August Jobs Report

[MTTiger19]

What about illegal alien children picking marijuana? Asking for Gavin Newsom..

Definitely. Those are considered “white collar” jobs to libs.

 

[pjhawk]

You acknowledge that Covid lockdowns eliminated a lot of jobs, right? And then those jobs were added back gradually after the lockdowns were lifted, which dragged on for years in liberal controlled areas. By 2024 most of that had been worked out. The economy was also absorbing all of the new government jobs and illegal immigrants. These are real factors and if you wanted to have an honest conversation you would acknowledge them.

This is gibberish not supported by any statistical evidence.

So Covid rehiring was still big in 2024 but came to an abrupt halt on 1/20/2025? And this is a major factor in Biden's 2024 job creation numbers vs Trumps 1/2025 -- 08/2026 numbers?

Why didn't Trump/Republicans tell us during the 2024 campaign that the numbers he was howling about were actually better than what he was going to be able to deliver come 2025?

"All of the new government jobs"? "Illegal immigrants"? Wut?

You're not actually citing any "real" factors. This is made-up on the spot excuses for Trump not delivering on any of his promises.

And the electorate is very very very aware now that Trump is full of it when it comes to pretty much everything. You cultists are the remaining true believers, and you'll swallow whatever he jizzes out on you. Because beta cuck simp cultists.

 

[pjhawk]

50% of the entire budget is spent on entitlements. One party opened up the door and put millions of illegals on tax payer funded subsidies. Stfu.

This is completely made up nonsense.

 

[pjhawk]

The three biggest entitlement programs grew by nearly $900–930 billion (roughly 39–40%) between the pre-Biden baseline and the end of FY 2025. Literally stfu.

Oh FFS, this is made up ********.

 

[MTTiger19]

This is completely made up nonsense.

Is it? Hmm. Because I’m not making this up:

Under Biden, CBP recorded roughly 10–11 million nationwide border encounters (plus about 2 million known gotaways), with several million people released or paroled into the U.S. and a multi-million net rise in the unauthorized population. Many of those individuals (or their U.S.-born children) accessed taxpayer-funded emergency Medicaid, refugee/entrant assistance, and other benefits through parole, asylum claims, or state/local programs.

 

[MTTiger19]

Oh FFS, this is made up ********.

Wrong. Figures come primarily from CBO actuals series and U.S. Treasury Combined Statement / Monthly Treasury Statement data for FY 2020–2025. Minor variations exist across sources depending on netting of premiums/offsetting receipts and exact fiscal-year timing.

 

[MTTiger19]

Oh FFS, this is made up ********.

Wrong. Figures come primarily from CBO actuals series and U.S. Treasury Combined Statement / Monthly Treasury Statement data for FY 2020–2025. Minor variations exist across sources depending on netting of premiums/offsetting receipts and exact fiscal-year timing.

 

[MTTiger19]

Oh FFS, this is made up ********.

We all know facts and logic are taboo on the left. Cope harder loser.

 

[pjhawk]

Is it? Hmm. Because I’m not making this up:

Under Biden, CBP recorded roughly 10–11 million nationwide border encounters (plus about 2 million known gotaways), with several million people released or paroled into the U.S. and a multi-million net rise in the unauthorized population. Many of those individuals (or their U.S.-born children) accessed taxpayer-funded emergency Medicaid, refugee/entrant assistance, and other benefits through parole, asylum claims, or state/local programs.

Wrong. Figures come primarily from CBO actuals series and U.S. Treasury Combined Statement / Monthly Treasury Statement data for FY 2020–2025. Minor variations exist across sources depending on netting of premiums/offsetting receipts and exact fiscal-year timing.

You're making this up. Provide some actual evidence MAGA simp.

And of course you're already changing criteria as you begin to backtrack on your original assertions.

"US citizens". "2020".

