but its lip service right now, it looks there must be no guaranteed start date, thats a potential issue here. We have been saying for 6-7 years about upgrades and still nothing, not surprising people are skeptical. I would think any head coach would be concerned if something isnt helping him until beyond year 3

 

[bac2therac]

6-year, 2M for a coach that hasn't done much....

Doesn't seem like a non-committment to basketball to me....

Hurley demands are too high.

it has nothing to do with money, you can give $8 million a year to Coach K and he would still have major concerns of commitment here

 

[bac2therac]

Certainly don't want to beg him to take it by over-paying and although it's not the most desirable job, there has to be MANY coaches who are better choices than Williams.

I agree with you. I can live if its not Hurley, its Hobbs job to get someone else not just take a flyer on Williams because he is the only candidate where you are operating in a positiion of strength, unfortunately the years and years of neglect is coming back to bite RU once again

 

[megadrone]

It isn't just Barchi's reputation, it's also Rutgers' reputation -- no support for the team, coaching graveyard, would take a miracle to win there. Rutgers fired a favorite son after 3 years when a miracle was needed. Hurley could easily be wavering (with good reason). Lonergan would need an awful lot of enticement to leave GW.

It's embarrassing that we're even considering Williams who hasn't coached at any level, after bringing on Flood for football.

 

[RU Husky]

srru86 knows that Pogo was right, again!

 

[MadRU]

Again, from the article I linked above:

One key factor: Hobbs has made it clear to all candidates that Rutgers is no longer operating on the cheap, and that the position will not only include a competitive Big Ten salary but many of the perks — private jets for recruiting trips, expanded administrative staff positions, etc. — that are necessary to compete. That includes the practice building that is a centerpiece of the athletic department's plans to revamp its facilities

*** It is now up to Hobbs, but that makes it sound like the investment is there if he is making it clear to all candidates.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...rley_for_vacant_hoops.html#incart_river_index

 

[RU84]

Smells like the press is being used for negotiating leverage. One of the key skills of a good AD/ Administration is to balance paying a fair price and not being taken to the cleaners. Sure seems like their may be a tug of war going on between the two camps.

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Sounds to me like the ball is in Hurley's court.

 

[bac2therac]

but if he isnt giving a shovel date it could be an issue

 

[bac2therac]

Sounds to me like the ball is in Hurley's court.

yeah it is, I feel RU is not going to cave to demands so he either leaps or he doesnt and we move on to a new candidate, we will know soon

 

[B1GNJHoops]

but if he isnt giving a shovel date it could be an issue

If we're willing to offer around $2M, we could attract a decent non-Hurley candidate.

 

[NBKnight]

Again, from the article I linked above:

One key factor: Hobbs has made it clear to all candidates that Rutgers is no longer operating on the cheap, and that the position will not only include a competitive Big Ten salary but many of the perks — private jets for recruiting trips, expanded administrative staff positions, etc. — that are necessary to compete. That includes the practice building that is a centerpiece of the athletic department's plans to revamp its facilities

*** It is now up to Hobbs, but that makes it sound like the investment is there if he is making it clear to all candidates.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball...rley_for_vacant_hoops.html#incart_river_index

The plans are in place, but until the funds are raised and shovels are in the ground for the practice facility, candidates are going to be rightfully concerned.

No inside information, but I believe that Hobbs can address all the other issues and get the candidates comfortable with jets, staffing and the other requests.

 

[bac2therac]

If we're willing to offer around $2M, we could attract a decent non-Hurley candidate.

im okay with this..but not Jay...unless its Jay wright

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Unless some Rutgers booster feels like donating $10-20 million in the next 24-48 hours, we can't guarantee anything regarding a new facility.

 

[MadRU]

It's up to Hobbs to convince all candidates. I am sure he is working hard.

 

[Scarletnut]

bac,
I think you're extrapolating Barchi's fault from this article. I'm gonna go with the theory that Hobbs is a very bright guy, that he has discussed all the basketball parameters from the time he was hired (and wouldn't have taken the job if he was handcuffed, especially since basketball is more in his wheelhouse than football was), and that he knows that any credible candidate would want some sort of assurance that upgrades are in the works. Let's see how this plays out. If we hire on the cheap, I'll agree with you. I'm gonna give Hobbs the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

writers are just writing to get clicks.

Give it time. We should know a lot more by Friday.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Holy crap:

- the assumptions in this thread are funny. Typical, understood based on the past, but funny nonetheless

- a reporter says that it is "SAID" to be an issue with Hurley and everyone jumps all over it as fact? Okay, sure maybe it is, or maybe it's just a gigantic assumption on Carino's part - who has been pushing for Hurley since Second 1 OR it's Hurley's camp trying to get more out of RU??

- this is an OPEN POSITION at a public university. If Jay Williams wanted and pushed for an interview, as we all know is the case, he would get one. Doesn't mean he'll be considered, however, so chillax people because Jay Williams IS NOT getting this job. The fact that Longeran was interviewed should make all feel a little better.

