As it stands today
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It's one of the most ridiculous things Ive ever seen.
I always looked at 2019 as the year to really compete for the hardware thinking we'd lose two guys tops and have a very, very nice veteran core. Wrong again. LOL
Well, the guys who declared have until May 30, which isn't even the beginning of Summer. As for any other potential recruits (especially the guys considering reclassifying), yes they have all summer maybe even til January ... as they do every year, same for every other program in America. This is nothing new.
Testing for feedback does not mean they are gone. So the premise is flawed. Until they hire an agent or say they are not coming back, then we don't know they are leaving. And Brad Calipari is coming back. 
Yeah, the odds keep increasing that 8 will defect.
Pro's-Vanderbilt, Diallo, Knox, Gilgeous-Alexander, Washington, Gabriel
Transfer-Greene, Killeya-Jones
Pro's-Vanderbilt, Diallo, Knox, Gilgeous-Alexander, Washington, Gabriel
Transfer-Greene, Killeya-Jones
Did I miss something
Did Green transfer yet or declare for the draft? lol
Did Green transfer yet or declare for the draft? lol
LOL that is almost against all odds. I mean did you even think before you typed? The chances all 3 of those guys actually stay in the draft is almost zero. Hell I think the chances 2 stay in the draft is less then 40 % . I believe Gabriel will most likely. Also the Green transfer thing is less and less likely each day. Hell if it isn't announced by Monday or tuesday there is almost no chance it happens as well.
NO the most likely scenario is a roster something like this - Green/Hagans/Quick/Herro/baker/Richards./JV/ EJ/KJ/PJ/ grad transfer big man .
If Cal was actually worried about all these guys staying in draft you know how bad he would be scrambling right now? LOL it would be crazy.
For the last time you have nothing to lose by entering the draft. I think Richards should have done so as well. When you will be in the NBA one day it is smart to do so. A large portion of the guys who have entered but not signed with an agent will be back. for example most of the SEC guys who have done this will be back IMO . The guard from UF , the guard from AU, Admiral for UT , Vanderbilt and so on.
If it comes to fruition it is . But it won't . This is big time basketball now. We can argue whether it is good or not but we can't argue this is what it is . If you are talented and ever likely to play in the NBA you test the waters. IMO next season UK will have 9-10 players declare for the draft but only maybe 6-7 stay in it .
Green hasn't announced anything.
And poor babies, having to wait another month to see who is on our team. Season starts in the fall, we'll be ok.
These guys don't want to hear logic. They only want their narrative filled. "the system is broken", "player X is using UK ". "Cal's lost his recruiting touch".. "Whys Cal recruiting over player X". It's funny.
As it stands RIGHT NOW, I am the richest man in this state*!
*The state I am referring to is slightly buzzed, half naked, sitting on my back deck.
*The state I am referring to is slightly buzzed, half naked, sitting on my back deck.
As it stands today Green is still on the team unless I missed an announcement but yeah it is a wacky summer.
From an 11 loss team lol. Just have to sit back and laugh.
Posted and linked it directly from the NCAA website. They have since taken that page down...
I hope y’all realize that declaring for the draft without hiring an agent means nothing. Until they say they won’t be back, assume they will be back.
Gabriel, Green, Richards, Washington, Vanderbilt, Baker, plus 4 new recruits. That’s 10 guys. The sky is not falling.
Oh, I believe you. Trust me, I took your word as gospel. I'm just extremely confused now, even more than I was before. Lol
I think they have until April 22nd to declare, and have until May 30th to pull out.
The real kicker is that thos team lost 11games and was not a title contender and still we lose several players.
Most kids that declare for the draft, stay in the draft. 95% of these guys are looking for 1 good reason to justify going pro. I mean how in the hell can a player, who can't stay healthy & averaged less than 6 points a game, even consider going pro. It's preposterous.
The pearl-clutching is reaching epic levels. I'll self-ban for a week if JV stays in the draft. PJ is probably not leaving either. Settle down already.
I did not know that. Maybe a better argument would be most UK players that declare stay in the draft.
I trust in Cal to give us an exciting product. To win 20 plus games. Do I trust him to win another championship, probably not, the rate we are going in losing players will hinder that wish.
