ARs and Aks getting real scarce

J-Dawg

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Went to Academy sports Saturday in Starkville and the fun rack was basically 3/4 empty. Pistol and riffle ammo all but gone. Still a lot of shotgun shells available, though.


The only pistol ammo available at the Madison Academy was .32 Auto and some random shells of rat shot.

Little to no buckshot.

Plenty of rifle calibers that aren't your standard AR rounds (.223, .308, 6.5creed, .300b/o)
 

NWADawg

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l, it’s still not so reliable for harvesting deer and other animals as the heavier ammo is.

I hear people say this alot. My kids have all started out deer hunting with a 223 junior size. It has been one shot, one kill for every deer and not a lot of tracking needed. Maybe it's because of the environment we hunt in with every shot being less than 100 yards. My sons did move up to a 243 when they got older but my daughter will probably always hunt with a 223.

Just for note: I am not a gun fanatic. I do like to shoot occasionally but more times than not if I am firing a gun, I am aiming at food or something is bothering me.
 

FISHDAWG

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You've confused the hell out of me now. I thought I bought an AR-15 chambered in the 5.56 nato rounds. I also that that was basically the caliber of the weapon. I know that's not exactly right as I can shoot 5.56mm or .223 out of it, but is the difference between what it's chambered in and the caliber meaningful to anybody besides gun smiths?

5.56 = milometer ... to arrive at caliber from MM just multiply x 4 = caliber .... so 5.56 x 4 = 22.24 caliber ... or .222
 
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fishwater99

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I hear people say this alot. My kids have all started out deer hunting with a 223 junior size. It has been one shot, one kill for every deer and not a lot of tracking needed. Maybe it's because of the environment we hunt in with every shot being less than 100 yards. My sons did move up to a 243 when they got older but my daughter will probably always hunt with a 223.

Just for note: I am not a gun fanatic. I do like to shoot occasionally but more times than not if I am firing a gun, I am aiming at food or something is bothering me.

The AR-10 doesn't kick like a regular .308 does, and it's lighter to carry in the woods.
 

blacklistedbully

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All you need is a 22 Cal riffle. It is cheap, the ammo is cheap and light. You can buy 1000's of rounds cheaply and carry 1000's of rounds with no problem. Most of all a 22cal can kill you if you are capable of landing very accurate shots in the few places a .22 can stop your attacker with anything close to consistency.

FIFY

If a .22 rifle is all you've got, by all means use it. But don't expect it to actually deter a determined attacker. It may chase away those who would run at the sight of any gun, but is not considered a "stopper" by any means against any others.
 

Pookieray

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Actually the .223 Rem has a higher case capacity than the 5.56 NATO round. The outside case dimensions are the same but the 5.56 NATO rounds walls are thicker which leads to a diminished overall case capacity (~.5 grains) and that smaller area in the case leads to the higher pressure inside the case walls and this increased pressure enables the 5.56 to discharge a higher grain projectile (NATO rounds are 62gr) at the velocity required by the military and have a tighter twist rate than the normal .223 in order to stabilize the heavier round. Also, the rifles designed to shoot 5.56 steel is designed to be safe with the increased pressure whereas the .223 is developed for the lower pressure rounds.

All .22x's are considered 22 calibers. The distinction is between rimfire and centerfire (.222, .222 mag, .223, 22-250, 220 swift, and a host of others). Most people understand that when someone refers to a 22 they are talking about the rimfire version being that most will refer to the centerfire version as the SAAMI cartridge chamberings.
 
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