 

[bac2therac]

Nuts....Carino knows his stuff, yes he is pushing for Hurley but he isnt making this up either..its a big concern

 

[WhoRU?]

Like the other head coaching search, it would appear that there isn't much coming out of athletic department. What we are hearing is from candidates... and their agents. They are working to gain leverage. In Hobbs limited public statements -- he has tried to address institutional support, but the athletic department isn't doing much to shape the message. If Hobbs is close to a deal with one of the candidates, this will all pass. If he isn't close to landing a coach, then it's going to be difficult to change the narrative that is developing. Frankly, if he can't land one of his top choices at this point, the narrative may be true -- we may not have the institutional support.

 

[Mikemarc]

Some will, but I won't blame Barchi if we don't get Hurley.

I'd rather someone who wants to be here..

 

[chrisru99]

I wonder how much of the 100 million we have right now. I know we have 25 million that we got from a politician. I wonder how much of the remaining 75 we as Alums and fans have given? Does anyone know?

 

[SAE96]

EJ was fired less than a week ago. We're still very early in the negotiations process. Each side is using the media to put pressure on the other to capitulate to various demands.

A search and the subsequent negotiation for a position like this usually takes weeks. The fans need to have some patience given how complex this type of agreement is.

I think when the smoke clears Danny will be the coach.

 

[S_Janowski]

OP can't be serious. Blaming Barchi for not getting Hurley? Newsflash - A president has responsibilities that extend wayyy beyond college Athletics. Also what does he have to do with the past 20-30 years of neglect that basketball program has received?

We can do better anyway.

 

[MidwestKnights]

Carino article

key part here...."Rutgers president Robert Barchi’s reputation in college basketball circles is so poor that it is said to be considered a heavy con by the favorites for the vacancy, starting with Dan Hurley."

http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ling-rutgers-job-barchis-reputation/81806464/

This is exactly why I thought it would be a mistake to fire Eddie at this point. Too much negative history at RU and firing Eddie after the Rice debacle just adds to it.

And this article just covers the Barchi regime.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Nuts....Carino knows his stuff, yes he is pushing for Hurley but he isnt making this up either..its a big concern

I'll wait until AFTER the search, AFTER the hire, and AFTER comments from those actually involved, not hearsay, to form an opinion on how any of this went down. Unless Carino was in the room - which he wasn't - or Danny's agents are trying to get more (and if the "$2M/year someone threw out, somewhere in some thread, is true, that's WAY TOO MUCH already IMHO...).

 

[RUbot]

I know there is no way to ever do it, but would really love to see a rivals feature that could display something on each posters profile to indicate a validated level of annual or lifetime donations made to the RU athletic programs. Would be interesting to see if those complaining the most about lack of university commitments, have made personal financial commitments commensurate with the volume of their criticism

 

[Mikemarc]

Nuts....Carino knows his stuff, yes he is pushing for Hurley but he isnt making this up either..its a big concern

I understand it's "apples to oranges"..and I'm not comparing RU's committement to football to its committment to basketball...

But during our coaching search, it was rumored that Barchi's lack of committment to big time football was going to derail our candidates..and we found still found someone who wanted to be here.

If Hurley doesn't want to be here without "concessions"..then go on to the next person. We can still get a great candidate. Hobbs knows what he's doing.

 

[KnightDC]

I just re-read the article. What a crock of ****. Yes, I'm sure a lot of college basketball coaches were well aware of the Barchi-LeGrand graduation speaker snub and that's part of what is causing such an issue for us.

Nice job by you lemmings who took the bait on this.

No but you can bet that the agents are aware.

 

[JonathanAlan]

I don't buy Carino's story. There's nothing in it that is new or wasn't known when Eddie Jordan was fired and Hurley and others expressed interest in the job. And Hobbs is not Herman.

 

[NBKnight]

I wonder how much of the 100 million we have right now. I know we have 25 million that we got from a politician. I wonder how much of the remaining 75 we as Alums and fans have given? Does anyone know?

The $100M also includes Hale Center improvements and the soccer/tennis/lax facility. The bb/vb/wrestling/gymnastics facility is easily the biggest part of the $100M.

Pretty sure Hobbs said that there would be an update on contributions in April.

 

[SAE96]

I don't believe that we've yet to offer $2 million a year. I think that's what Danny wants and we'll probably get there eventually.

We're just not there yet.

 

[RU82]

6yrs at 2mm per? For Danny Hurley???

Just hire Jay Williams for 250k and give Ash an extra 1mm per year to use as bag money.

 

[Scarlet Pride]

Barchi is an easy excuse but he's done plenty to demonstrate commitment to athletics. And he gets flack for firing people that deserved to be fired? This is nothing but a negotiating ploy on Hurley's team and the usual NJ "sources" that complain and spin depending on the scenario. Typical Hurley camp BS

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I don't believe that we've yet to offer $2 million a year. I think that's what Danny wants and we'll probably get there eventually.

We're just not there yet.

Okay thanks and if so then he can take a hike.