reality-- so call fans ***** and complain yet less than 5000 contributed to BIGFund --some might say our fan base does little to really help our hires, facilities and reputation--bet you Baylor fans send in big checks
Ash and recruiting
- Thread starter newwavedave1
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Some rather complain than help, which is the biggest problem we have. They think CFB is the NFL.
Well if he could pull a rabbit out of his *** this year, I would really appreciate that.
maybe those people would like him more if he started wearing clothes that were 20 sizes too big for his body?
Thanks for all of the responses. Beats talking about the passing of some candy bar.
Cool story bro. Are you looking for a job ? I didn’t know this was indeed.com.
I think the best judge of whether ash can recruit or can’t recruit are the results, right?
post of the thread
someone said hopefully we get to .500 in a few year and then attract better kids. This board is always good for a laugh
We all want RU to succeed but realistically, what can we offer? We've got a coach that is subpar on game day, struggles recruiting, doesn't sell the program well and is slow to make adjustments and always playing catch up to other coaches on gameday. While the facilities are great, we've got a solid core of rabid fans and the atmosphere can be electric, we simply lack the right man for the job.
So I ask again, what can we offer right now?
So I ask again, what can we offer right now?
I'll repost this from earlier in the thread since we have another delusional commentator.
We want him to sell and close on more B1G level recruits. Or else he won't make it here.
Sitkowski, Lewis, Wise. Ash cannot be considered a poor recruiter with those gets at QB in back to back to back years.
Schiano could sell Oil to the Texans....this guy is low energy.
imo
imo
Go to the commitment list and see how he done from 2002 till he left.
https://rutgers.rivals.com/commitments/football/2010
class of 2011 (good)and if you credit him with ( very good) 2012, the rest were Ash like.
College Football:
It/s not about X's or O's it's about the Jimmy's or Joe;s!
If this guy is a zero in recruiting - he is not going to make it.
Peace out
It/s not about X's or O's it's about the Jimmy's or Joe;s!
If this guy is a zero in recruiting - he is not going to make it.
Peace out
Right on. Met them at the Queen's Island tailgate. Abro, Fire, and RU Princess round out the photo.
Although I have never met the man personally, the opinion I stated comes from someone who has met and had many interactions with him on a professional basis.
Don’t hold your breath on wise ever stepping foot on campus.
And Lewis really showed nothing last year.
Thank you for the compliment. Being 75 I am not looking for a job.
You are correct in saying the best way to judge Ash is by taking into consideration the results regarding recruiting ALONG with the results of on field performance. Hypothetical question. If last year we were 8 n 4 and we had a couple of 4 stars and 3 or 4 of the top 10 in state kids committed would we be having this conversation. Probably not. My point is many on here imply the only reason Ash can’t recruit is due to his personality. There is a ton of other factors that go into recruiting that some seem to disregard in their assessment
You’re welcome and it sounds like you have had a great career.
We can debate all we want, ash will get his time and I hope he succeeds at recruiting and winning football games . The results are what he will be judged on. We are all hoping those results are good, because we don’t want another rebuild project in 2-3 years.
I think we all would rather be debating whether ash can win the big one and not whether can ash win 5 games
wise changed when Art was signed . It was in very subtle ways but I remember noticing it back then and wondered if it would impact his commitment.
Schiano was a good recruiter at RU not the great recruiter some imagine him to be.
I’d say best fullback/halfback combo in the country.
Top 10 OL unit in the country.
Top 10 DL combo in the country, Meekens, Foster, Westerman.
Top 5 safety in the country.
Best OT in the country
Top 5 CB in the country.... is decent recruiting
Wise was reported to be attending the BBQ on campus today. It seems to me the change regarding Wise is probably related to the OC change from KIll to McNulty. He signed on when Kill was still onboard, it's unclear how his relationship with McNulty stands.
First off I said his recruiting was good not great...no where did I mention decent. Your looking at results in a lesser conference. I'm talking about the ranking of the players/classes coming out of high school. Many of his recruits out performed their ranking which speaks to his ability to identify talent and potential, The same is certainly possible with Ash recruits also.
You did say good.
And you are also correct about guys over performing.
As always, just making the point we won’t win many games until we have those kinds of players.
Before he got hurt, Grant was as good as you can be at returning kicks.
I agree but I also believe it's premature to criticize Ash as a recruiter. First he may also have a knack for recruiting players that were underrated and most of his recruits wont begin to be counted on for major impacts until this coming season so we will begin to see and 2nd, until on field results are at least decent it is difficult for any coach to bring in the type of recruits we all want. I'm looking forward to at minimum decent (5-6 wins) results this season
Agree with most of this post. It’s not an easy task recruiting the In State talent but this is what is needed to move the Program forward. Question the comment of “delusional expectations of fans for expecting more on Recruiting”. Really ? Nobody is expecting droves of 4 and 5 Star Recruits. However it is not unreasonable to expect the Coach do better than only getting 2 of the Top 20 NJ recruits in the 2018 class and only 2 of the Top 20 thus far in 2019. No Top 10 in either Class. Good news on the most recent recruit ...need to build on this.
Huh ? Have any of those guys completed a meaningful game day pass ?
Check your hearing aids. And check your fandom too.
Two words: Marlyn Johnson
Two more: Artur Sitkowski
Two more: Bo Melton
Two more: Jerome Washington
Two more: Micah Clark
We have all these threads about Ash and recruiting. I know it's the off-season and that any football talk is better than long threads about candy, for instance But it does seem to me, not being a football "expert," that it will be impossible to judge Ash's recruiting for another 2-3 years until we see how his recruits do and how well he can develop them. It is unrealistic to judge him on getting the very top NJ players because the greatest recruiter would not be able to attract the best to a program that has won 6 games in two years, thanks in large part to the damage done to the program by the prior coach. And such a standard is silly anyway, because even the best recruiter's team won't win unless the recruiter is also a prime developer of talent.
But what will "fans" whine and complain about?
To the point, the OP's post was baseless and petty- stating that he "heard" Head Coach Ash has the personality of a piece of lint. That is a childish thing to say, especially if the OP is relying on hearsay.
I have met Coach Ash, and I found him to be very engaging. No BS and gets right to the point. I'll take a real honest person over a snake oil salesman or a gimmicky overgrown kid for a head coach any day of week.