We will know about PJ, Vanderbilt, & Gabriel by some time in late May.
Presumably Green would probably decide soon after finals week, if he returns there will likely not be any kind of announcement.
If we were to add a Grad-transfer, I would expect those to also happen by the end of May.
Any re-classifications can go into the summer (e.g. Bagley last year). So these are the only ones that may drag out into the summer.
I love the irrational hissy fits on here. It makes for good off season reading.
Yes, we should trust Cal, but he is in a dangerous situation that he has created a system that players at UK go pro no matter what now. No other team has players that either barely played or averaged “average” numbers going pro. These kids are coming to UK thinking it is a guaranteed thing that you should be a pro ASAP and to me, the big issue is that Calipari is not managing expectations of these players. As they ARRIVE on campus already thinking they will be a pro in a year. It is like they have pre determined they are leaving and already a foot out the door. No team is dealing with players with such a weak resume even declaring without an agent. Sure, it is very smart to try to go to the combine, but wiht Vanderbilt, I am 100% convinced he didn’t want to play late in the season becasue another more serious injury would keep him from competiting in the combine or working out.
The best part of Calipari’s system is that it is the most honest in a very corrupt and abusive system that tries to take advantage of these kids. But his system has worked generally becasue it also benefits UK as much as the players. However, now, this is the first year, that so many players have really treated UK as a pure stopping point to the pros no matter what leaving the program exposed.
I don’t knwo what happened, but weaker players are leaving earlier in Cals system, when we have had several players that are even better come back after similar first year performances, Harrison Twins, Jones, Ulis, WCS, Dakari, etc. So far, UK fans have been 100% right on any player that has left early...it has been a struggle or an outright failure
The best part of Calipari’s system is that it is the most honest in a very corrupt and abusive system that tries to take advantage of these kids. But his system has worked generally becasue it also benefits UK as much as the players. However, now, this is the first year, that so many players have really treated UK as a pure stopping point to the pros no matter what leaving the program exposed.
I don’t knwo what happened, but weaker players are leaving earlier in Cals system, when we have had several players that are even better come back after similar first year performances, Harrison Twins, Jones, Ulis, WCS, Dakari, etc. So far, UK fans have been 100% right on any player that has left early...it has been a struggle or an outright failure
The backcourt seems to be ok regardless... the front court has more questions that will determine just how good and how far this team might go.
Backcourt:
Ashton Hagans - widely expected to reclass
Tyler Herro
Immanuel Quickley
Jemarl Baker
Keldon Johnson
Questions: Will Quade stay/transfer and will Maxey join this class?
Frontcourt:
EJ Montgomery
Nick Richards
Questions: Will PJ, JV, and/or Wenyen remain in the draft. Does UK land a grad transfer big?
Backcourt:
Ashton Hagans - widely expected to reclass
Tyler Herro
Immanuel Quickley
Jemarl Baker
Keldon Johnson
Questions: Will Quade stay/transfer and will Maxey join this class?
Frontcourt:
EJ Montgomery
Nick Richards
Questions: Will PJ, JV, and/or Wenyen remain in the draft. Does UK land a grad transfer big?
Would be interesting to see if Quade returns and Cal gets Maxey to reclass if he runs some 4 guard lineups out there next year utilizing Keldon at the 4. Could be similar to what KU did with primarily using one big guy this year.
The fact that we potentially have that many go or transfer is ridiculous in and of itself. If this way of practice goes another inch, and it will, it will lead to a place where that second title isn't coming.
To this extent, it is a Cal problem. I would clean it up, but I know he's not going to do anything. Just have to hope things remain stable and he somehow squeaks by and gets that second ring.
Yes JV, Pj, maybe even green will return. That's not the point.
The slope is slippery. Do some of you really want to go through this every single year? Not knowing who returns at all? Constant transfers and undraftable freshmen contemplating the NBA?
Why on earth would anyone defend that?
The slope is slippery. Do some of you really want to go through this every single year? Not knowing who returns at all? Constant transfers and undraftable freshmen contemplating the NBA?
Why on earth would anyone defend that?