The Huskers were off last weekend, but I still watched college football just about all day as the weather wasn't great. I usually watch as many games as I can so this isn't just an one day observation. When watching the top teams it looks to me as if their players have more size and muscle than the Huskers. Look at Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State players. Being out West I watch a lot of Pac 12 teams too. Oregon and Washington's players look bigger. It looks to me as if the Huskers players are more in the size of WSU Cougar players. Where Leech as to scramble to get players to Pullman. Is this true? Or am I just seeing things?
Are the Husker players big enough?
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No. Our interior OL is undersized. Our receivers are undersized. Our Middle backers are undersized. These problems are really only fixed through recruiting which hasnt been great thus far.
You lost me at recruiting hasn't been great. Go back and look at this freshman class most of whom are redshirting. I think there are going to be some absolute studs come out of that class starting with Nelson and Benhart. Then add in the other linebackers and O linemen we recruited. We need to add a big time big WR for sure. A big time feature RB would be nice with that 220 kind of size. Our guards, left tackle and upper classmen linebackers are undersized as well.
Yes on D, but not athletic enough. We have a 320 lb NT with a 100lb gut. Our OL is small, weak, and non athletic (except Jurgens, who is small and weak). Farniok would be our only decent OL only if he played guard.
The starting DT's on Ohio State are less than 300lb's. The ends including Chase Young are less than 275 pounds.
Both lines were smaller (at least a year ago). Riley recruited smaller offensive lineman and many of the DLine players were recruited under a 4-3. It isn't rocket science. Look at the lineman being recruited now as well as those redshirting this year. There is plenty of size coming down the pipeline.
If you strictly look at weight, you won't see the problem. Many of our linemen are carrying bad weight. They are lucky we don't wear the old mid-riff jerseys.
That was Nebraksa in the 90s , Strength with Speed and athleticism. Warren Sapp was an outlier player with a 100lb gut that could still be athletic and could run.
Isn't War--Daddy-Up supposed to fix this issue. We do have some really big freshman lineman in the pipeline though!
Wisconsin Defense Def line - 296-295-279..... Nebraska - 320-325-315
LBs Wisconsin 235-223-225-230 ..... Nebraska - 250-245-245-220
our defensive front 7 is bigger than Wisconsin's in 6 of the 7 positions by quite a margin
their ILBs are 225
what a bunch of nonsense
LBs Wisconsin 235-223-225-230 ..... Nebraska - 250-245-245-220
our defensive front 7 is bigger than Wisconsin's in 6 of the 7 positions by quite a margin
their ILBs are 225
what a bunch of nonsense
Our true Freshman scholarship OL:
- Bryce Benhart 6'9" 295 **** 6.0
- Brant Banks 6'7" 280 *** 5.7
- Michael Lynn 6'7" 280 *** 5.6
- Matt Anderson 6'7" 250 *** 5.6
- Jimmy Fritzsche 6'7" 255 *** 5.5
- Turner Corcoran 6'6" 270 **** 6.0
- Alex Conn 6'6" 275 *** 5.6
Iowa offensive line -- 320-305-270-282-315
Nebraska ..................300-310-285-300-335
we are bigger at 4 of the 5 positions
again - this is nonsense
Nebraska ..................300-310-285-300-335
we are bigger at 4 of the 5 positions
again - this is nonsense
Yet both of those teams do look bigger. Maybe they carry more muscle mass? Surprising stat that we are bigger on paper than both Wisconsin and Iowa. Thanks for sharing!
The only problem with those numbers is that they aren't accurate according to one former player/insider. Farniok is bigger than listed and it's slowing him down. Our guards are smaller than listed and not quick enough. IMO, from the eyeball Jaimes isn't 300 either..
That was Nebraska in the 90s ...Strength with Speed and athleticism (and pharmaceuticals.
FYP
He's got really good feet but he's gotten pushed around some this year in part due to his size and a leg injury. IF he were 30 lbs heavier, it would help him. He'll need to get bigger to play in the NFL.
You were selling Iowa's OL a tad short but the point still stands.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog" applies to this thread. Nebraska has not been tough enough for several years now.
Yes, we are not physical and do not play physical. Minnesota pushed us around like rag dolls all game long. We are a finesse football team and that will not work in the BIG. Hopefully SF sees this and fast.
Two points. Listed weights are not necessarily actual weights. According to Dr. Rob Zatechka those weights are not accurate. Wilson, Hixson, and are all smaller than listed while Farniok is heavier. IMO Jaimes is lighter than listed too. Point 2, Iowa has it's own O line struggles this year.
So if Farniok simply switched to guard, he would magically jump from arguably being the worst player on the offensive line to being its best player? And you know this how, exactly?
I disagree, Farniok would be, but only if he played gurad. Otherwise we don't really have a good lineman, best of below average doesn't matter.
Larry Johnson, our DL coach doesn't recruit those 320lb run stoppers. He wants athletic lineman who can run to the ball and have the ability to play more than one position in the front 4. Our D line recruits often come in weighing 265-280lbs. A year or two under our strength and conditioning program they will add the additional 20-25 lbs along with added strength and quickness. We are fortunate in that we have the depth to allow these players to develop and not have to play them before they are ready. The Bosas are the only 2 players I can remember recently that played significant minutes as a freshmen, but they were used as part of a 8 man rotation.
Recruiting hasn't been bad. Player development and S&C have been horrible. Especially the 3 years under MR. Basically Frost is working with a whole team of True Sophomores.
Overall, size does not seem to be the issue to me. It is painfully evident that we do not have the horses right now to compete at an above-average level. All of the players that are dinged up were the ones covering up the deficiencies. We went a whole calendar year winning ONE game from October 2017 to October 2018. Scott Frost started off his Husker tenure 0-6. Like any construction worker knows in building a house, things don't happen with the wave of a magic wand like the interior decorator thinks they will happen. A good amount of the players on the roster are still in a habit of losing, and those habits reared their head, notably against Minnesota.
I still believe Frost is the right coach for this program. But he still has a massive hole to dig Nebraska football out of. You don't think he knows we're struggling? Of course he does. Whimsically speaking, I'd really love to have a beer with Bill Moos after work today if I could. He is proving to be the truth serum we all dismissed and scoffed at for his six-win statement during Big Ten media days.
Getting 2 wins out of the next 5 games is sadly a lot to ask of this team. And I don't think we will want to go into Iowa week with only 5 wins. All that said, it is doable. Here's to (gulp) making a bowl game!
I still believe Frost is the right coach for this program. But he still has a massive hole to dig Nebraska football out of. You don't think he knows we're struggling? Of course he does. Whimsically speaking, I'd really love to have a beer with Bill Moos after work today if I could. He is proving to be the truth serum we all dismissed and scoffed at for his six-win statement during Big Ten media days.
Getting 2 wins out of the next 5 games is sadly a lot to ask of this team. And I don't think we will want to go into Iowa week with only 5 wins. All that said, it is doable. Here's to (gulp) making a bowl game!
Which is exactly why Frost needs to part ways with Walters, Austin, Verduzco, and Ruud at a minimum. Thats on coaching. Enough pointing fingers for Scott. This is his team and his culture and he said himself we would be competing in year 2.
And, on the coaching staff. Someone look at the cheerleaders this weekend, they could also be undersized.
Technically we are. We are still in the running for the West. Long shot but in it. He also said he didn't know if we could win the West in year 2.