You people love to lie and pretend that Biden was President in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic.

from Google AI overview per your 39-40% claim on the 3 big entitlements during the Biden administration:

Federal spending across the entire U.S. budget grew by roughly 40% when compared back to pre-pandemic 2019 baselines, but the three largest individual entitlement programs—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—did not grow by 39–40% on their own during the Biden administration. [1]
Data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the House Budget Committee clarify how entitlement spending actually behaved during former President Biden's four-year term (2021–2025): [1, 2]

1. Where the "40% Growth" Figure Comes From
Analysis by fiscal policy groups like the Cato Institute shows that overall federal spending rose by about 40% between FY 2019 and FY 2023. However, this surge was not primarily driven by the big three entitlement programs. Instead, it was caused by: [1]

• • Interest on the National Debt: Surged drastically due to rising interest rates and a larger debt load.
  • Discretionary expansions: Higher spending on non-defense discretionary programs.
  • Targeted pandemic/social aid: Direct stimulus, student loan adjustments, and temporary expansions to food stamps (SNAP) and welfare programs. [1, 2, 3]

2. Actual Growth of the 3 Big Entitlements
While the three primary entitlements—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—continue to make up the vast majority of mandatory government spending (collectively consuming over 40% of the entire federal budget), their individual growth trajectories during the Biden administration differed significantly from the blanket "40%" figure: [1, 2, 3]

• • Social Security & Medicare: These programs grew steadily but at a much lower cumulative rate during the Biden years. Growth was primarily driven by the aging Baby Boomer generation and mandatory inflation-linked Cost-of-Living Adjustments (COLA), rather than new legislative expansions. [1, 2, 3]
  • Medicaid: Medicaid did see sharper, accelerated growth (though still below 40% overall). This spike was fueled by a pandemic-era policy signed under the Trump administration and extended into the Biden administration, which barred states from removing individuals from Medicaid rolls during the Public Health Emergency. Once that policy expired, Medicaid enrollment and spending began to stabilize. [1]

The 39% to 40% growth metric accurately reflects how much the entire federal spending baseline shifted upward compared to the late 2010s, but attributing that specific, massive spike solely to the three major entitlement programs conflates overall budget inflation with individual program growth. [1]

 

[MTTiger19]

Gfy

You're making this up. Provide some actual evidence MAGA simp.

And of course you're already changing criteria as you begin to backtrack on your original assertions.

"US citizens". "2020".

You people love to lie and pretend that Biden was President in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic.

from Google AI overview per your 39-40% claim on the 3 big entitlements during the Biden administration:

Federal spending across the entire U.S. budget grew by roughly 40% when compared back to pre-pandemic 2019 baselines, but the three largest individual entitlement programs—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—did not grow by 39–40% on their own during the Biden administration. [1]
Data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the House Budget Committee clarify how entitlement spending actually behaved during former President Biden's four-year term (2021–2025): [1, 2]

1. Where the "40% Growth" Figure Comes From
Analysis by fiscal policy groups like the Cato Institute shows that overall federal spending rose by about 40% between FY 2019 and FY 2023. However, this surge was not primarily driven by the big three entitlement programs. Instead, it was caused by: [1]

• • Interest on the National Debt: Surged drastically due to rising interest rates and a larger debt load.
  • Discretionary expansions: Higher spending on non-defense discretionary programs.
  • Targeted pandemic/social aid: Direct stimulus, student loan adjustments, and temporary expansions to food stamps (SNAP) and welfare programs. [1, 2, 3]

2. Actual Growth of the 3 Big Entitlements
While the three primary entitlements—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—continue to make up the vast majority of mandatory government spending (collectively consuming over 40% of the entire federal budget), their individual growth trajectories during the Biden administration differed significantly from the blanket "40%" figure: [1, 2, 3]

• • Social Security & Medicare: These programs grew steadily but at a much lower cumulative rate during the Biden years. Growth was primarily driven by the aging Baby Boomer generation and mandatory inflation-linked Cost-of-Living Adjustments (COLA), rather than new legislative expansions. [1, 2, 3]
  • Medicaid: Medicaid did see sharper, accelerated growth (though still below 40% overall). This spike was fueled by a pandemic-era policy signed under the Trump administration and extended into the Biden administration, which barred states from removing individuals from Medicaid rolls during the Public Health Emergency. Once that policy expired, Medicaid enrollment and spending began to stabilize. [1]

The 39% to 40% growth metric accurately reflects how much the entire federal spending baseline shifted upward compared to the late 2010s, but attributing that specific, massive spike solely to the three major entitlement programs conflates overall budget inflation with individual program growth. [1]

gfy you fvcking beta *****.

The Google AI overview is wrong on the core numbers and on the framing. It invents a distinction that the actual budget data does not support, then uses that to claim the 39–40% figure somehow doesn’t apply to the big three entitlements. Here is the evidence from primary sources.


Primary data, not narratives


Use the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) historical tables / Budget and Economic Outlook series and the U.S. Treasury Monthly Treasury Statement / Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances. These are the actuals, not think-tank summaries.


• Total federal outlays
FY 2019: ~$4.4 trillion
FY 2023: ~$6.1–6.2 trillion
That is roughly +39–40% nominal. FY 2024 and early FY 2025 data continue the elevated baseline. This is the figure the overview correctly notes for the overall budget.


• Social Security + Medicare + Medicaid (the three largest mandatory programs)
These are not small residual items. In recent years they already exceed 40% of total outlays and are the dominant drivers of the mandatory side of the budget.
From CBO and Treasury actuals:


• Social Security (OASDI) outlays rose from ~$1.0–1.05 trillion range pre-pandemic to well over $1.4 trillion by FY 2024–2025.


• Medicare (Parts A/B/D combined, net of premiums in some presentations) moved from the mid-$700s billion to well over $1 trillion.


• Medicaid (federal share) rose sharply from the mid-$400s billion into the $600+ billion range and stayed elevated after the continuous-enrollment requirement ended.
Cumulatively across the three, the nominal increase from the FY 2019 baseline through the Biden-term years is on the order of the same 35–45% range once you use consistent accounting (gross vs. net of premiums/offsetting receipts, fiscal-year timing). The overview’s claim that they “did not grow by 39–40% on their own” is simply false once you look at the dollar levels rather than selective percentage-point narratives.


Interest on the debt did rise sharply (higher rates + higher principal). Discretionary and temporary pandemic spending also rose and then partially receded. None of that erases the large absolute and percentage growth in the three entitlement programs. The entitlement baseline itself ratcheted upward and stayed higher; that is what the CBO long-term projections show continuing.


Timing and responsibility


Trump was president for all of calendar 2020 and the first three weeks of 2021. The continuous-enrollment provision for Medicaid was enacted in the Families First Coronavirus Response Act (March 2020). Biden’s administration extended the public-health emergency repeatedly, kept the continuous-enrollment policy in place far longer than many states preferred, and oversaw the subsequent unwinding. Social Security COLAs and Medicare spending growth continued under both administrations because of demographics and statutory formulas; the absolute levels in FY 2021–2025 are still the higher post-2019 baseline. Claiming “Biden was not president in 2020” does not change the multi-year spending trajectory that is visible in the Treasury and CBO series for the years that followed.


Source quality


Cato and similar groups correctly flagged the overall ~40% rise in total outlays from the late-2010s baseline. The Google overview then tries to partition the increase so that the three entitlements magically did not participate in anything close to that growth. That partition fails against the actual dollar series. Minor differences in netting premiums or exact fiscal-year cutoffs exist; they do not turn a ~40% overall rise into “the big three barely grew.”


In short: the overall federal spending baseline did jump ~40% from the pre-pandemic level. The three largest entitlement programs are a major part of that higher baseline, not an exception to it. The primary data (CBO actuals and Treasury statements) show the growth; the AI overview’s attempt to wall them off is the part that does not survive contact with the numbers.

 

[MTTiger19]

You're making this up. Provide some actual evidence MAGA simp.

And of course you're already changing criteria as you begin to backtrack on your original assertions.

"US citizens". "2020".

You people love to lie and pretend that Biden was President in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic.

from Google AI overview per your 39-40% claim on the 3 big entitlements during the Biden administration:

Federal spending across the entire U.S. budget grew by roughly 40% when compared back to pre-pandemic 2019 baselines, but the three largest individual entitlement programs—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—did not grow by 39–40% on their own during the Biden administration. [1]
Data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the House Budget Committee clarify how entitlement spending actually behaved during former President Biden's four-year term (2021–2025): [1, 2]

1. Where the "40% Growth" Figure Comes From
Analysis by fiscal policy groups like the Cato Institute shows that overall federal spending rose by about 40% between FY 2019 and FY 2023. However, this surge was not primarily driven by the big three entitlement programs. Instead, it was caused by: [1]

• • Interest on the National Debt: Surged drastically due to rising interest rates and a larger debt load.
  • Discretionary expansions: Higher spending on non-defense discretionary programs.
  • Targeted pandemic/social aid: Direct stimulus, student loan adjustments, and temporary expansions to food stamps (SNAP) and welfare programs. [1, 2, 3]

2. Actual Growth of the 3 Big Entitlements
While the three primary entitlements—Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid—continue to make up the vast majority of mandatory government spending (collectively consuming over 40% of the entire federal budget), their individual growth trajectories during the Biden administration differed significantly from the blanket "40%" figure: [1, 2, 3]

• • Social Security & Medicare: These programs grew steadily but at a much lower cumulative rate during the Biden years. Growth was primarily driven by the aging Baby Boomer generation and mandatory inflation-linked Cost-of-Living Adjustments (COLA), rather than new legislative expansions. [1, 2, 3]
  • Medicaid: Medicaid did see sharper, accelerated growth (though still below 40% overall). This spike was fueled by a pandemic-era policy signed under the Trump administration and extended into the Biden administration, which barred states from removing individuals from Medicaid rolls during the Public Health Emergency. Once that policy expired, Medicaid enrollment and spending began to stabilize. [1]

The 39% to 40% growth metric accurately reflects how much the entire federal spending baseline shifted upward compared to the late 2010s, but attributing that specific, massive spike solely to the three major entitlement programs conflates overall budget inflation with individual program growth. [1]

Nothing better than taking a big fat sh-t on your “facts”.

 

[pjhawk]

Gfy

gfy you fvcking beta *****.

The Google AI overview is wrong on the core numbers and on the framing. It invents a distinction that the actual budget data does not support, then uses that to claim the 39–40% figure somehow doesn’t apply to the big three entitlements. Here is the evidence from primary sources.


Primary data, not narratives


Use the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) historical tables / Budget and Economic Outlook series and the U.S. Treasury Monthly Treasury Statement / Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances. These are the actuals, not think-tank summaries.


• Total federal outlays
FY 2019: ~$4.4 trillion
FY 2023: ~$6.1–6.2 trillion
That is roughly +39–40% nominal. FY 2024 and early FY 2025 data continue the elevated baseline. This is the figure the overview correctly notes for the overall budget.


• Social Security + Medicare + Medicaid (the three largest mandatory programs)
These are not small residual items. In recent years they already exceed 40% of total outlays and are the dominant drivers of the mandatory side of the budget.
From CBO and Treasury actuals:


• Social Security (OASDI) outlays rose from ~$1.0–1.05 trillion range pre-pandemic to well over $1.4 trillion by FY 2024–2025.


• Medicare (Parts A/B/D combined, net of premiums in some presentations) moved from the mid-$700s billion to well over $1 trillion.


• Medicaid (federal share) rose sharply from the mid-$400s billion into the $600+ billion range and stayed elevated after the continuous-enrollment requirement ended.
Cumulatively across the three, the nominal increase from the FY 2019 baseline through the Biden-term years is on the order of the same 35–45% range once you use consistent accounting (gross vs. net of premiums/offsetting receipts, fiscal-year timing). The overview’s claim that they “did not grow by 39–40% on their own” is simply false once you look at the dollar levels rather than selective percentage-point narratives.


Interest on the debt did rise sharply (higher rates + higher principal). Discretionary and temporary pandemic spending also rose and then partially receded. None of that erases the large absolute and percentage growth in the three entitlement programs. The entitlement baseline itself ratcheted upward and stayed higher; that is what the CBO long-term projections show continuing.


Timing and responsibility


Trump was president for all of calendar 2020 and the first three weeks of 2021. The continuous-enrollment provision for Medicaid was enacted in the Families First Coronavirus Response Act (March 2020). Biden’s administration extended the public-health emergency repeatedly, kept the continuous-enrollment policy in place far longer than many states preferred, and oversaw the subsequent unwinding. Social Security COLAs and Medicare spending growth continued under both administrations because of demographics and statutory formulas; the absolute levels in FY 2021–2025 are still the higher post-2019 baseline. Claiming “Biden was not president in 2020” does not change the multi-year spending trajectory that is visible in the Treasury and CBO series for the years that followed.


Source quality


Cato and similar groups correctly flagged the overall ~40% rise in total outlays from the late-2010s baseline. The Google overview then tries to partition the increase so that the three entitlements magically did not participate in anything close to that growth. That partition fails against the actual dollar series. Minor differences in netting premiums or exact fiscal-year cutoffs exist; they do not turn a ~40% overall rise into “the big three barely grew.”


In short: the overall federal spending baseline did jump ~40% from the pre-pandemic level. The three largest entitlement programs are a major part of that higher baseline, not an exception to it. The primary data (CBO actuals and Treasury statements) show the growth; the AI overview’s attempt to wall them off is the part that does not survive contact with the numbers.

Oh STFU. You're of course backtracking all over the place compared to your original assertion.

"Primary data not narratives". All projection all the time. Same as with your weirdo trans obsession. So full of it.

 

[Scrubby]

Is it? Hmm. Because I’m not making this up:

Under Biden, CBP recorded roughly 10–11 million nationwide border encounters (plus about 2 million known gotaways), with several million people released or paroled into the U.S. and a multi-million net rise in the unauthorized population. Many of those individuals (or their U.S.-born children) accessed taxpayer-funded emergency Medicaid, refugee/entrant assistance, and other benefits through parole, asylum claims, or state/local programs.

Democrat funded NGOs literally directed the illegals on how best to take advantage of the american tax payer. Not only did they facilitate the behavior but they also offered them free legal services to make sure they were protected as they robbed us blind.

 

[pjhawk]

They always, ALWAYS are actually going back to 2019 when they start making claims about Biden administration spending.

 

[MTTiger19]

Oh STFU. You're of course backtracking all over the place compared to your original assertion.

"Primary data not narratives". All projection all the time. Same as with your weirdo trans obsession. So full of it.

Beta boy, Gfy. Your stupid *** post got nuked. You’re full of ****. Get over it. I can’t help you’re a huge, virtue signaling cuck. Gfy.

 

[MTTiger19]

Democrat funded NGOs literally directed the illegals on how best to take advantage of the american tax payer. Not only did they facilitate the behavior but they also offered them free legal services to make sure they were protected as they robbed us blind.

Hell they developed an app for them. These fvcking tranny, illegal immigrant loving retards are unbelievable.

 

[flotiger]

"You losers are incapable of taking accountability for your actions." No truer words have ever been spoken.

Come on now.....What would you know about truth? Lol. You're of the most ignorant on here.

 

[MTTiger19]

Come on now.....What would you know about truth? Lol. You're of the most ignorant on here.

Always hilarious seeing people that think men with hogs are women talk about understanding truth. Lol. You’re a meme at this point.

 

[Allornothing]

Come on now.....What would you know about truth? Lol. You're of the most ignorant on here.

I know plenty about the truth. I also know you're a reverse racist, which is why I stopped responding to you.

Tell me something I said that wasn't true.

 

[MTTiger19]

I know plenty about the truth. I also know you're a reverse racist, which is why I stopped responding to you.

Tell me something I said that wasn't true.

I gotta hear about this reverse racist? You mean he’s a self hating clown?

he’s one of these:

 

[Allornothing]

I gotta hear about this reverse racist? You mean he’s a self hating clown?

he’s one of these:

I mean "IT's" a black person that's from Florence, SC that is absolutely racist against white people. Nothing can make it any different. His subscription to this site is probably paid for by SNAP benefits.

"IT" don't have to buy groceries, so TI gets the benefit.

 

[pjhawk]

Beta boy, Gfy. Your stupid *** post got nuked. You’re full of ****. Get over it. I can’t help you’re a huge, virtue signaling cuck. Gfy.

Hopefully you've got your meds within reach this morning. I know bringing up the trans is probably gonna bring on another lengthy meltdown from you on that topic.

"nuked"

 

[pjhawk]

I know plenty about the truth. I also know you're a reverse racist, which is why I stopped responding to you.

Tell me something I said that wasn't true.

A supporter of Donald John Trump yammering about "truth". All projection all the time.

 

[Hawkedup]

It’s adorable that any of you magat morons actually believe thus report. Lulz.

 

[Allornothing]

Leave it to a white boy, white knighting for a black dude from Florence. He's a liberal so to you I guess his **** is delicious.

 

[kidmike41]

This is gibberish not supported by any statistical evidence.

So Covid rehiring was still big in 2024 but came to an abrupt halt on 1/20/2025? And this is a major factor in Biden's 2024 job creation numbers vs Trumps 1/2025 -- 08/2026 numbers?

Why didn't Trump/Republicans tell us during the 2024 campaign that the numbers he was howling about were actually better than what he was going to be able to deliver come 2025?

"All of the new government jobs"? "Illegal immigrants"? Wut?

You're not actually citing any "real" factors. This is made-up on the spot excuses for Trump not delivering on any of his promises.

And the electorate is very very very aware now that Trump is full of it when it comes to pretty much everything. You cultists are the remaining true believers, and you'll swallow whatever he jizzes out on you. Because beta cuck simp cultists.

Trump is not delivering on his promises. You are being a cultist.

 

[Scrubby]

It’s adorable that any of you magat morons actually believe thus report. Lulz.

You and PJ believed that ann selzer poll claiming kamala was on track to win the state of Iowa lol

 

[Hawkedup]

You and PJ believed that ann selzer poll claiming kamala was on track to win the state of Iowa lol

You keep saying that but everyone knows you are a lying piece of trash. So **** off dork

 

[fsu1jreed]

Is it? Hmm. Because I’m not making this up:

Under Biden, CBP recorded roughly 10–11 million nationwide border encounters (plus about 2 million known gotaways), with several million people released or paroled into the U.S. and a multi-million net rise in the unauthorized population. Many of those individuals (or their U.S.-born children) accessed taxpayer-funded emergency Medicaid, refugee/entrant assistance, and other benefits through parole, asylum claims, or state/local programs.

So gullibe


Under federal law, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in standard, federally funded Medicaid programs. [1, 2, 3]

Federal Rules and Exceptions

• • No Direct Coverage: Undocumented individuals cannot receive regular full-scope Medicaid, Medicare, or ACA health insurance. [1]
  • Emergency Medicaid: Federal law requires hospitals to provide life-saving emergency care to anyone regardless of status. Emergency Medicaid reimburses hospitals for stabilizing patients or providing labor and delivery care. Review the House Budget Committee analysis for data on federal emergency spending. [1, 2, 3]
  • Citizen Children: Parents who are undocumented may apply for Medicaid on behalf of their children who were born in the U.S. and are citizen

 

[Scrubby]

You keep saying that but everyone knows you are a lying piece of trash. So **** off dork

Everyone from the OG Iowa forum remembers that thread lol stop pretending like you didn’t take part in that circle jerk festivity. None of the tiger folks believe you. Just admit you were duped and fell for the propaganda. Do that one thing and I’ll stop punching down on you.

 

[dpic73]

 

[baltimorened]

They always, ALWAYS are actually going back to 2019 when they start making claims about Biden administration spending.

who cares where they start? Just look at a baseline and go from there. Everybody knows that federal spending increased during Trump because of COVID, and everybody knows that spending increased during Biden because of COVID.

Everybody should know that joblessness increased during Trump because so much was shut down, and everybody should accept that a lot of these jobs were reinstated during Biden. So were jobs "created" or reinstated...likely both.

So just come to an agreement on who's data to use - CBO looks like a good place - and see the actual numbers.

You're splitting a lot of your analysis with "you're backtacking" and "going back to 2019"......if everybody just stuck to the numbers from an agreed upon source, the thread would make a lot more sense.